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Oct 3, 2004

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL6AHr5nvVA

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Oct 3, 2004

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Whats been happening with doobies dog house since he got mad about gay marriage and said he wouldnt serve gay people or whatever, thats the last I heard

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Bootcha posted:

Working on it.

Ahaha now we're talking

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thats a win

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FrankieGoes posted:

I've seen the same thing over and over. Obviously not all jpeg buyers fall into this category, but I bet being a major SC proponent means you're something like 1,000% more likely than average to have some sort of serious mental or emotional problems.

Simply liking space ships, outer space, other planets, or other things like that, makes you 500% more likely to be mentally ill alone

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Oct 3, 2004

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It's always darkest before dawn. The last smartblog saved us from dozens of pages of goonfucking discussion

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BastionPete posted:

Well, I lost access to my old account from 2007, so I thought I'd make myself a brand spanking new one to contribute to this discussion. I even bought premium so I could be privy to all the SuperSecretTM stuff going on.

Turns out that was a minor mistake, frikkin loled hard when I realised

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As my first post in this thread, I'll try and keep it from being a complete shitpost.

Anyway, I'll give you some context of me. I'm about $60 deep in Star Citizen, backed in 2012 at the funding launch, and installed the game once every six months or so just to see what progress there is. There has been significantly less than I had hoped tbh. I saw this thread on Reddit where I am a semi active user. Anyway, while I appreciate some of the arguments for the game never being released, it does feel like one mighty echochamber in here.

My take on some of controversies surrounding SC.

On crazy obsessive/harassing WhiteKnight StarCitizens
Well, you have a community of 700K where the occasional individual is in for $20k. Yes they are dicks and I don't condone any of their actions. However, they do not reflect the wider starcitizen community. Personally I think they are insane for spending that much money on a videogame. Whatever, they are a few bad apples. I feel sorry for Derek that he has to put up with their harassment.

On never ending delays and how the project is being run.
This is one of my biggest frustrations with SC. The actual content being released (ArenaCommander/HangarModule/Planetside) is only a small part of what is needed for the finished game, and yet so much resources seem to be poured into them. Whole critical parts of the game, such as the databasing needed for persistence etc. not currently in development. While this is annoying, I don't think it's necessarily an indication of a project that's about to fail. Just poor project management. Also, I know very little about large scale game development and where developers spend most of their time. I agree that the project has been poorly managed in the past, as is shown by our current lack of a game. That said, just because there have been poor management decisions in the past, does not mean that the current development strategy is stupid, or that CIG are unable to produce a completed game. The current drive to make AC2.0 a platform to build out the rest of the PU game mechanics seems sensible enough to me.

Problems in one studio mean problems in all studios
There are currently four SC studios so far as I can tell. Santa Monica, Austin, ManchesterUK, and FrankfurtDE. Austin seems to be downsizing. Manchester and Frankfurt seem to be growing. For some reason this is painted here as a reason for CIG being in trouble. Some people have complained of toxic work environments, but they seem to be fairly limited to Austin, and maybe a bit in Santa Monica. Manchester and Frankfurt seem to be chugging along fine, and really helping to get the game moved along. The imminent release of AC2.0 is probably their doing. The fact that they are growing, I think, is a good sign for the project as a whole.

Money problems leading to the project shutting down
There is no evidence of this at all. Star Citizen raised $4.2m last month. Even if this was a one off, it still shows that the project has a huge number of people willing to spend money on it. The project has 700K preorders on the books, and a very generous community. If they need extra credit (and I don't hear any evidence beyond unfounded rumour) then I have zero doubt that investors will be lining up to get a piece of the action. Even before crowdfunding started, CR only needed to raise about $4m to get his investors interested and secure about $15m dollars in funding. I bet they'd be interested now.
Secondly, there is the unfounded number of $3m dollars being spent per month. Derek claimed with AbsoluteCertaintyTM that the company only had $8m dollars left and would be shutting down imminently. This is all BS. At the time of the claim, they had raised about $90m I think. (90-8)/3=27months of funding. Which is 2.33 (recurring of course) years of funding at that expenditure rate. Considering we're three years in now and there is now way whatsoever that CIG were spending that amount for even the first year and a half of operation, there is a very good chance that CIG still has a reasonable amount tucked away.

