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Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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Lodin posted:

While Vox Day are loving gobshites I see no problem with Derek talking to them about SC. Obvioulsy the Shitizens are once again going to claim this makes him a GGer but I refuse to belive that he shares any of their beliefs beyond SC being bullshit and that there are huge problems within games journalism and the games industry as a whole.

why are you referring to Vox Day as "they"


Gonkish posted:

Meanwhile in a game that's actually a game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jE7UhIyRnA

to be fair, E:D is barely a game. I mean, better than what's going on here, but it's basically a similar pile of mismanaged bullshit from a dude who got famous decades ago and wanted to make a new game. I mean, there's just actually a game in E:D

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Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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Aramoro posted:

It's like people who have coded this have never walked before, your head does go up and down as you walk but your vision doesn't as it corrects for that. Then I remember Lesnik and yeah, they probably have never walked anywhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNc5mv5OW5E

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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Jobbo_Fett posted:

She does the swimming part of swimming really well.


Ravane posted:

"Ooh, I'm Sandi, look at all the swimming I can do." What the gently caress is a Butterfly stroke? Looks like she can't do the Dolphin or the Mermaid. I'm a trained swimmer, achieving the high level of Manta-Ray. Unfortunately, I never completed my training, as they banned me from the pool for my European indiscretions. :ohdear:

y'all are going really weird about what amounts to a boilerplate agency listing.

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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For real though Sandi isn't a great person but y'all are calling an agency listing a resume and totally misinterpreting it.

The reason it lists 9 different types of swimming and double counts languages and lists her Australian accent is because when casting agents are looking for people to a play bit characters for a scene where there's a swim meet in Australia, they want to be able to pull a huge file from those search parameters.

I know some of y'all can't be that dumb

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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alphabettitouretti posted:

"Spielberg is on the line, he's looking for a 'qualified marine biologist', what do we got on the books?"

"CNN's in town because Shamu mauled a person and they need someone with a modicum of credentials who can stand in front of a camera without stuttering or making GBS threads their pants and say the science words they wrote"

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

The best part about EVE is that you are the only one in a capsule, but the ship still has thousands of crew doing whatever mundane job they have. Imagine the constant horror that they live, existing only to serve an uncaringinsane demigod who cannotloves to die.

was this ever confirmed in lore because it was the best thing anyone's ever written for video game handwaving

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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congratulations on setting 50k on fire at a diploma mill to that guy, I guess.

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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look at that poor woman in the middle, desperate to hide her face from the camera so that there's no compelling evidence of her ever being made to participate in such a nightmare

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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Codependent Poster posted:

I love that they refuse to believe Beer's e-mails are real. I wonder how they can reject reality so easily.

These are like the same type of people who don't believe dinosaurs existed.

Without, like, the torrent of everything else, Occam's razor would suggest that "These emails are faked" is more likely than "a company with 100 million in funding has hired someone this heroically incompetent to be their VP of marketing". It reads as poorly written satire.

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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Tippis posted:


What?! Are they suggesting that, just because they're trying something out and talking about it, it shouldn't be considered a done deal? What madness is this?

Avatar creation is a done deal in elite. It's been promised for this season (and will probably be in the game around march or so, going by past release timelines) what they mean there is "You'll be able to have hair but we haven't figured out how we want to do it yet"

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:

Thankfully i'm too poor to afford ED and too poor to own a good computer to run it, otherwise i'd have bought it ages ago.
That 54 second video looks better than anything that's ever been shown on Shark clitizen.

Elite is both very well optimized and also has very low poly counts that should be inherent to any spacegame. Running a HD 6850 at 1920x1200 with all settings at ultra never go under 60fps. You should probably buy it the next time it goes on sale.

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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Xaerael posted:

The other thing about the two videos I posted that is so drat important. Let's look at the script.

SC: camera pans on DigiOldman. Massive speech about "Blah Blah meanies from space blah blaaahhhhhh" audience golfclaps.

FFXIV: *Melancholic song starts* Camera shows HOLY poo poo THINGS HAPPENING HOLY gently caress WAR HOLY gently caress BIG THREAT PEOPLE DOING STUFF OH NO DRAMA I DON'T EVEN KNOW THESE GUYS YET BUT I FEEL INVESTED. No dialogue.

Rule of the now: Show, don't tell.

I know this is a million years old in the thread but I want to further hammer home that one of the huge things with mocap is that, traditionally, you never ever ever ever try to recreate a well-known face with it, and certainly not the well-known face of the person doing the mocap.

