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American McGay
Feb 28, 2010



qirex posted:

$179 for an actually working piece of technology is not super expensive and I don't get why people think it is. The main reason anyone thinks so is their competitors are happy to sell them as loss leaders and recoup that money selling ads. The good Shield is $200 and I don't see people constantly crying about how "overpriced" it is.

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smackfu
Jun 7, 2004



Camera would be cool, could use your TV for zoom calls.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Like I got a new 4K tv with HDR a few years ago and I bought 3 different roku devices and none of them would do HDR correctly. I bought the 4K Apple TV and it just worked exactly like it should. Besides that there were a few streaming apps that just didnít work right on the roku and the consensus on the internet was just get an Apple TV.


The roku is cheap works for the most basic stuff and is littered with ads.

The $179 is worth it because the Apple TV overall is just easier to use and things just work.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007




Duckman2008 posted:

https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/12/22379470/apple-tv-homepod-speaker-camera-video-call-soundbar-rumor-bloomberg


ďApple is reportedly developing a new TV accessory that combines elements of its Apple TV with a HomePod speaker and camera for video call.Ē


Ironically, I could see some people needing this, but I def donít really need a real speaker or anything, so if itís anything more than ďspeaker so you can occasionally video chat,Ē I def wont need it.

Iím really curious as to what the price will be. The Apple TV is already the more expensive box, and we all know Apple tends to not go downward in price.

That does not mean I wouldnít get it and then only use the base tv features though. I would likely just grumble a bit before getting it.

If this is what we're getting instead of just an upgraded ATV, then gently caress that. I already have a Sonos setup for my TV, why would I want another speaker? I really hope this isn't true, or is just a new product alongside a new ATV.

Also, I stuff my ATV behind everything. A camera would be pointless for me.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!



It's also worth remembering it was easy to get a ATV 4K for $100 through promos like DirecTV for ages.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003

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Start pumping your bunions, I'm coming
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Flame your crew quicker than Trump fucks his youngest
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:

If this is what we're getting instead of just an upgraded ATV, then gently caress that. I already have a Sonos setup for my TV, why would I want another speaker? I really hope this isn't true, or is just a new product alongside a new ATV.

Also, I stuff my ATV behind everything. A camera would be pointless for me.

I would be very, very, very surprised if this thing is the only ATV thing available.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007


Endless Mike posted:

I would be very, very, very surprised if this thing is the only ATV thing available.

Yeah same. The atv is a pretty popular product that is probably super cheap to make and doesnít require a ton of attention from Apple, I donít see why theyíd axe it from the lineup.

They have an entire dedicated TVOS, I doubt theyíre gonna put all their eggs into one basket that could be a flop.

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008





This is obviously the homepod replacement and won't affect the Apple TV.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.

Grimey Drawer

MarcusSA posted:

Like I got a new 4K tv with HDR a few years ago and I bought 3 different roku devices and none of them would do HDR correctly. I bought the 4K Apple TV and it just worked exactly like it should. Besides that there were a few streaming apps that just didnít work right on the roku and the consensus on the internet was just get an Apple TV.


The roku is cheap works for the most basic stuff and is littered with ads.

The $179 is worth it because the Apple TV overall is just easier to use and things just work.

Iím fine with $150-200, Iím just saying if they add a camera and speaker I could see them putting it to $300+, which would be crazy.

Now if itís anything like this:


Vince MechMahon posted:

This is obviously the homepod replacement and won't affect the Apple TV.

Or like others are sayin, multiple options, then thatís probably fine.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.

I think if you just want to use it as a streaming box, Apple will happily continue to sell you a ATV 4K for a while longer. It's not like that's lacking power for what it's meant to do (hence all the rumours about the 6th gen TV being more focused on Arcade where it would need more power).

Minidust
Nov 4, 2009

Hello chiicagooo!

Oh, wait, is that a GameStop employee in the back? Hey, you, give me a refund. No, I don't care if it was my fault, just - look, am I the one with the microphone or not? REFUND, biyotch!

A camera could be neat, although it would have to be some sort of movable attachment to work with my setup. I've run into a few use cases where I wanted to put a facetime/zoom call on the TV, before realizing "duh, right, no camera." Then my arm gets tired while I hold the phone in front of my face for an hour like a dork.

