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2055: Claude Puel and Tony Mowbray, age 93 and 91, sign new 3-year contracts to continue the decades of good work they've been doing as scouts.
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# ? May 15, 2023 02:03 |
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 15:28 |
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Masonity posted:The hardest thing with a small team in the premiership is you tend to have a league 1 / lower championship reputation still. Yep. We started off well enough, a win and 2 draws in our first three matches before our traditional Carabao Cup trouncing. Brought 10 players in and I'm pretty happy with the current squad.
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# ? May 19, 2023 19:27 |
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I know that there's a major mod to add every level of English football to the FM games. Has anyone here ever gone from the bottom to the top? That sounds... challenging.
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# ? May 20, 2023 02:42 |
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It's a not uncommon YouTube series. Lots of starts at tier 8 or lower
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# ? May 20, 2023 02:59 |
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JustJeff88 posted:I know that there's a major mod to add every level of English football to the FM games. Has anyone here ever gone from the bottom to the top? That sounds... challenging. I have a save for FM 11 where I started with Brocton FC in the 10th division. I come back to it every couple years, the last I left it a few years ago, we had just won the "Blue Square Bet Premier" league (which I guess is now called the National League) and got into what would now be EFL League 2. My goal is to win the Premier League, but I've been playing this save for more than 10 years now and I don't know if it'll ever happen. I'm 7 seasons in and only didn't win promotion once.
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# ? May 20, 2023 07:03 |
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I remember a guy a followed on Twitter finally winning the champions league with his bottom-of-the-pyramid local team the night before he got married, which seems like a fitting end to your FM playing career…
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# ? May 20, 2023 15:45 |
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Answers Me posted:I remember a guy a followed on Twitter finally winning the champions league with his bottom-of-the-pyramid local team the night before he got married, which seems like a fitting end to your FM playing career… I think Newmarket Town started in Tier 9 in my run.
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# ? May 20, 2023 20:58 |
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When you say 'bottom of the Pyramid' isn't the real Pyramid something like 22 levels?
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# ? May 21, 2023 06:48 |
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Took over Ireland as an international manager. Drew Norway (with Haaland) in our World Cup Qualifying group, along with Belgium (World ranking 3.) Needless to say it's going exactly as expected. International management is poo poo, but I feel I have to give some weight to the fact they're paying me €10,500 a month.
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# ? May 21, 2023 22:23 |
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Mrenda posted:International management is poo poo, but I feel I have to give some weight to the fact they're paying me €10,500 a month. I would gladly let the entire nation of Belgium beat me to a jelly, on the pitch or literally, for 10,500 quid a month.
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# ? May 21, 2023 23:40 |
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I would love to see a version of the England league system based on region, not team level (something like the Brazillian State Championships or the pre-Bundesliga German setup), but where the group stages feed into a national championship league for euro qualification etcetera
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# ? May 21, 2023 23:50 |
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SirFozzie posted:I would love to see a version of the England league system based on region, not team level (something like the Brazillian State Championships or the pre-Bundesliga German setup), but where the group stages feed into a national championship league for euro qualification etcetera I recall someone doing precisely this for 22 but I never got around to playing it and I don't see a 23 version anywhere (though it might or might not be easy to convert to 23, with the PGE you literally never know).
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# ? May 22, 2023 00:38 |
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I noticed one of my players appeared in a European Nations League match and out of curiosity checked all the groups, only to discover this: N. Ireland: 9 (4 played) Switzerland: 7 Croatia: 5 FRANCE: 1
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# ? May 23, 2023 05:36 |
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I mean it's the Nations League
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# ? May 23, 2023 15:37 |
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Eric the Mauve posted:I mean it's the Nations League True, but France getting relegated seems like quite a humiliation. EDIT: drat, France won their last 2 matches to move ahead of Switzerland on GD. However...GERMANY was relegated after going 1-0-5 versus England, Italy and Serbia. Moktaro fucked around with this message at 08:31 on May 30, 2023 |
# ? May 26, 2023 01:37 |
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Is there a site that lists some good bargain players for lower leagues for the old championship manager 3, 98/99 season? I only remember that Andri Sigborsson was GOAT.
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# ? Jun 8, 2023 11:55 |
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Ah, the perils of having a young talent on your roster: At age 20, he's a pretty good defender, a definite starter at one of the hardest positions for a relative kid (age-wise) to play at (central defender). He wants more money. I want to give him more money, just to keep him happy, but there's one bit he will not budge on. He wants a minimum fee release set to 14.5 Million... which is less than his current value, and won't negotiate it. "So you want more money, for me to get less money when you decide you want to leave?"
