Tortolia posted:

My wife still thinks I am bullshitting her about the 15K spaceship package despite showing her the store page.

She asked me once why I keep reading a thread for a game that isn't out and I have no interest in playing. There really is no way to properly verbally capture the essence of SC without sounding like you had a mental break, so I just explain it as a thread with cat pictures and funny videos.

Iglocska posted:

You're loving kidding me, right?

fuctifino posted:

I'm afraid I skipped a few pages, but I know it's already been referenced.

If anyone hasn't seen EP 1: of Versebusters, Ben and Sandi's new show, you have to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz9dEVNhqrk

I thought this was satire at first, and had to double check it was the official channel.

darkarchon posted:

Nothing but hot air, that's all they're producing.

Hopper posted:

I'd rather chug that amount of extra virgine olive oil in 90 minutes over that fast food crap. Could probably make it into some sort of salad dressing so it is palatable.

fuzzknot posted:

Hmm, that's true. I heard that putting a shower cap over it would do the trick; perhaps we'll try that.

Gilganixon posted:

i did this instead of something useful which i was meant to be doing, i hope you do your best to enjoy it. i bet you can see where this is going



(just kidding, I already did it regardless of whether or not you enjoy it)

Atheist Sunglasses posted:

You guys ever had dill pickle soup? apparently it's real

Lime Tonics posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zK8TKfHAt0

go to 18:30 for the answers, or lack of.

Lesnic guy saying losing sales is a good thing...just what?

MeLKoR posted:

MeLKoR posted:

Well, well, what do we have here?


https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/46gf49/excessive_troll_accounts_posting_here/d05398o

Isn't using multiple accounts to avoid bans grounds for a global ban of all your Reddit accounts?

AP posted:

http://www.craigfairbrass.co.uk/

tooterfish posted:

CIG use Zen development actually. Developing by not developing.

Remember, the perfect product is one that only exists in your customer's head!

Sedisp posted:

Yessh Dowlphins twitter account is pretty.... well... something...







and my personal favorite,


Probably was up for hours trying to think of that one.

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Please don't shame my gun-having ways.

Rubberduke posted:

Wait a minute. There are already associations for a game that does not even really support them?

http://starcitizenaces.org/

They have a loving web page and describe themselves as capitalists, explorers and soldiers. As in all the things that are likely to be the game.
What do they do right now with those kinds of standards. There is nothing to do in the game expect flying and shooting.

And then there is a page where their ships are listed and how much money they have "pledged". How much up their own asses can some people be?

Semisponge posted:

What happened with dolvak? I've been on vacation.

MeLKoR posted:

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

The Protocols of the Elders of Goonism

I get a lot of PMs about this, so I think it might be a good idea to put this in the thread.

As you all know, we have worked on our battle plan to fight the threat from Star Citizen, which if unchecked might dissuade people from buying our game of games, Derek Smart's Line of Defense. Our current strategy focuses on a two-pronged assault of trollism and mockery. Mockery is not easily taught, but trollism is more of a craft - this might serve to increase the return on trolling for those new to the trade.

Trolling
You might be excused for believing that we focus on a of negative users on Reddit - openly or lightly veiled goons. This is in fact just a fraction of our current efforts. To understand how to troll successfully and with a high amount of toxicism-per-troll, you will first have to understand how the Citizen mind works and how to convincingly act as one.

Citizens can be easily divided into four groups, based on their professed and actual level expectations on the game.

• Low professed and low actual expectations are the type of low-level backers who don't keep up with the drama or development too much. They don't proselytize and generally hope for a cool game somewhere down the road, or have given up totally. Trolling as one of them has a very low toxicism-per-troll yield.
  
  
• Low-high Citizens are whiners who will criticize anything CIG makes whether they succeed in their efforts or not. Trolls who are perceived as such get quickly downvoted and thus have a low toxicism-per-troll yield.
  
  
• High-high Citizens are backers who take CIG's claims seriously, but also judge them by their own standards. They come in all backer levels and usually begin with high hopes for the game, with time tempered by contact with released content and perceived misconducts by CIG. They have the potential for high toxicity-per-troll by dividing the audience into detractors and supporters, but require high effort to come across as both well-informed and fair in their criticism.
  
