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SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Wrath of the Bitch King posted:

Smoke = right
Broil = wrong
Boil = kill yourself

I like you.

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SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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ShredsYouSay posted:

Remastered Wing Commander? Why? It would be like producing a 4k print of troll 2. Or a monastically excellent calligraphic version of William Rees McGonagall's poems.

Real Edit: Also I'm pretty sure his middle name wasn't topaz. Though I could be wrong.

Hey, a goon just released a remastering of Manos, so I guess it's not unheard of.

As a reminder to anyone that got their refund from Twin Bros, Dear Leader wants to have a chat with you: https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/662679123387654145

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Meta-Mollusk posted:

Wait, really? That's something I actually want to see.

You can get it now on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Manos-The-Han...ASIN=B012BD3RNU

Here's the thread where it all began: tHerE iS NO waY OUt of hERe. IT'lL bE DArk sooN. There IS nO waY oUt oF here

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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SyRauk posted:

Just checked and it was there. I got confused by the whole PayPal stuff they kept telling me in the e-mail. Thanks!

So who's the refund from? :munch:

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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If it weren't for the terrible blocking these would be great avatars (Sandi could make a good redtext)

Yes I'm talking to you, Seraph.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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G0RF posted:

What is, to me, really interesting is that Sandi-- marketing and business genius Sandi-- seems to believe they'll have up to half a million new backers in the next 6 months. Either she is lying thru her teeth (always possible with her) or she is deluded in the extreme. That is an insanely bullish projection and doesn't seem grounded in trend data. A marketing professional worth their weight usually avoids making conspicuously aggressive revenue projections -- even if they have reason to hope for a breakaway success-- as it is always better for your surprises to be upside, not downside. One has others applauding your genius, the other has you apologizing for your myopia.

The strategy is probably to keep anyone on the fence from bailing by convincing them that there will be more than enough new-blood to make up for those that are fleeing.

LastCaress posted:

Wouldn't it be normal for people to spend less just before a big sale?

I think someone said that it's quicker to buy with store credit. So the whales:

1) buy ships before the sale
2) return them for store credit
3) use the credit during the sale to quickly get "limited" ships.

SirPhoebos fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Nov 16, 2015

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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ShredsYouSay posted:

Does anyone still like the original Deus Ex? :corsair:

I do (been forever since I played it).

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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A Neurotic Jew posted:

wrt to the escape pod question: Chris says the repercussion of not using an escape pod is that you "will lose a life", like it's an arcade game. What does losing a life mean in an MMO?

lmao, Chris-R wants this to have permadeath?!? Does he have any clue-

Beet Wagon posted:

A long time ago they wrote up an insane and confusing thing about how death is going to "work" in Star Citizen. Something about you die but there's a chance you can be revived with some negative side effects but if you can't then your 'next of kin' inherits all your poo poo and you play as that guy or something. I'd wager that's what he's referring to.

Oh, so it's not permadeath at all, just a convoluted re-spawn mechanic. :rolleyes:

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Great, this thread has found a new way to go to poo poo :sigh:

..so what's everyone's favorite Anime?

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Xaerael posted:

Yes, manufactured, here, have a pic...



How did we start talking about Skeksis again?

:gary: mmmmMMMMMMMmmmm

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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EDIT: ^^Screw that. Others here have been getting much larger refunds for purchases made at the very start. These jerks don't deserve the time of day; go right to your bank and start the chargeback process. You'll probably see your money much sooner^^^

D_Smart posted:

As I posted a few weeks back, my sources tell me that it probably will, if Chris has his way. This despite the fact that none of it is "production" ready. If they DO release "something", two things to remember related to the quality:

social/planetside module
buggies in a hangar

The problem they're going to be faced with, is going to be the exodus of key people after the holidays die down. Just wait.

When you say that none of it's production ready, how bad do you mean? Like memory-leaking and melting your harddrive bad?

SirPhoebos fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Nov 17, 2015

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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I have no problem with ketchup itself.