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 18:41 |
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SirFozzie posted:Ah, the perils of having a young talent on your roster: Did you negotiate the allowed to use club as a stepping stone? That's usually the culprit for a too low release clause.
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 18:46 |
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nope. I mean, pre-game (this is season 2 with Club Brugge, and he started with the team) the past manager might have, but I've made no promises (other than to offer him a contract which I then had to walk away from when he wouldn't negotiate the release clause)
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 18:53 |
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Is there a preferred real club/competition name fix these days, or are they pretty much all the same?
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 19:09 |
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I think they're pretty much the same, but I think I use sortitoutsi's
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 19:25 |
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Do players keep their chemistry/partnership/whatever it’s called if they switch clubs? I’m about to switch clubs at the end of a season, and was wondering whether it’s worth trying to pick up my two decent out-of-contract CBs if they keep their existing chemistry.
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 20:01 |
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If they're favored personnel for each other it helps them build chemistry faster, but I'm pretty sure it's tracked on a team level, so changing teams means starting back at 0 even if they both move to the same team.
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 20:05 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX959X9w_1Q So Zealand just posted a big ol video on player development. While some of the findings pretty much follow conventional wisdom there are a few oddities. Like tossing a player in at 70 minutes to "get them some game time" is actively harmful to development; if you're not going to play them at least half the game it's better to not even have them on the bench. And intra team friendlies are better for development, so if you don't need money from playing big teams in preseason it's best to just schedule a ton of matches against your u18/u20 teams. The weirdest one was loans. You'll get the best development returns loaning to inactive leagues. Inactive>view only>playable.
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# ? Jun 11, 2023 14:01 |
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I don't have the newest FM. Does this year's opus reflect the new, more generous substitution rules? To clarify, I mean by defaut in the affected leagues. I think that it was possible to change that via editing previously, of course.
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# ? Jun 11, 2023 16:47 |
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Azhais posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX959X9w_1Q I wish there was some real competition in this segment of the market.
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# ? Jun 12, 2023 01:44 |
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I still never loan out any prospects I think I might actually keep and use on my first team, only the guys I know I'm going to sell. Loans do a decent job of goosing sale value but in my experience have always been a negative for development, because you don't know what the gently caress the AI is going to do with the player except that it will definitely train him in a profoundly stupid way. The only real surprise for me from that video is that playing a young player for less than a half harms their development. Everything else is stuff I've long believed to be true, especially about loans not working as advertised at all, Professionalism being the only attribute that really matters to development, high PA players developing faster than lower PA players, and the Natural Fitness attribute being a completely inert placebo. (I think it has a slight effect on how quickly players recover condition after a match, but the effect's only really noticeable when comparing someone with like NatFit 17 to NatFit 7.) Also SI straight up lies about a lot of stuff. I don't think that's a surprise or a secret at this point. Eric the Mauve fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Jun 12, 2023 |
# ? Jun 12, 2023 01:52 |
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It's probably fair to say that when you make a profit of £377 million in the transfer market while winning the league by 15 points you've beaten the game. Time to start anew down below the Football League.
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# ? Jun 20, 2023 21:20 |
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The board gave me a mandate to Spend The Original Transfer Budget. The transfer budget is £845 million. The board is Very Disappointed I did not spend it.
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# ? Jun 23, 2023 01:27 |
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Eric the Mauve posted:The board gave me a mandate to Spend The Original Transfer Budget. I'll take £88 million pounds to not change my avatar. Quips aside, you might want to start a new campaign with a less ludicrously rich club.
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# ? Jun 23, 2023 01:37 |
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Or just channel your inner lollujo and spend a billion dollars per window you coward
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# ? Jun 23, 2023 03:44 |
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Be a brother and blow it all on terrible League 2 players and help their teams flourish.
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# ? Jun 23, 2023 03:49 |
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Vegetable posted:Be a brother and blow it all on terrible League 2 players and help their teams flourish. Yeah, bootstrap your local team or a junior affiliate or something up as high as you can by buying their poo poo players for mad cash and loaning them good players for free. e: or start imposing weird limitations on yourself like only being able to have one player born in each calendar year in your squad. sebzilla fucked around with this message at 10:12 on Jun 23, 2023 |
# ? Jun 23, 2023 08:18 |
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I've not really found a save I've been able to stick to in FM23 but I found a fun looking challenge that as a Leicester fan I'm obligated to give a try - feel free to give it a read but basically I'm going to pick the 22nd team in the championship after the 22/23 season and try to win a premier league title in the 8 seasons after being relegated to league one. Like Leicester, I also have to keep my transfer spend low and try to include as many players as I can from my initial squad, and the squad that gets promoted from the championship, in my league winning squad. Instead of simulating to 9/5/2023 I set the game to start in 15/5/2023 (one of Indonesia's start dates) and started as manager of Swansea. Likely one of the best starts one could ask for since the team has some players with great potential that could definitely be squad players for me in the premier league. I'm not losing a lot of my squad either, with most players contracted to 2024 or later. Ryan Manning is the only player I'm looking to keep who was unwilling to renew his contract, so I won't have to replace anyone apart from whoever leaves in the summer.
