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JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'

spacetoaster posted:

NOnonononononononononolnononononononononononononononono. Why did I google sc bible. whywhywhywhy.

Crap. All of you should suffer too.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46095085/The%20BIG%20Star%20Citizen%20Admirer%27s%20Manual.pdf

“Star Citizen will contain a large, persistent universe,” is a statement that can be believed. -- The Big S.C.A.M., 2015

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JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'

D_Smart posted:

I completely believe that when (note that I didn't say if) this all goes to hell in a hand basket that they will pin the blame squarely on me. As croberts did in his diatribe where he dragged #gamergate into the mix, only those wankers on Reddit will attempt to drag Goons into it.

I know it's been brought up, but never saw an actual reply:

So what happens when they use some of the last of the money to (pay someone to) make something with indie/minecraft quality graphics; a game which technically fulfills their promises, but is utterly lackluster... with, say, the depth of someone's college roguelike project they worked on for a week?

Obviously it would be egg on the face of the true believers, but wouldn't Chris Roberts be off the hook for everything (except any illegal business practices that occurred, discrimination, etc)?

I mean, given the crowdfunding, if his actions aren't taken as fraud, that would mean he doesn't even have to deliver anything... but what if he does JUST enough?

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'
Yeah, but is a court really going to look at game mechanics vs promises and say "nope, theres a game here, technically hits all the bullet points, but you can tell its not one that cost $90m"?

Given that there's got to be a huge margin in "Well, we overspent on this and that, had to scale back... We probably could have done this for less, but we tried our best and this is what we've got."

I guess stranger things have happened. I am thankfully ignorant when it comes to the justice system. E: I suppose, also taking into account, even Derek says they probably just pissed it away, not claiming it was all a con...

JainDoh fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Nov 1, 2015

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

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JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'





:siren:GIF THIS poo poo UP:siren:

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'

Recoome posted:

ughhh too far
not far enough, i say

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'

DoctorStrangelove posted:

I'm done with the anime for the time being but if this thread goes back to being poo poo it will return.
same, its no fun playing google image search for perverted anime fanservice alone =/

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5-ojeEETNc

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'

AP posted:

Sure he gets a lot of grief too, just for being him but if he turns out to be even half right about all the bad stuff going on and especially the money remaining, we're going to have to get used to him being a hero and that's going to be a major shock to people who've been round the internet awhile. I fully expect he's going to be absolutely insufferable about it too.

Plausible, but he'll pull something before then. I don't know what, but it'll be spectacular.

And then, when everyone knows he's right and would grudgingly respect that? They won't even be able to do that much.

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'

Mmm, ambervision.

e: page number / ambervision combo

JainDoh fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Nov 9, 2015

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'

Regarde Aduck posted:

If by dying you mean we get cool games but miss out on "AAA" poo poo i'm also ok with this. Darksouls 3 on the ps4, Elite: Dangerous on the PC. Everything as it should be.

tbh it seems to make more sense if the next xbox is basically a steambox running some version of windows

but who knows, id rather a future with a pc and buy video cards every few years and get ALL the games... as opposed to pick a platform or buy them all for the exclusives (lol)

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'

ShiroTheSniper posted:

I don't know what a CIG concierge is and I don't want to know. Mainly because I speak French and "concierge" in French is literally "janitor". I like to think that cultists pay top dollars for the privilege to mop the floor of a virtual space station.

they clean up all the cash on the floor and re-stack it; so Roberts can Scrooge McDuck at will

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'
The shitposting is Roberts & Roberts attempting to sink this thread because it's a threat

And the money going to lowtax came from jpegs...

cultist rp itt

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'
why do i hear slurping

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'
i mean the guy comes across as a tool who got sold the dream

but i aint tryin to snitch on someone to get them in career trouble, that's even worse

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'
months later i still dont know if the people who put money (particularly over a grand) into star citizen deserve their money back

chris roberts belongs in jail for some kind of fraud either way, but it's white collar (in more ways than one) so I doubt that will happen

I mean if you gave someone over a grand for jpegs of potential video game starships you kind of deserve that loss... the people who profited off the grey market (aside from CIG etc) are kind of my heroes for this.

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'
the concept that some people saw a crowdfunding campaign for a game which rewarded people for sinking thousands of dollars into it for starships... thought it was a good idea... and put thousands into it

makes me think of the type of rampant consumerism driving games in general; . "Unggg! <brand> is back! take all my money before I can form a coherent thought!" WING COMMANDER YALL!!~~~

my new definition of a nerd is someone who gets hype over nostalgia/branding/marketing for a game, comic, or other entertainment.. and then blows a bunch of money on it BEFORE deciding if its a good product. just, on principle.

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'

Pittsburgh Lambic posted:

Similar issues arise with Star Citizen, the way I see it.

no way, it's easy as poo poo to implement and balance a jpeg

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'

G0RF posted:

I dunno but she wore that top, so she's clearly still making fans dream

lowered expectations, the star citizen story

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'

jaegerx posted:

Lol at the bee cave office. If you've never been to Austin bee cave is the rich part while still kinda staying inside Austin.

My old doctor's office in Bee Cave had several grand worth of furniture and art in their waiting room. It was a very low-traffic family clinic. I went to the Goodwill out there and everything was marked up 25-50% from the other ones in town. It's... yeah, I wish I made enough money to live out there. It's nice.