But when you put it on a hot dog? You could say you're a kiddie diddler and you wouldn't disgust me more! :colbert:

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Grats to Bootcha, you're free at last!

Tomorrow is going to be frickin magical, I can't wait. :magical:

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Jst0rm posted:

why would anyone invest in a game that has already sold 1 million copies? Like how many space games on the pc only sell upwards of 1 million copies? Nobody with a brain will invest in such a thing.

Even well run companies can make bad decisions :shrug:

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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It's also just as likely that Chris is being willfully delusional (or just plain ol' delusional) and is just elated he no longer has to share any of the profits with a nasty goon naysayer.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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TheShazbot posted:

as someone who is also depressed, job-related stress does indeed do this to someone.

Oh well, he can :frogout: any time he wants

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't his job prior to joining CIG was a teacher on the other side of the country?

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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:lesnick: reminds me of Chris-chan in a lot of ways.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Well today's going to be interesting. :munch:

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Loiosh posted:

That'll be entertaining in AC 2. They haven't clarified if they have the ships 'locked' to the player. I saw during the Bugsmashers episode that there's a security computer listed in the pipe debug* which would indicate that they made have some form of hacking computer control planned for the future. For AC 2, who knows what'll make it.

* Pipe system is the internal name for the different ship resources: CPU usage, power, heat, electromagnetism signature

Oh god, now I'm thinking that someone at CIG loved the PipeDream minigame from Bioshock and wants that to be how hacking works in this not-game. :suicide:

SirPhoebos fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Nov 19, 2015

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

Oh hey they're late again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=givJPBMt7e0

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Daztek posted:

why are they on a boat :(

Waitwaitwait, are you serious?

They're literally fleeing the country :supaburn:

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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MrDorf posted:

Someone ask if you're able to skip cutscenes in SQ42.

Also anyone else find it ironic that just as Chris-R makes plain his intention to get back into making movies the cinematography of this liveshoot appears to be done by Abraham Zapruder?

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Seriously, someone needs to ask if cutscenes are skippable?

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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ChairmanMauzer posted:

So after a month and half of waiting SC offered me less than a third of what I paid as a refund.

The bank and Visa were no help on the chargeback front as they deny anything older than 60 days. Consumer protection my rear end.

Sounds like the only way I'm getting money back is a lawsuit which would undoubtedly cost more than I spent.

Did you ask to escalate with the bank or Visa?

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Kakarot posted:

Seems that people are really mad about this new ship:

The Avenger Warlock was built towards a single design philosophy: stop ships, don’t destroy them. Probably the closest to a non-lethal fighter, the Warlock is outfitted with a Behring REP-8 EMP Generator, capable of emitting a powerful electromagnetic wave to disable any electronics unfortunate enough to be within the blast radius.

If this game actually came-out this would probably be the go-to griefing ship.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Peter Gabriel, have you not been banned yet? Ask if the cutscenes in SQ42 are skippable.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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ChairmanMauzer posted:

Both. Although trying to talk to visa only sends me back to the bank.

I guess the only route left is trying to sell to redditors (pretty much everything is LTI). I imagine I should probably wait till after the anniversary sale?

Sorry to hear that :(.

All I can suggest is contact Derek Smart.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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happyhippy posted:

Give 100-250 to the long term suckers highest backers so encourage them to give more money.
250 to streamers to show it off for free and encourage people who haven't access to give more.
499 given to sock accounts to fake post how great it is.
1 given to Derek.

If 2.0 really is getting released into the wild, then we should be seeing screenshots and webms soon enough.

I for one can't wait :allears:

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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I just realized something: Like the 2.0 limited release, could Chris-R be straight up lying about the availability of $30 dollar packages as a way to hide the fact that no new players are buying in from the whales?

EDIT: More likely that Whales are buying them for sweet referral points, I'll admit.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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robot roll call posted:

I was never personally involved with SC...until now. My friend just asked if I wanted in on his referral code for one of the 30 dollar packages :yarg:

I'm curious how you responded.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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I remember following Master of Orion 3 when it was in development and when it finally came out, I somehow convinced myself that it was the best thing ever for a few weeks before I finally realized it was poo poo.