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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I dropped like 140 bucks on lifetime pass for Elite Dangerous over the summer, and every time I feel bad about it I look at this thread and see what people have spent money on and who is in charge of that money and I'm always like "boy, spending that much money on a video game isn't nearly as stupid of an idea as it could have been"

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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grimcreaper posted:

Whoever the artist is has some real talent. I really hope someone commissioned those pieces. I really dislike the pony stuff but i could get behind that artists talent on everything else. I love sci fi art.

someone did commission them, but that's also what he does for fun.

it took three clicks before i saw ponies loving on his tumblr.

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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Beet Wagon posted:

Sure, it starts out all innocent and "I just want to help save Space Games", but then it always ends with people throwing rocks through my shop windows and screaming "Braben raus!"

I wonder what Elite will look like after The Final Straw for SC. Will the whales and true believers tuck their tales and buy in, or stand stalwart, always waiting for the true BDSSE?

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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Daztek posted:

I kind of want to try Elite, do I need to buy both, or would only Horizons suffice?

It's super confusing, but buying horizons includes the base game as well, and any content coming out for the rest of the "season"

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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I haven't paid attention since croberts was a baby about people not appreciating the already-extant star marine game has anything interesting happened since then or did all of the whales forgive him

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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Lastdancer posted:

I just finished talking with someone who's a SC supporter about their decision, and they were telling me quite a bit about how it's right there with Elite:Dangerous in terms of development when I brought up the troubled development of this game.

I was understanding that Elite: Dangerous is at least an actual functioning space game with things to do in it... but apparently this is not the case and it is instead a buggy unfinished piece of poo poo where missions don't work correctly and lots of things need reworking? I feel like I've heard otherwise in this thread before, so I'm asking if this is the case or not I guess.

If you want to play as CMDR SSJ7_Mal_Reynolds, hard-luck freetrader and loyal member of the federation, doing whatever he can to keep his ship flying, then you're poo poo out of luck. The aspects of the game that are tuned towards "canon" role-playing (Missions, powerplay) are poorly designed where they function at all, but everyone, including the devs, freely admits they're garbage and the devs have promised a rework sometime this year.

If you want to drive a spaceship or a moonbuggy around and shoot dudes in space, it's loving amazing, if pretty shallow

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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are we gonna talk about how this dude is comparing a broken space game to the major cause of american westward expansion.

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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VealCutlet posted:

You still can, I got to Sag A* in a week and they are spacing out each waypoint (1-2 a week) so you would have heaps of time to catch up.

The record from Sol to Sag A* is a little under 9 hours, but that's some serious poopsocking. If you knew what you were doing, it would probably take you a week to go from zero to an exploration asp. It's doable, but it wouldn't be fun.

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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Lime Tonics posted:

In 9~12 months from now when the funding dries up, and they release big rigs over the space truckers, I will miss this thread. It has become my morning coffee read, but the end is soon. We must plan ahead.

paarp.

After it hits rock bottom and is universally agreed to be a failure, there will still be a decade of lawsuits to look forward to.

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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MedicineHut posted:

Meanwhile, over at the international community...

"In our heads all your traveling and random encounters are belong to us"


Got to love the use of present tense permeating all their gushing posts.

I feel like, if Mongoose Publishing isn't spending all of their marketing budget on getting whales hooked on Traveller, they need to get on top of poo poo.

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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BeefThief posted:

For many of the chariots it seems the only way to the cockpit is through the cargo bay. Cargo will never be implemented in a meaningful way, much like the rest of the features Croberts & co. have promised to the backers.

My question is "What will be in the game when the whole thing finally goes tits up?" Do you think the PU will be notably different than it is now? Will there be some huge feature haphazardly rolled out in a last ditch effort to revitalize flagging interest, like some form of planetary landing, or will we just proceed from where we are into minor incremental additions, like new ships, while the game dies a slow death.

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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D_Smart posted:

If you guys want to get an idea of how all these 14 companies that are involved with Star Citizen are going to be taken apart, watch this:

https://youtu.be/xOOlsCWzItI?t=607

This is like watching someone who just found out how to search government databases and do a whois search suddenly pretend they're some kind of investigative wizard. He's fantastically wrong about everything he's talking about. Also, he's eating his microphone.

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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Cao Ni Ma posted:

Its so loving obvious that no real work has been done to try and get SC VR ready and they went ahead and said that they were "refocusing on vr" at the beginning of the year just so that search engines would pull fluff piece news stories for the less informed people to read over. They'll go "oh it says here they are focusing on vr and that was like 5 months ago I bet they have it almost ready" and of course nothing at all would be done.

