- xanif
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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I love this thread.
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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Yea...not supporting what d. smart did but I was under the impression it took more to doxx than just type someone's handle into google and read through the results on the first page.
Also, if you're going to talk poo poo on twitter, have different usernames for your twitter account and dating profile.
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- Nov 3, 2010
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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gently caress's sake guys. It is not okay to post a child's actual personal information online to incite bullying. No, it does not matter if they started it. No, it does not matter if the dumb little bastard made it easily available. Whether or not they are crippled is irrelevant. They are a child. Are you a child?
He's not a child. Since when is 19 a child?
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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That's him in the wheelchair
Who?
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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Him in the wheelchair?
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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Until he posts a picture that entices DS to attack him at which point he deletes all content on the site.
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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Pages late, but every time someone complains about doxxing I have to wonder if no one remembers the phone book. You know, that thing they used to leave on your doorstep that had everyone's name, address, and phone number?
Complaining that someone found your real name because you tied it to a very visible social media platform (Facebook, Twitter, etc) to me is pretty much the same as complaining that someone looked you up in the white pages and found your phone number.
I don't think what he did was doxxing I just think it was a really weird way to go about doing it. Posting it in this thread to be like "Look how mean this guy was!" felt more like gossiping and just trying to make drama rather than trying to approach the person for resolution.
Then again he has managed to make other people (and I use that term loosely) backpedal to gently caress and back (deleting their account or their whole post history) just by saying their name in a vaguely Rumpelstiltskin like fashion so can't really argue with results.
Seriously, what self respecting adult posts a "come at me bro" comment only to delete everything he's ever said a couple days later.
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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They're probably going to release 2.0 when Horizons releases for Elite Dangerous cause that's totally a thing they'd do cause their mad ED exists and is good.
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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Seriously why do people have Popsicle sticks under there avatars?
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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Well, I lost access to my old account from 2007, so I thought I'd make myself a brand spanking new one to contribute to this discussion. I even bought premium so I could be privy to all the SuperSecretTM stuff going on.
Turns out that was a minor mistake, frikkin loled hard when I realised
You need a Platinum Upgrade to view this link.
As my first post in this thread, I'll try and keep it from being a complete shitpost.
Anyway, I'll give you some context of me. I'm about $60 deep in Star Citizen, backed in 2012 at the funding launch, and installed the game once every six months or so just to see what progress there is. There has been significantly less than I had hoped tbh. I saw this thread on Reddit where I am a semi active user. Anyway, while I appreciate some of the arguments for the game never being released, it does feel like one mighty echochamber in here.
My take on some of controversies surrounding SC.
On crazy obsessive/harassing WhiteKnight StarCitizens
Well, you have a community of 700K where the occasional individual is in for $20k. Yes they are dicks and I don't condone any of their actions. However, they do not reflect the wider starcitizen community. Personally I think they are insane for spending that much money on a videogame. Whatever, they are a few bad apples. I feel sorry for Derek that he has to put up with their harassment.
On never ending delays and how the project is being run.
This is one of my biggest frustrations with SC. The actual content being released (ArenaCommander/HangarModule/Planetside) is only a small part of what is needed for the finished game, and yet so much resources seem to be poured into them. Whole critical parts of the game, such as the databasing needed for persistence etc. not currently in development. While this is annoying, I don't think it's necessarily an indication of a project that's about to fail. Just poor project management. Also, I know very little about large scale game development and where developers spend most of their time. I agree that the project has been poorly managed in the past, as is shown by our current lack of a game. That said, just because there have been poor management decisions in the past, does not mean that the current development strategy is stupid, or that CIG are unable to produce a completed game. The current drive to make AC2.0 a platform to build out the rest of the PU game mechanics seems sensible enough to me.
Problems in one studio mean problems in all studios
There are currently four SC studios so far as I can tell. Santa Monica, Austin, ManchesterUK, and FrankfurtDE. Austin seems to be downsizing. Manchester and Frankfurt seem to be growing. For some reason this is painted here as a reason for CIG being in trouble. Some people have complained of toxic work environments, but they seem to be fairly limited to Austin, and maybe a bit in Santa Monica. Manchester and Frankfurt seem to be chugging along fine, and really helping to get the game moved along. The imminent release of AC2.0 is probably their doing. The fact that they are growing, I think, is a good sign for the project as a whole.