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# ? Jun 25, 2023 11:23 |
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Fired this up yesterday and got myself hooked on it again for 5 hours #rookienumbers This used to be a multiple-hundreds-of-hours game every year for me. Multiple thousands back in the CM 01/02 days. I'm one of those "this definitely hosed up my college years" guys. But it's been a minute since I played it that much. Feel like I've somewhat got the bug back. Started with York City in the national league - an old favourite save of mine. I'm unbeaten after 14 and currently nestled in the play-offs, but definitely feel like I'm on the cusp of needing to make some changes before the game says "right, enough of that". As expected it's Notts County's league to lose (Wrexham are floundering in mid table) but I have just inflicted their first L. One quirk to this save that I've implemented myself is to hide all the stats by setting their colour to 0 in the interface settings. I don't want to see a 1-20 stat for any player or staff member in this game. Instead, I want to trust stuff like training and scout reports, judge things on form and actually dive into performance metrics when signing players. I see SI have done a bunch of work on the data side of the game since I last played it, and while I'm sure that's flawed as gently caress, I kinda want to take it at face value and go with it.
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# ? Jun 26, 2023 09:49 |
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There are skins that make the attribute numbers invisible so you can only see colors. So instead of a 1-20 number you can only see attributes on a scale of terrible-bad-OK-good-great. Which IRL is really about as good as scouting can get, so it's an interesting way to play.
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# ? Jun 26, 2023 11:08 |
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Yeah I still have the coloured sections on the stats pages for certain thresholds, as well as the up and down arrows on training reports as the stats move - but not specifically what the new stats are. I feel like that gives you a realistic surface level sense of what they're good at without being lead by attribute points. Like, we all know who the quickest players are, but I'm not making in game decisions based on an arbitrary 1-3 point swing, and having to look a bit deeper into other metrics.
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# ? Jun 26, 2023 11:27 |
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I'm the opposite - I don't mind player ratings because even very precise ones are frequently very loosely connected with performance. I know more about this game's sister franchise, Out of the Park Baseball, than FM these days, but even if the player turns off scouting (so that one always sees a player's 'true' ratings) players will constantly present surprises, usually unwelcome surprises. One game I'm following curiously has a stud young pitcher whose ratings are great, coming from a very good scout, but the guy has no pitch control. He's averaging about one walk per inning. To put things into context, one walk every three innings is considered poor - this is tragic... yet every scouting report comes back very positive on this very young guy. So, it becomes a question of 'Is he going to develop and we give him time'? or 'Should we trade him before he has no value'? Keep in mind that this is a very high draft pick, so there's an element of lost resources/sunk cost fallacy. Mind you, baseball is a much more 'numbers' game than football (except for defence, which is very hard to quantify), so take that as you will.
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# ? Jun 26, 2023 15:27 |
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Yeah and in Football Manager it has always been and still is very common for a guy with CA 140 to vastly outperform a guy in the same role with mostly similar attribute distribution and CA 170, and I'll never comprehend why. I do know that if a guy doesn't come good within a half a season in my system he's never going to and should just be sold next summer.
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 15:28 |
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Sapphic Socialism posted:I've not really found a save I've been able to stick to in FM23 but I found a fun looking challenge that as a Leicester fan I'm obligated to give a try - feel free to give it a read but basically I'm going to pick the 22nd team in the championship after the 22/23 season and try to win a premier league title in the 8 seasons after being relegated to league one. Like Leicester, I also have to keep my transfer spend low and try to include as many players as I can from my initial squad, and the squad that gets promoted from the championship, in my league winning squad. Aaand the challenge ends the next day. I thought I'd set up well, selling high earner Matt Grimes who wanted to leave and bringing in some youngsters with good potential on free transfers. I get some bad luck in front of goal, missing four out of five penalties, and end up sacked in 14th place with 4 wins and 9 draws in 17 games.
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# ? Jun 26, 2023 17:40 |