Looking back, I'm pretty grateful that Kickstarter didn't exist when I was in college.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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RuckusRouser posted:

Derek, do you know of any reason why Sandi is suddenly pushing the "I am married to Chris" thing in such a hardcore manner? Between the anniversary flowers tweet and suddenly wearing a ring that she hasn't ever worn in public appearances, including her CitCon reveal speech, it seems REALLY odd.

From what I understand, they tried to cover up the fact they were married for reasons we can only speculate, Derek called them out at some point, and her response has been ":byodame: WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT IVE NEVER TRIED TO COVER UP MY MARITAL STATUS!"

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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So did they ever say if SQ42 cutscenes were skippable?

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Lord_NeckBeard posted:

I bet the reason that Lord Smart is going all "it ain't coming out" is that they took out a bunch of loans and have actually spent around $90 million, but without much of anything to show, and a fuckton of debt. If they have loans to pay off, then the inevitable slide in revenue = bankruptcy. They CAN'T just reduce staff as they need to if they also have a mortgage to pay off.

It's been speculated that the reason people have been getting refunds from multiple sources is because they need to maintain certain account minimums as a condition of their loans.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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That Developer Gulag really bothers me-who could look at that and say "Yep! This is an appropriate work environment for a software! :downs:" I mean they couldn't even be assed to remove the steel bars; are they that worried about crime in the mean city of Santa Monica?

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Hav posted:

https://www.techinasia.com/health-benefits-standing-desks-separating-hype-reality/

"And it turns out, prolonged standing causes health problems too. Plenty of studies show that it increases the risk of carotid atherosclerosis (a disease of the arteries) ninefold due to the extra load on your circulatory system. You’re more likely to get varicose veins, which cause all sorts of complications."

It's not like the poors weren't doing standing jobs forever...

The longer you live, the sooner you die. More at 11.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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geekcream posted:

I'm sorry. I wasted thousands of dollars? I wasn't aware. I'm glad you are a proud Black Knight. Brave fellow. Ready to fight this fake game! Keep up the good work.

geekcream posted:

Stop the thread people. Someone that doesn't agree with us!

You responded to the same post two different times. But no it's obviously everyone else that's fuming mad :rolleyes:

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Xaerael posted:

I really doubt the assets are even worth picking up at this stage. Spaceship design is a dime a dozen, and the engine is super-garbo-useless. I suspect that at this stage, it would be quicker for someone to just start from scratch, and not have the bad smell of this rotting corpse following you around.

I was going to chime in to say this-Star Citizen as a brand doesn't have any worth beside "made by the guy who made Wing Commander and was kicked off of Freelancer". And if any buyout gets rid of Chris-R (which is the only way this project sees completion) then you lose that, and you might as well make a brand new space game.

EDIT: Has there been the typical vitriol-filled response to the PC Gamer article yet?

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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How likely is it that the 10-hours of cutscenes for SQ42 ultimately sees the light of day as a Scy-Fy Channel mini-series?

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SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

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Omi-Polari posted:

Air intakes ... in space.

I get irrationally angry by those ship designs. With E:D the ships are at least streamlined or utilitarian, and they're easy on the eyes. SC's ships look ... overengineered. They don't know what they want them to be. And they're going for an airplane look except actual airplanes do not look like that.

This is sci-fi. You don't need spaceships to look like airplanes when they fly down onto planets -- you can give them shields or some other gizmo that counteracts aerodynamic effects. Whatever, make it up. It goes back to that stubborn focus in which everything has to be needlessly complicated to be "realistic" but without any of it making sense within its own setting. When did they decide that the ship needed air intakes and the other ones didn't?

Goddammit I'm so angry. What I'm saying is that I get irrationally angry about internet spaceships.

Edit: I'm loving serious. But it's better to read this in a Plinkett voice.

:gary: "It's like Poetry. It rhymes."

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