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qirex
Feb 15, 2001



The effect was pretty subtle for me, moved things slightly cooler towards blue/green.

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Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002


jabro posted:

Does it say anything when it fails? It should give a message.

It just said I have to try again. I have a very bright room I'll give it a shot again tonight when it's darker.

jabro
Mar 25, 2003

July Mock Draft 2014

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Matt Zerella posted:

It just said I have to try again. I have a very bright room I'll give it a shot again tonight when it's darker.

Also make sure you donít have any video settings activated that would prevent the app from changing any settings. If you have your TV set to automatically adjust color settings the app wonít work. Even some of the preset video settings will grey out some settings too.

Grant DaNasty
Jul 16, 2006






Matt Zerella posted:

Weird thing for me when it does the color calibration it fails every time it hits the greyish white step. iPhone 11 Pro. Atv4k. Anyone else getting this?

It's happening with my XS Max too. It gets about half way done and then craps out. I've tried it an inch away from my screen and directly on my screen. Every time it stops at the same place.

I'm currently updating my work iphone (11). I'll try it again with that.


Edit: I got it to work. I changed my TV's picture setting from "normal" to "movie". It then let me finish out the color balancing.

Grant DaNasty fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Apr 26, 2021

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.

I can't use the fancy calibration because the SE doesn't have FaceID.

OldSenileGuy
Mar 13, 2001


qirex posted:

The effect was pretty subtle for me, moved things slightly cooler towards blue/green.

This is basically what it did for me too. I had already roughly calibrated my screen by taking the Rtings numbers and tweaking them to my liking, so I figured they must have been pretty close.

I ended up keeping the new calibration since, if there hadn't been a before/after showing me the difference, I wouldn't have been able to tell you what changed.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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It went in the other direction for me, which doesnít surprise me because I run a cool color profile on my screen rather than the warm ones people seem to prefer.

cvisors
Sep 24, 2003
Carnage Visors


Sugartime Jones

The colour control on my TV has always driven me to distraction. As it has a huge overlay to control the colour controls, so it has been near on impossible to use.

Now after this it's warmed up the picture a little, and it looks a whole load better.

Looke
Aug 2, 2013



Color balance just doesn't work at all for me, I've tried on both my TVHD and TV4K both updated to 14.5 restarted both, iPhone is updated to 14.5 and I've restarted that too, ever time the inital set up card appears and then is just endlessly 'Preparing'.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012
jokes




I use DolbyVision so I donít know if itís even, like, worth doing instead.

I also donít know what DolbyVision is. When I enabled it, everything was a little bit more yellow. I guess itís supposed to be better, so Iíll keep it on?

Thwomp
Apr 9, 2003

BA-DUHHH



Grimey Drawer

Maybe itís not really a function for us (us meaning goons who are really into tech and will generally fiddle with tv settings)?

Maybe itís more for casual buyers who might never change it out of demo mode.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007




jokes posted:

I use DolbyVision so I donít know if itís even, like, worth doing instead.

I also donít know what DolbyVision is. When I enabled it, everything was a little bit more yellow. I guess itís supposed to be better, so Iíll keep it on?

Dolby Vision is HDR. It doesn't let you do the calibration if you're in DV mode since I guess that has it's own color/brightness data in the stream. Or something.

OldSenileGuy
Mar 13, 2001


You shouldn't really be using DolbyVision mode anyway. Set your AppleTV to 4kSDR and Match Dynamic Range and Frame Rate both to "ON". It will leave DolbyVision off until you watch any content that supports it, and turn it on for that content.

Otherwise you're just having the AppleTV do it's own somewhat questionable conversion of all your content into DolbyVision, not to mention burning out your TV faster.

kri kri
Jul 18, 2007



OldSenileGuy posted:

You shouldn't really be using DolbyVision mode anyway. Set your AppleTV to 4kSDR and Match Dynamic Range and Frame Rate both to "ON". It will leave DolbyVision off until you watch any content that supports it, and turn it on for that content.

Otherwise you're just having the AppleTV do it's own somewhat questionable conversion of all your content into DolbyVision, not to mention burning out your TV faster.

Keep in mind though some modern TVs I am pretty sure already do frame rate matching. On my CX65 I have it disabled on the Apple TV because the tv already does all the matching already.

japtor
Oct 28, 2005
WELL ARNT I JUST MR. LA DE FUCKEN DA. oh yea and i suck cocks too


Did the calibration and basically just ended up warmer. I'm guessing if you're anal and already tried calibrating on your own before you'll basically end up with a color temperature tweak.

I also tried the wireless sound sync calibration thing, no clue if that's new. I have a receiver and sometimes also output to a HomePod mini in the kitchen. Not perfect but pretty close on default, but noticeably worse with the calibration. It only played a sound on the receiver to begin with so not sure what wireless sound it's referring to, was it an old thing for bluetooth speakers?

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003





I did the calibration and it ended up a bit cooler.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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Endless Mike posted:

I did the calibration and it ended up a bit cooler.

I think thatís what most people will see. Warmer picture settings seem to be more popular than cooler/neutral.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007




Grimey Drawer

My TV is HDR and I just turned on ďenable content matchingĒ and it makes the screen go black for a second or two when I watch something thatís not HDR.

Is that normal? Itís a bit annoying because the audio starts when thereís a black screen still.