On Sandi
This is the biggest joke of the lot. There is a lot of 'evidence' thrown about on topics that really don't matter. Who gives a gently caress if she is married to CR, or is a jerk, or doesn't have a marketing degree. She oversaw a marketing strategy that has raised $94m which is all that matters. That was her job. If she hadn't done that then we would be right to start the criticisms, but that's clearly not the the case. Cries of nepotism are stupid. She wasn't appointed when the company was a multimillion dollar project, she was appointed at inception. If the director of marketing was just a random person (with a marketing degree) who raised $93m, and then they were fired and replaced with Sandi, then shout nepotism all you like. He using company property and time for personal projects is an unknown for me. They don't seem too credible and seem to be clutching at straws.

SC subreddit imgur posts getting bombed
The idea that this was a 'friendly fire' incident doesn't really hold any water IMO. The fact that every image without exception got taken down, leads me to believe that it was a deliberate attack. There were plenty of really obscure images taken down that were posted years ago that weren't originally posted in this thread. I say originally because after the news broke, some then started posting more links here to images to try and get them taken down by proxy. I could be wrong on this one, but I really don't think so.

Derek's claims in general, and refunds
Some of them have turned out to be true - Austin downsizing, a few perople quitting, maybe a couple of other things, but a lot of his claims seem to be unfounded beyond his mysterious sources. I dunno, maybe he is telling the truth, but he really doesn't come across as the most trustworthy/stable of guys. If all this drama had been raised by a more reputable character, I might have considered refunding, as it stands, Derek claiming something doesn't really worry me and I'll be keeping my game package till something a bit more concrete comes up.

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Oct 3, 2004

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mormonpartyboat posted:

what even is a star citizen

Here's the best summary I've found so far

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Uii8lxRC58

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FireWhizzle posted:

Albion is great because it also doesn't exist yet (still in perma "beta" limbo) and the drama is real. Goonfear and goonhate are running rampant. If you have some shitposts you need to squeeze off feel free to head over to the AO official forums to get a break from the SC fiasco

if theres no goonfucking I'm not interested, sorry

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Decrepus posted:

How do you have 6 bow emotes and have them all be the same arm-sweeping bow? They never thought "hey maybe one should be a regular bow like you see in every other game and also real life."

When in space rome, do as the space romans do

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Ragequit posted:

And what exactly have they done wrong that is illegal? They made a video game. It's not very good yet, and it was made in the most inefficient way humanly possible, but it's still a game. I am just curious what the exact grounds for this lawsuit are that calls for meetings with AGs in different states. Your demands before (I assume you are referring to your release financials/these people resign/whatever blog post) were not a "chance to do the right thing," they were demands fueled by your ego boner.

Source your quotes

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Mendrian posted:

I hope it does come out.

I don't hope it doesn't not come out

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Thad Is Right

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peter gabriel posted:

We need a colour chart to compare the shades of CIGs staffs hair, teeth and sphincters

I'll make the wiki

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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

will you make a kickstarter for you're book i'll back it

Feature creep bloats it into a combined book/space sim/movie/podcast/drink serving flash game

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padijun posted:

Can someone explain the "pubes/clean shaven" thing to me?

The escapist alleged that Sandi Gardiner said she didn't want to hire anyone with a messy bush, or something like that

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why does it say presented like that. can a star citizen lore expert please explain the subtle political situation behind this fish presentation

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That Works posted:

This thread convinced me to resub for EVE. gently caress.