  
• High-low Citizens are the semi-conscious shills whose priority is maintaining the narrative of successful development, whatever the evidence to the contrary. They are confident in voicing ludicrously high hopes for any promised, hinted-to or assumed features that SC might have in the future, comparing the imagined "finished" Star Citizen to their unflattering view of other actually finished games. They are simultaneously eager to defend any released content in Star Citizen through any of a number of go-to excuses: "it's alpha", "it's open development", "it's the [goons,community's,derek's] fault", "it was the plan all along", "don't be such a privileged and entitled twat" and so on. These citizens have best toxicity-per-troll return, being easily faked and requiring very low effort to maintain. We already have a number of prominent Reddit accounts shaping the debate through their unquestioning loyalty to CIG, expressed in increasingly shrill staccato.
  

A good way to get the feel of different trollisms is to create multiple accounts (use private tabs) and have them debate each other with their different stupid "beliefs". Once you've farmed a decent number of upvotes with an account you can begin to engage others by supporting their stupid position just a little bit too aggressively, or disagreeing with them just slightly louder than the others. Don't be afraid of the risk of debating other trolls, it also serves to steer the discussion shitward - fake an opinion and watch them dance

Good luck in the 'ddit commandos o9

Hav posted:

Cannot unsee.

Tank Boy Ken posted:

^^^^
And what if your gun fails to render? That's what this system is for. Don't you see the vision? Or is it obscured by crosshairs?


Now you're being silly. A Laser Rifle is using clips. It's sooo obvious!

Tippis posted:

Whathowinthewhynow?!?

How the hell do you lose track of an object just because it's at a given speed? And if it didn't, how did it suddenly realise that it had too many ships? And why does it randomly remove ships when this happen rather than something sane and sensible?

Crazy_BlackParrot posted:

I don't know man, free speech and such..
Also, how is posting articles about facts a reason for a legal battle?

The Red KHARTUUU( whatsitcalled) was sold as a 2 seater with some imaginary gameplay features added to it. This is a fact, What excuse not to use this in an article?
The whole freelancer debacle?
Le starmarine?
The buying of expensive furniture only to be obliterated by the elephant in the room?
The lack of direction/progress?


Its one thing to post articles about in house problems, but these are all valid concerns.
So yeah, I think the escapist has thrown in the towel.

Crazy_BlackParrot posted:

If this stops you then you're in the wrong line of work.

Crazy_BlackParrot posted:

Okay serious?
This is an actual dev response?

HOW? I... gently caress.

Thronde posted:

Croberts ultimate "gently caress you" to Derek: The entire game is based around 1 vending machine.

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

Three months before release Crob will find out there's no actual gameplay in there and stuff it full of QTEs

~immersion~ you see

ZenMaster posted:

10 for the Inside Informant? Anyone?

AP posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrWL14jLtlw&t=24s

Aramoro posted:

Calculating on just raw tax of someone earning $32,000 you will take home

$26,139 in the UK or
$26,768 in the US

So it's costing us about $600 for our socialist utopia. It's not that bad really. Some states will have much lower cost of living from Sales tax etc, but then we don't pay VAT on food or things like that either.

Daztek posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dng7fu4ks0o

Beet Wagon posted:

I wonder how many months it took to model 'Outlaw Codpiece #3"

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Maybe Chris was playing XCOM 2 and decided he liked the plot system of procedural generation, so the 50/50 means that planets will be made from procedurally assigned tiles of handcrafted environments?

Mr Fronts posted:

That second thing makes me laugh.


CIG needs to "design their architecture to this scope".

The Problem

They skipped the BORING stuff that those BORING tie-wearing, nine-to-five, SQUARES do, and didn't write a detailed FSD. So they have no formal scope. They are the cool, anti-establishment, special super-coders, sticking it to the man, and consoles, and publishers. So they cut out all that crap and just started coding.

Scope Vomit

Whenever CR said, "Yes, of course we'll have that in the game", that's the scope. "Yes" to this. "Yes" to that. "Yes" was the word, as it brought in money.


What was the question again?

Oh, yeah.

"If a project takes 3 years, starts out with 2 people working on it, then their work gets discarded and reworked by 4 people in year 2, discarded again and redone by 6 people in year 3, does that mean 50% of the work was done in year 3? Or did the first two years not count?


"A code is executed in different code paths. If one path is not reachable because of a bug, but contains a few more bugs, then fixing the first bug doesn't introduce 4000 new bugs." Correct. But the problem is, there are ten thousand bugs in the code that is executing. Forget the special snowflake bugs hiding behind broken logic flow.

I said "logic flow", but I was thinking "goto" statements.

Dante80 posted:

D_Smart posted:

He has no Twitter history. Pops up with this Tweet after almost one year. In a Sandi Gardiner thread. Draw your own conclusions.