I feel like you're overstating the competency of the scam here. What happened was with the imminent release of CV1/Vive at the start of the year, they were asked questions about VR support, and hid their flop sweat by shouting "Of course we're going to have it! We're working on it right now!"

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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FrankieGoes posted:

I'd kill to see some in depth demographics on the people that have spent $2k+ on this game. I have no doubt that some of the people spending 20k+ are legit wealthy and wipe their rear end with caviar and lobster tails, but I suspect a significant portion of the whales, including some 20k+ mega whales, are financial messes of varying degrees, ranging from "I'm not in bad shape but I spent 5 grand on jpegs but have no 401k or savings or emergency fund and don't own a home" to "I'm a complete clusterfuck and have thousands in jpegs sitting on a 28% credit card."

I mean, you could be below the median income in the US and still have bought 500 in jpegs every months for the last 3+ years without spending anything but "disposable income", which puts you in 20k mega whale territory and makes you a complete retard.

you might get your wish from that because when the whole thing goes tits up, the whale database will be the only thing of value they have, and they absolutely will sell it.

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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Daztek posted:

APB crashed and burned one month after release and got picked up by GamersFirst for peanuts, maybe they can do the same for Star Citizen. They have lots of experience with mutilated engines, like APB's beta UE3 version with lots of inhouse modifications that break if you look at it wrong.

Really what I want to happen is for Frontier to pick up the assets and rights for a dollar and introduce a few of the most popular/less ridiculous ships into elite, just to watch the people who have created an ideological war between E:D and SC in their heads have a breakdown

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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Like, the idea that, as a kid, learning about HTML, the internet, etc. you have a cringy website is basically par for the course. You have a website that, lacking a holistic skillset, looks like hot garbage and, lacking content, just stands to catalog the dumb poo poo you say/do with your friends, all that makes sense. The website stays live because you forgot about it and bought a 10 year hosting package 7 years ago because it wasn't that expensive, and it was worth not having to go through the headache of resubscribing every year.

But to have that website resurface when you're an adult, and for you to continue to endorse the weird/creepy poo poo you did and leave it in public for all the view, and tell people to visit it.

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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Derek just because stimraph is an idiot doesn't mean anyone is on your side about Vox 'Hitler had the right idea" Day.

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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Marching Powder posted:

He is the face of a hundred million dollar company that has personally endorsed enough ammunition to effortlessly drag him over the coals for outrage clicks. If you ran a gaming website, I have to think you'd be trying to run the business into the ground if you wouldn't take this story. It is so, so easy and righteous.

otoh, CIG is circling the drain, Lesnick will never get a job in the industry again regardless of what creepy poo poo gets dug up because he barely has a resume and has no skills, and any serious, in-depth article is likely to get you crazy people making threats. No one gives a poo poo about SC/CIG anymore except us and the cultists.

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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I haven't paid attention to the thread in months is RSI still pretending that SQ42 is going to come out this year.

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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I assume that not having anything new to show for the game, not even a prerendered trailer contracted out, means CR will not show up for fear of getting murdered.

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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I wonder which will come first, walking around I'm elite, thereby hammering the final nail into the coffin of SC, or CIG collapsing and ending up in recievership of its own accord.

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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Fatkraken posted:

I feel bad for the people who've gone to bed/work and will come back to five and a half thousand new posts

I played like three rounds of overwatch and came back to 500 new posts.

I'm not going to watch the man flap his mouth so where on the spectrum between Gary Parpman and Ben stalking the news anchor does it fall.

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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ripptide posted:

Still asking, if this is really live, why isn't it released instead of janky 2.4?

it's only stable with a LAN connection to the server, and a max of two people.

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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did he just, a propos of nothing, say that it wasn't on rails?

why would you say that unprompted?

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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The demo seemed really neat but it's completely baffling to me that you'd be a person who reads this thread and would then give money to CIG for something that isn't publicly available yet.

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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thatguy posted:

Why does it link to that website though?

Anyway, there's some new tickle porn that hasn't been posted in this thread before. Doesn't seem to anything hardcore but I'd rather not post it.

because the site got hacked and had it's robots.txt hosed with to help with some porn site's SEO

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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Investigative journalism is expensive and time consuming and no one will pay for that poo poo in video games. Even the people who have broken free of the ad revenue cycle on patreon are still beholden to put out three or four videos a week. No one can just go dark for the month plus required to put together a good story.

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Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

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Everyone talking about how the game play of the gamescom video is forgets about the amount of money some people will spend making loving recreations of a 737-700 cockpit and then spend their weekends flying back and forth between O'Hare and Hartsfield-Jackson.

There's a lot of money in making a game feel like a job.

Not that the Chris com build will ever be more than a video, tho.

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