Sappo569 posted:

Re: Customer Support being backlogged

Remember that time CIG admitted they had hundreds of tickets to catch up on, and suddenly 'poof' they just purged the entire database?

Daztek posted:

Wonder when they'll notice all they say is 'Just wait until <event/date/patch x> where they'll show <y> and Derek Smart will <z>' on repeat lol

Tau Wedel posted:

I wrote a thing:

Two Weeks

ewe2 posted:

HALP SMUG OVERLOAD

Mirificus posted:

Look! A Horse! posted:

ummm lets talk about star citizen PLZ???

from a quote about the recent NMS foundation update:


ummm....

Various Meat Products posted:

so I probably shouldn't buy any star citizens at this point, right?

Various Meat Products posted:

Nah, FYAD is mostly into Shroud of the Avatar now.

Charles Get-Out posted:

It's always lowkey surprising to be confronted by buying addictions worse than the ones presenting in the Steam thread. I know Citizens and I value virtual spaceships differently, but I don't understand why putting yourself at financial risk for the sake of the Vision is met with congratulatory pats on the back.

Breetai posted:

It's the end-point of Nerd Culture in general. When you define yourself as a person through the media you consume it's sad enough. But when you gather in communities dedicated to doing so then you reach a point where ideological purity is linearly tied to said consumption. Then you start getting people having to post about how much they love/have spent on the project as a disclaimer every time they posts any doubts/impure thoughts about the progress of the project, and the echo chamber grows more shrill.

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

I quite liked that $136 million thread on reddit where some idiot unironically said "woah look out GTAV here we come" and didn't hear the Jaws music fading in

D1E posted:

It's actually possible they might bring this game back from the dead.

MeLKoR posted:

D1E posted:

I imagine it's probably very difficult to do their jobs with Derek Smart PMing them every five minutes asking them to probate everyone for making fun of him.

XK posted:

The last anime I watched was Voltron back in 1984. It was pretty cool.

Everything I've seen in the last 20 years makes anime look all hosed up.

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

I still don't think Chris is taking advantage of people. I think he's deluded himself more than anyone else, but the same sheer force of will that enables him to even conceive of this bullshit is also what blinds him to the fact that he's hopelessly outclassed and incompetent.

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

Which is more depressing; that $130M have been scammed out of hopeful backers by a massive scheme, or that $130M of other people's money was wasted by a man who conned himself?

CrazyTolradi posted:

The 4chan rejects drove out MoMA and Lazrin

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

See? Posts like this are great. They're all coherent arguments that make valid points.

I don't think of it as an "at least they tried" situation. I think of it as the kind of reality distortion field bullshit that people saw around Steve Jobs, a kind of group delusion that enables Chris to even think this stuff is possible. It's the same thing he did with Wing Commander and Freelancer. I don't think he's actively scamming people, I think he sees the millions pouring in as validation of what he's doing. Same with the vacations and lavish facilities. I suspect he sees all of that as earned rewards for his success, again defined by the funding counter.

Look at the behind the scenes video. Assuming that isn't a hoax, it shows Chris actually believing they could finish the SQ42 demo in a day when months later nothing has been shown. That is not the perspective of someone who is in touch with reality. It's the same thing we've seen for years. Nobody in their right mind releases the letter Chris did last year after The Escapist article.

I believe the scam, the willfull intent to extract as much money as possible, lies with Sandi and Ortwin. Ortwin's actions with the Hollywood accounting and multiple shell corporations suggests a massive effort to shield as much money as possible from reprisal, and Sandi is in charge of a predatory marketing campaign that has demonstrated a callous disregard for ethical behavior. Just read the correspondence she sent to me to get a sense of what kind of person she is.

Does it matter? Not really. Regardless of what happens Chris will take the blame, and I would be shocked if Ortwin didn't have contingencies in place to ensure he's untouched. Sandi probably thinks she has an out but I haven't seen anything to suggest she's even remotely competent enough to pull it off. Even if Chris isn't intentionally scamming people he's guilty of gross incompetence and mismanagement. He deserves whatever comes to him.

CIG as a company is running a scam, and it doesn't take much to see it. Every dollar spent increases scope which justifies increasing schedule. They're selling ships that they don't have to deliver even if the game is released. The only concrete information they've provided is about features they've cut. They habitually fail to meet the expectations that they only set. They constantly pressure backers to spend more while failing to meet their existing obligations. And people continue to fall for it.