Money problems leading to the project shutting down
There is no evidence of this at all. Star Citizen raised $4.2m last month. Even if this was a one off, it still shows that the project has a huge number of people willing to spend money on it. The project has 700K preorders on the books, and a very generous community. If they need extra credit (and I don't hear any evidence beyond unfounded rumour) then I have zero doubt that investors will be lining up to get a piece of the action. Even before crowdfunding started, CR only needed to raise about $4m to get his investors interested and secure about $15m dollars in funding. I bet they'd be interested now.
Secondly, there is the unfounded number of $3m dollars being spent per month. Derek claimed with AbsoluteCertaintyTM that the company only had $8m dollars left and would be shutting down imminently. This is all BS. At the time of the claim, they had raised about $90m I think. (90-8)/3=27months of funding. Which is 2.33 (recurring of course) years of funding at that expenditure rate. Considering we're three years in now and there is now way whatsoever that CIG were spending that amount for even the first year and a half of operation, there is a very good chance that CIG still has a reasonable amount tucked away.
On Sandi
This is the biggest joke of the lot. There is a lot of 'evidence' thrown about on topics that really don't matter. Who gives a gently caress if she is married to CR, or is a jerk, or doesn't have a marketing degree. She oversaw a marketing strategy that has raised $94m which is all that matters. That was her job. If she hadn't done that then we would be right to start the criticisms, but that's clearly not the the case. Cries of nepotism are stupid. She wasn't appointed when the company was a multimillion dollar project, she was appointed at inception. If the director of marketing was just a random person (with a marketing degree) who raised $93m, and then they were fired and replaced with Sandi, then shout nepotism all you like. He using company property and time for personal projects is an unknown for me. They don't seem too credible and seem to be clutching at straws.
SC subreddit imgur posts getting bombed
The idea that this was a 'friendly fire' incident doesn't really hold any water IMO. The fact that every image without exception got taken down, leads me to believe that it was a deliberate attack. There were plenty of really obscure images taken down that were posted years ago that weren't originally posted in this thread. I say originally because after the news broke, some then started posting more links here to images to try and get them taken down by proxy. I could be wrong on this one, but I really don't think so.
Derek's claims in general, and refunds
Some of them have turned out to be true - Austin downsizing, a few perople quitting, maybe a couple of other things, but a lot of his claims seem to be unfounded beyond his mysterious sources. I dunno, maybe he is telling the truth, but he really doesn't come across as the most trustworthy/stable of guys. If all this drama had been raised by a more reputable character, I might have considered refunding, as it stands, Derek claiming something doesn't really worry me and I'll be keeping my game package till something a bit more concrete comes up.
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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Man that's harsh. So you think a Redditor attacked subreddit imgur posts out of pure malice, instead of just stupidity? You're too cynical for me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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It's going to be some prime gloating when this shitshow comes crashing down.
Make it happen Derek.
Yea, but it will still be our "fault."
CIG mishandling money, terrible hardware decisions, backwards progress, micro-management may all come to light but it will still be Derek Smart and his goon lackeys that are responsible for ruining the dream.
"CR just needed some more money and time! I know they were 3 years behind on development but you can't rush perfection! YOU ALL DID THIS!"
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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Can someone link exactly where it was learned, that he legit molested an 11-year old again, so he gets even more desperate and keeps funding Lowtax's move to cloud with another account?
Actually, the joke of it is that he got permabanned from RSI forums a long while back and has, by now, rolled around everywhere on the internet, to try and find likeminded retarded people to support him in his crusade against them. Which is probably why his rejection from goons, folks who by now regularly mock CIG, hurts his retard feelings even moreso.
I believe the original post was in yospos and I'm not going to find it but the text was this:
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Filtered due to identity protection but
Sexual Conduct-2nd: Actor >17 Two Or More Acts On Child < 13 Victim Sex/Age Female, 11 Years Relationship to Victim Non-Stranger Probation: 10 Year(s)
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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They have a bunch of shoes that are all different sizes and the one that is biggest is the one that is different?
Or did I miss something?
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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I'm functionally retarded.
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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Okay, so I've been doing grown up stuff and missed a bunch of poo poo.