The Gillman
Jul 8, 2004
Beaten with a sack of sweet Valencia oranges

Grimey Drawer

MarcusSA posted:

My TV is HDR and I just turned on ďenable content matchingĒ and it makes the screen go black for a second or two when I watch something thatís not HDR.

Is that normal? Itís a bit annoying because the audio starts when thereís a black screen still.

Yes that will happen every time

I suggest setting your Apple TV to SDR and keep frame and range matching on. You probably watch less HDR stuff than SDR so it will switch less

The Gillman fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Apr 28, 2021

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007




Grimey Drawer

The Gillman posted:

Yes that will happen every time

I suggest setting your Apple to SDR and keep frame and range matching on. You probably watch less HDR stuff than SDR so it will switch less

Ok fair enough thatís probably true as well.

If I do that should I re do the calibration? Iím going to assume I should.

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.



The Gillman posted:

Yes that will happen every time

I suggest setting your Apple to SDR and keep frame and range matching on. You probably watch less HDR stuff than SDR so it will switch less

This!!! Really should be the default option.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!



Yeah I'm surprised they haven't relabeled it by now given it's something 90% of people go through. It makes sense when you know how it works, but it's a bit counter intuitive at first.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007




Grimey Drawer

So just so Iím clear on it, with frame and range matching on when HDR content is played it will auto switch to HDR?

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007




MarcusSA posted:

So just so Iím clear on it, with frame and range matching on when HDR content is played it will auto switch to HDR?

Your TV might show when it's in HDR mode. My Sony X900F says Dolby Vision and my TCL says HDR in the upper corner for a few seconds when it goes to HDR.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

Your TV might show when it's in HDR mode. My Sony X900F says Dolby Vision and my TCL says HDR in the upper corner for a few seconds when it goes to HDR.

Yeah it does that. Iím just confused because the ATV asks me to turn HDR on. Iíll have to find some HDR content to try it on and see what it does.

Last question, does anyone have a good explanation as to what RGB high and RGB low actually do? I have it set to RGB high because

Protocol7
Jul 26, 2012

Cyber Hellcat is not amused


I don't actually own an Apple TV but that is changing as soon as these new models release.

Are the Apple TVs a hot ticket item like iPhones such that I should plan to pre-order at midnight PST if I want to have it shipped in a reasonable timeframe?

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

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Protocol7 posted:

I don't actually own an Apple TV but that is changing as soon as these new models release.

Are the Apple TVs a hot ticket item like iPhones such that I should plan to pre-order at midnight PST if I want to have it shipped in a reasonable timeframe?

It's really hard to say right now. It's a new device, there's supply chain issues right now due to COVID, lots of people are still pretty much stuck at home, etc. I could see shipping estimates slipping a week or two after they drop.

Just order it whenever and it will arrive eventually. You could also order one and then once they're available at retail in a couple weeks you could always buy it at a store and cancel the order.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006



Not really, just pick one up at Costco or Best Buy on release day.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.

Even among the Apple hardcore there's not a huge amount of hype over a new Apple TV because it's not a Mac, iPhone or iPad. I'd be amazed if they were seriously struggling to produce them given the whole point is that it's made of old iPhone parts.

qirex
Feb 15, 2001



I'd guess the stand alone remotes will be in shorter supply than whole units but yeah it's not a super hype product, you might have to wait a week or two once they start shipping.

Minidust
Nov 4, 2009

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Protocol7 posted:

I don't actually own an Apple TV but that is changing as soon as these new models release.

Are the Apple TVs a hot ticket item like iPhones such that I should plan to pre-order at midnight PST if I want to have it shipped in a reasonable timeframe?
I can't even say how many times I've had to explain what an Apple TV is to a family member. They've never been that popular, and there's arguably less demand than ever with how ubiquitous smart TVs are now.

So I'd be quite surpised if they were hard to get at release... it's a completely different beast than the usual iPhone release hype.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!



There's not going to be a rush on the 'barely any different to the old one' Apple TV, don't worry about it.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.

Also the Apple TV app is increasingly on those smart TV platforms now, and TV's support Airplay more and more as well. I got a new TV this week and I can just airplay to it, use the ATV app etc. But I'm still getting a 4K for the Arcade stuff, and because Roku TV is a pile of laggy rear end and also doesn't have a Twitch app.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

There had better not be a rush on the new remote, I need one.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

Iíll probably just go with the minimum size ATV again like my HD, I donít think 32GB is very limiting.

Actually I should check mine to see what the space free is, I assume that is a menu option somewhere in settings?

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.

Grimey Drawer

Only reason I thought getting the new Apple TV would be hard is they said ďships second half of May,Ē which I read as ďwe may have manufacturing delays.Ē Which this year wouldnít surprise me.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007


njsykora posted:

Also the Apple TV app is increasingly on those smart TV platforms now, and TV's support Airplay more and more as well. I got a new TV this week and I can just airplay to it, use the ATV app etc. But I'm still getting a 4K for the Arcade stuff, and because Roku TV is a pile of laggy rear end and also doesn't have a Twitch app.

Yeah my parents just got a new Samsung smart tv last weekend and itís got Apple Music, AppleTV+, and is Airplay2 compatible.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002


withak posted:

There had better not be a rush on the new remote, I need one.

Yeah, I'm ordering a pair too.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

If I can't get one because you hogged two of them then we are going to have a problem.

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American McGay
Feb 28, 2010



I'm one of the few people in the world who has absolutely no problems with the current AppleTV remote.

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