You have reached the wrong conclusion from this thread

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peter gabriel posted:

Might take a while for the full HD fidelty to kick in but:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_EKZhjc0w0

This doesn't seem like it is, or will be, a good game

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peter gabriel posted:

In a staggering twist of idiocy CIG have just said G forces won't affect anyone but the pilot, so we are a situation where a pilot could be fainting from GFOOOORCE and you could be stood at the side of him giving it 'LOL@U' totally unaffected

https://forums.robertsspaceindustri...t-your-crew-wth

loving the only thing that can unite citizens in anger against this game is inconsistent adherence to Selective Space Realism

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This should have been the dream at the end of no country for old men

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God drat he is a human muppet

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Charles Get-Out posted:

What the gently caress is that stupid "'verse" poo poo anyways.

Whatever it is, I've been around it, I've reversed it, and I'll see you in it. Maybe this horrible video will help

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M17YMw1mcxo

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Wafflz posted:

infamous brony citizen target acquired



mission success

Yesss well played commando o9

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Ghostlight posted:

Hey guys, I'm about to get some rump steak out of the fridge for dinner, can everyone just shitpost instructions at me on how to cook it in the least effective manner possible

Too much effort, just go eat out at a nice joint in the Stimpire

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Oct 3, 2004

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Whenever you see someone vaping, just give them a big thumbs up and pantomime vaping at them to let them know they're killin it

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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:



loving finally its dog chat time

sleep tight pupper

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how did I miss this, this guy's posting rules. a true commando o7

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Busting the verse is mankind's greatest achievement since its original reversal

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Khanstant posted:

Is there any info on the greater cosmology of the SC universe? Who are the top gods and where are the sweet planes of existence? What happens when u die in SC?

poo poo man I'm still waiting for someone to explain the lore behind this space fish 'presentation'

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Toops posted:

Things over at Solar Plebeian are progressing nicely. The video quality really ruins immersion, but this is just a lil' teaser:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YAnBanN6iw

Once I get the UI done, and build a downloader/patcher which makes you re-download the entire game every time, I'll start posting weekly builds and write a dev blog. PM me if you want to lend a hand. Especially on the modeling/assets/animation side of things, I'm a loving programmer god dammit.

PAAAAAARP

I can't handle the amount of fidelity in this video

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fuctifino posted:

New 10 for the developers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvlnG45Kois

e: I think they are drunk

The one on the left has the whole back of his head that's bald. Anyone else notice this??

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Gilganixon posted:

Another quick bit of concept art for Star Plebean:



A new alien race called the Chilldankli (because they like to chill and they do it dankly, it's genius)

They like to help crashed pilots so long as they're cool, but if anyone doesn't want to party or calls the cops they can get pretty rude

They fly around in a growhouse class frigate

don't steal any of this poo poo

Dying for space bush's space oil profits

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Gilganixon posted:

aside from the first one they look pretty similar and all of them look equally poo poo, so who cares?

The strange truth is that this is a topic of far far more important care to your average commando than any evidence of financial misdoing, racist hiring practices, incompetent management, etc etc. Mismanagement of space autist expectations will drive off the whales faster than a million smart blogs. In conclusion it's a weird and terrible world 'verse

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I'm, a "big fan", of captain b'tak's, style of posting...................

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Chocobo posted:



Ask me anything.

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Mendrian posted:

So when people talk about how the Crobbler always meant for SQ42 to be the primary focus of the Kickstarter and it's perfectly normal for that to be the focus, they can't possible believe that, right? I mean the thing everybody paid for is called "Star Citizen" which is also the name of the multiplayer game that no one is working on.

Also lol at open development. Every time I watch one of these guys talk about what they're working on, I hear, "Well, I can't talk about that, because spoilers."

The Crobbler says this is open game development. "I'm working on the game" isn't really a newsflash, bro. Or I guess it kind of is, in the case of this game.

The true pleasure of this thread is the slow random degeneration of chris roberts's name.

chris roberts -> croberts -> crobber -> crobbler -> crobo -> crebis -> etc.

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Sandweed posted:

Every time I see a goon complain about how shitizens misspell Dereks name I roll my eyes so hard.

More than anything it reminds me of the way Obama's name slowly degenerated on sites like Freep into Odingo and stuff like that. However, I have to admit I think it's funny when it happens to Crangus because he's a scam man

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