XK posted:

The giant wall of character creation

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

"Maliciously incompetent" is a perfect way to put it. I think in the end it doesn't matter; we all agree they deserve whatever is coming to them and regardless of who is actively scamming versus knowingly benefiting from the scam they're all responsible for it.

Fat Shat Sings posted:

The computer I'm on sucks too much to open that massive funding document where people obsessively track it by day but I think they pulled in around $7,000,000 for the 9 day sale. Roughly 1.5 - 1.75 months of bills at the current leaked burn rate. And yes they do a Holiday sale every year. November and December usually pull in $5,000,000+ each but they pulled out all the stops for this November by re-releasing the "never to be sold again" ships and doing "new cash discounts" on everything.

The Titanic posted:

I really love this guy.

1: They can name a version anything they want. Tomorrow they could call it 3.0. There! You got 3.0!

2: You can't. They showed you a cinematic of this. Nobody is doing this in the game.

3: First it was already in the game. Then it was canceled. Now it's in the game again. Uh, sure, maybe you and Chris need to sit down and figure out how this is going to go next time. Plus, it's a loving arena shooter module in an engine designed from ground up to be a loving arena shooter. CryEngine came with Star Marine in it from the start. CIG just broke it.

4: You're 5 years in, and 130 loving MILLION DOLLARS later, and you have <1% of a game. At what point do you think "Hmmm... something seems amiss with this!" Because that's what we're all really waiting for. Is for you guys to come to the explosive realization you're getting screwed for Porsche payments, exotic vacations, and maybe a CGI movie.

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Look, Lethality, get over it. Not even Derek Smart gives a poo poo about LoD!

D1E posted:

LOL.

I don't give a gently caress about LoD.

I just think someone has to call out Derek on his endless bullshit. I honestly thought he was growing as a person, until his little bitch fight with FAU caused me to reevaluate. He's the exact same rear end in a top hat he was 15 years ago, telling his customers they're too stupid to play his games and blaming German-language video drivers on bugs he can't fix. It's rich of him to call out SC for being a piece of poo poo - he would definitely know poo poo space video games.

He'll also go to any length to make himself look like the best source of SC news, when his blogs are largely just recycled from other user's posts from this thread. I trust TheAgent a million times more than Derek.

He will also never admit to a single mistake. Doxxing or not, posting personal information about a forum user (ANY user) as a MODERATOR was definitely a no-no. But he's too weak and childish to ever do the mature and responsible thing and just say he screwed up and it won't happen again. Instead it's a giant conspiracy against him by SC backers. He's Saint Derek.

Honestly, I think it's pathetic that he has a fan club of enablers who constantly tell him how great he is and beg him to go Full Warlord on demonstrably mentally ill Shitizens.

In short, gently caress Derek.

And before anyone reports this as off-topic, Derek has chosen to be fully associated with everything Star Citizen. Beyond that, just look at the subforum's name.

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

To be honest - and I'm sorry about this Mirificus - I can just barely skim through the reddit poo poo, even the crap I post here myself. It's just so very painful

cool new Polack jokes posted:

Lol, just lol if you don't read Stimpire.txt the whole way through every time it's posted

Milky Moor posted:

now that derek's not a mod, moma's bringing out the teeth. they're broken baby teeth but the thought is still there.

TheAgent posted:

its good if you like homoerotic anime

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Catching up, has MOMA proved this yet or is just making wild claims?

D1E posted:

Derek Smart is so obsessed with Star Citizen he basically talks to himself about it on his own forums:

Milky Moor posted:

my god regression testing

still laughing over it

D_Smart posted:

It's a GIF made from a series of individual Photoshopped images. If they were serious, they would have posted a video instead.

And CIG's own silence on the matter, is the only answer you need as to whether or not SM is already enabled for play in 2.6

thatguy posted:

MoMA if you just said that the game isn't very good right now you could go after Derek and how wrong he's been over the past few days. Most of Derek's arguments have to do with him having SUPER SECRET SPEC-OP DOUBLE AGENT MOLES and if you could just discredit that you could finally be on the other end of a nice meltdown for once. People like Agent and AP don't mind being wrong but for Derek it results in a catastrophic disaster (hilarity) every time.

Beet Wagon posted:

The only issue with doing a toxx over Star Marine is I don't really see anyone in here who can prove definitively one way or another that it's straight up not in the current build.

Unless anyone wants to lose their super secret evocati status by livestreaming it so they can get Uncle Derek banned lol.

Kakarot posted:

Rest of the year eh....yea thats a huge sacrifice