Why do some nerdos have like "word" gang tags now? I must know this because I take pride in collecting stupid poo poo next to my posts. Tia.
http://forums.somethingawful.com/announcement.php?forumid=1
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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I await the followup to the Vox Day interview: DS speaks to the KKK about SC
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Nov 7, 2015 18:43
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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You guys are killing me here. So I'm supposed to ask for permission now to go have a chat with someone?
Do whatever your want. You're an adult and can make your own mistakes. Nothing is preventing you from associating with neonazis.
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Nov 7, 2015 19:08
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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Have I missed anything in the last 200 or so pages?
DS got interviewed by a nazi. Seraph is still insane. Post anime.
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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Games with large complex ship designs tend to take months to make a delivery. A battleship in World of Warships (just as an example) takes around six months on average, with the more complex ones (Tipitz) taking up to a year.
The issue isn't that it is taking 9 months.
The issue is that they are doing multiple iterations for ships and they're all taking 12 months.
And they're not flyable yet so the cutlass is a prime example of a ship they made pretty and then when put in engine can't fly for poo poo.
Got only knows what the freelancer is going to do (if the game comes out at all).
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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Also, this made me laugh, from the RTV: [Clarify earlier statements about 2.0?] Stream will be the same, done from the Santa Monica office. Part of the move involves shutting down all server-side stuff, moving static IP, multi-day IP process. They don't want to do that till 2.0 ships. Means they have folks upstairs that want to be on their PC's for the next couple of days.
Our company did an office move about a year ago. They tried to compress it all (including a server room) into a weekend. Though the hardware made it all and was booted on Sunday, the IP issues took roughly a week to sort out. A week where we had customers who could not login, update quotas, delete stored data, or make purchases. Boy that entirely not fun. I'm not on the IT side, so I didn't have to fix any of it, but man.
Static IPs and complex VPN setups, serious business.
I'm in operations and we pretty frequently move between datacenters for either disaster recover simulations or hardware/software upgrades. Even with tons of practice and well documented procedures something frequently goes wrong.
I never understood why Tuesday maintenance in World of Warcraft could go over their expected change window by 3 or 4 hours until I started having to do this work and we can sometimes go 8 or 9 hours overdue.
poo poo is srs bsns.
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Nov 13, 2015 21:25
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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Finally got my refund/account closure email. They're giving me my money back in 3 different ways: paypal, amazon, and credit card reimbursement.
Which is weird as gently caress but whatever.
The amazon credit is already applied. Waiting on the other two.
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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So what is there to actually do in it?
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Nov 20, 2015 04:28
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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No missions or FPS or anything? Just "here's a multicrew ship that your friends can play with you if they get in the same game and don't crash.?"
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Nov 20, 2015 04:38
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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Yup just the absolute bare minimum to be able to have headlines saying they 'Launched 2.0'
Oh. Guess that's what I should have expected.
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Nov 20, 2015 04:40
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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Eonwe is actually one of my fake accounts.
As we all suspected.
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Nov 27, 2015 17:45
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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also today is the day after thanksgiving so no tickets came in and we played cards against humanity at work
p fun
I had tickets coming in from the UK office because they hate freedom.
It was lame.
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Nov 27, 2015 22:45
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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Having to manually control your own breathing would be stupid.
I mean, if I have to manually control my breathing then why WOULDN'T I pick sleep apnea as a negative trait to get some extra points while min/maxing my char?
Stop pigeonholing my builds.
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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Hey gently caress you dude. Now I got aware of my breathing and have to breathe consciously until I forget about it again.
Also you can see your nose.
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Nov 28, 2015 19:57
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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Can I cook salmon in a pan on a stove top or should I really use an oven? I tried it on a stove top and burnt the ever loving poo poo out of it and now all the recipes I see use an oven.
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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Mmmmmmmmm I'm going to try all of these salmon recipes. Salmon is delicious.
Hang on a sec I'll take a pic of the beef that's cooking at my house at the moment
Do it.
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Nov 29, 2015 19:24
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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How could we be so blind!?
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Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
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Wow. All of Karl's posts are in either /r/StarCitizen or /r/DerekSmart.
Dude needs a hobby.
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Oct 28, 2015 05:20
PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARP