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'

aleksendr posted:

Even the most sperg or sperg eventually wish he could streamline things once he realise he is just doing busywork.

If they were that aware of reality, they wouldn't be backers

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'

I'm the weird type of ultra-cheap motherfucker who bases at least some of my respect for others based on their intellect; particularly resource management.

Despite the fact that other people's money is, in fact, theirs to spend as they want... I can't help but feel that anyone with over a grand in this would have been better served by escorts. I mean, that's ten blowjobs. The game comes out, it's great, but is it better than 10 blowjobs for every grand you dropped?

To say nothing of the concept that if you have this kind of money in your entertainment budget, you could put it into something that would pay off in the long run instead. And still have all the entertainment you need.

For instance, having just bought computer upgrades, a nicer TV, the things they already did in anticipation that this game would be amazing. Then, they could spend the rest on something like a vacation. Something that, while you don't get your money back, and it's an entertainment/luxury purchase, is actually worthwhile.

Not an amazing video game. Those are worth maybe 60 bucks. Come the gently caress on, grow a brain. We're all laughing at you for a reason.

JainDoh fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Nov 30, 2015

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'
well we all like to make fun of people, but i'd say it's less about their definition of fun being odd. more "well, how much did you spend on... all this? wait, how much?"

cause if they just like own a hotas and mic that's one thing, but if they have a $5000 mancave for fake piloting? much less air controlling? it's less respectable.

JainDoh fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Nov 30, 2015

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'
theyre star citizen backers, theyre the exact clientele for escorts

too disgusting for a healthy sex life, but plenty of disposable income

JainDoh fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Nov 30, 2015

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'

seriously that bitch looks skeevy

not even all the poo poo we heard about her

she looks like shes biting back a terrible, hateful comment to whoever is taking the picture RIGHT NOW

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'

i refuse to believe that lovely cast of her face and look in her eye are merely acting

shes not good enough at acting

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'

Jobbo_Fett posted:

SC just has overpriced ship because... it cuts out the grindy nature of the game? SC is an MMO right? What the hell do you do aside from collecting unobtanium and slaughtering millions of pirates? Whats the end-game

feel superior to everyone because you're a tool

which is why this game would be awful even if real; "i spent several grand so i have this advantage" is the worst mechanic in history

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'

blueberrysmith posted:

Jesus. I'm not sure what's going to collapse first, Star Citizen or Lesnick's skeleton. That dude has one foot in the grave.
yo death, can we trade :lesnick: to get ryan davis back?

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'
im more like ugh about this game

first off, ugh a game whose whole premise is "give us thousands of dollars for a huge advantage"

second, it may well all be a scam, which I would have more respect for if it looked like it was going to work out

third, it's probably not a scam, just chris roberts wasting a bunch of money wishing he was a movie director

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'
they may not fund a game, but they can fund as much cocaine as they want

all they have to do is generate a huge list of codes for really expensive ships and sell them as though they were secondhand, then pocket the money

is there even a crime to fit that under besides "fraud"?

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'

EightAce posted:

Surely its the stress. My God the things that man must have seen behind the scenes. Plus imagine having to work with Sandi , who he clearly loving abhors and pretend to actually like her. he must go home and sob into a family size KFC bucket every night. Some people hit the booze , others fire up a crack pipe. He has pizza hut on speed dial. The guy is clearly very distressed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHLse2nVqxY

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'

Iglocska posted:

Elite is much more realistic in many ways, but in the fun-factor department it has failed horribly imho. I am now just waiting for them to release some actual content at which point I hope that my ship is still relevant and I'll get back to it, but I wouldn't use it as a perfect example on how it should be done.

Well, at least the salient point is that it is an example -- as opposed to vapor. I don't think(?) anyone has spent thousands of dollars on ships in E:D, which is another mark in its favor.

JainDoh fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Dec 19, 2015

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'

Iglocska posted:

Of course. But out of curiosity, do you enjoy Elite Dangerous? If so what do you actually do in the game?

Nah, it looks boring, so I didn't get it. But at least I wouldn't feel ripped off if I had bought it. Just underwhelmed.

e:

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'
as someone who has admittedly cared way too much about games - repeatedly - in the past,

i suspect the fantasy the citizens live in is something they cling to more than life itself.

lest it suddenly dissapear

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'
these people are basically our dystopian cyberpunk present's version of the fictional people plugged into computers simulating drugs 24/7

'hey, i know, theres a bunch of lardasses our age with decent jobs who wish they could just tune out... and be a space captain in a whole 'nother universe. because they're pathetic. why don't we take advantage of their cushy white collar paychecks?'

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'

B_of_InfoRedux posted:

We're not journalist. We're opinionated as gently caress and we just talk about what we want. Some like it, some don't.

looking forward to more amazing teardowns

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'
I've wrapped fully around on my opinionated stance.

These cats that got themselves in 4 or 5 figures of debt....and also did not win it all back on the grey market, or get a refund, or anything? Just operate on pure belief and faith? they got taken like the suckers they were. case closed.

the unlikely scenario where we see actual, meaningful, legal interaction on their behalf... still hasn't materialized. No justice for whales, eh? Can't say I care.

JainDoh fucked around with this message at 07:57 on Dec 20, 2015

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

How long until the first SC related shooting spree?

Sandi's manipulating a lesser backer into it right now for PR

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JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'
neither am I, pretty confident he doesn't know what to do in bed

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