I mean if the market was ever ready to embrace a full-time TV camera without paranoia over privacy concerns being the main story, it would be now. If you can't mass-market this thing in 2021 then it's probably gonna be a weird niche forever.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007




Apple event on 4/20. Let's go new ATV!

Ultimate Mango
Jan 18, 2005



Henrik Zetterberg posted:

Apple event on 4/20. Let's go new ATV!

If that happens Iím buying two.


Right along with a four pack of new HomePodMaxPros

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.

Grimey Drawer

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

Apple event on 4/20. Let's go new ATV!

Iím excited too. Worst case , if Apple includes a speaker , we just Airplay it to our respective Sonos systems anyway right ? (Pretty sure you are the other Sonos user here).

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

Duckman2008 posted:

Iím excited too. Worst case , if Apple includes a speaker , we just Airplay it to our respective Sonos systems anyway right ? (Pretty sure you are the other Sonos user here).

I have a few sonos too and drat I just hate having to use their app so much, but thankfully I can airplay to most.

The 5 sounds drat good though.

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008





It's on 4/20 so it's gonna be the Apple Bong and you're all gonna be pissed. It will cost $400 but it's self cleaning and has Siri.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.

Grimey Drawer

priznat posted:

I have a few sonos too and drat I just hate having to use their app so much, but thankfully I can airplay to most.

The 5 sounds drat good though.

The app lags sometimes but otherwise doesnít bother me. Airplay is def useful but I donít use it that much, the app is fine for me.

P0PCULTUREREFERENCE
Apr 10, 2009

Previously On Lost.

Fun Shoe

Has anyone else had trouble with the Apple TVís Music app lately? If I try to play an album, even if the track list for the album is correct, it will seemingly merge tracks from alternate versions of that album if they exist.

For instance lots of rap albums will have duplicate censored and uncensored tracks play back-to-back.

Itís driving me crazy, but I canít be the only one, right?

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008





I've had issues with it defaulting to clean stuff but never mixing the two.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007




Duckman2008 posted:

Iím excited too. Worst case , if Apple includes a speaker , we just Airplay it to our respective Sonos systems anyway right ? (Pretty sure you are the other Sonos user here).

Oh, I just connect my Sonos Beam (and subsequently my One SLs and Sub) to my TV via ARC HDMI. It works spectacularly. I don't mess with AirPlay at all due to the lag I see people talk about. Plus, the ARC seems to "just work," surprisingly, unlike CEC

Henrik Zetterberg fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Apr 14, 2021

Minidust
Nov 4, 2009

Hello chiicagooo!

Oh, wait, is that a GameStop employee in the back? Hey, you, give me a refund. No, I don't care if it was my fault, just - look, am I the one with the microphone or not? REFUND, biyotch!

P0PCULTUREREFERENCE posted:

Has anyone else had trouble with the Apple TVís Music app lately? If I try to play an album, even if the track list for the album is correct, it will seemingly merge tracks from alternate versions of that album if they exist.

For instance lots of rap albums will have duplicate censored and uncensored tracks play back-to-back.

Itís driving me crazy, but I canít be the only one, right?
I don't use Apple Music, but I've noticed that if I use "Computers" to play shared music over the network it can have some strange behavior. Like if I try to play a specific genre, it only groups by albums rather than individual tracks. So for example if I play "Holiday" music, it would include the entire Tony Bennet greatest hits album just because I have "My Favorite Things" tagged as Holiday.

So not quite the same thing, but it wouldn't suprise me if native TV apps just have weird ways of parsing metadata sometimes.

P0PCULTUREREFERENCE
Apr 10, 2009

Previously On Lost.

Fun Shoe

Minidust posted:

So not quite the same thing, but it wouldn't suprise me if native TV apps just have weird ways of parsing metadata sometimes.

Yeah, it almost has to be some mistake in how theyíre building the list of tracks when you press the Ďplayí button. Itís just infuriating because the album will display properly, but hitting play doesnít just use that list, or the underlying search/filter that built it.

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American McGay
Feb 28, 2010



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