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EmmyOk posted:I have convinced a good number of pals to come over and get drunk for 194. Some are big boxing heads and are asking for some good technical but still very exciting UFC fights to watch beforehand. Recommendations? Edgar/Maynard II Henderson/Pettis I Lawler/Rory GSP/Condit TKZ/Poirier Matt Brown/Erick Silva Edit: Oh and Johnson/Uncle Creepy I Aldo/Mendes II
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DumbWhiteGuy posted:then he didn't think the UFC backed him hard enough on his voluntary testing that could not really be done because there was no standard in place for such a thing even though he totally sent someone to dumpster dive outside of Johnys house and found a bunch of PEDs and told Dana who refused to take his word on this and unilaterally issue a ban on a fighter and ruin a title fight or whatever. Lol what in the gently caress are you talking about. GSP was upset because after he voluntarily submitted to VADA testing and asked Hendricks to do the same, Dana said in public that it made "both of them look stupid" rather than supporting his champion in proving he was drug free. He didn't ask Dana to ban Hendricks, he didn't ask for the fight to be called off, he didn't say poo poo about finding PEDs, and your thing about "could not really be done because there was no standard in place for such a thing" is kind of undercut by the fact that like three months after he retired the UFC announced they were going to random test everybody exactly like he wanted. Seriously, did GSP say something unflattering about Rich Franklin in an interview because you were really weird about this then and you're being weird about it now.
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Nah that whole testing thing was BJ's MOm levels of bad taste.
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Dec 1, 2015 03:23
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lol didn't the UFC steal his belt when he was showering or something?
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Dec 1, 2015 03:26
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Lid posted:Edgar/Maynard II All the lists so far have been good but I want to add Hendricks / Condit. It's so loving good.
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Dec 1, 2015 03:29
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Haha everyone in the country has seen all of Conor's UFC fights! Aldo/Mendes II is a great call though to introduce them to Aldo. I've shown them Mendes I and Cub but an extended fight is needed. Thanks for all the suggestions, hoping to get them to watch all those before 194 but definitely going to start with Hunt/Bigfoot because they love heavyweights. Then Rory/Robbie II for the absolute war that it became as well as a great example of how someone majorly on the backfoot can keep their head in the game and make a comeback. Thrillashaw/Barao as a showcase of fast and excellent movement. Will definitely have to get them to go through the rest after I whet their appetites with those first 3 though!
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Dec 1, 2015 03:30
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EmmyOk posted:definitely going to start with Hunt/Bigfoot because they love heavyweights. Since they're boxing fans, you can probably tell them that Hunt broke his thumb during the bout and that's why he couldn't put Bigfoot away
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Dec 1, 2015 03:33
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To me Alexander Emelianenko v. James Thompson is still the best MMA fight of all time and the best way to get anyone into MMA.
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Dec 1, 2015 03:37
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fatherdog posted:Lol what in the gently caress are you talking about. GSP was upset because after he voluntarily submitted to VADA testing and asked Hendricks to do the same, Dana said in public that it made "both of them look stupid" rather than supporting his champion in proving he was drug free. He didn't ask Dana to ban Hendricks, he didn't ask for the fight to be called off, he didn't say poo poo about finding PEDs, and your thing about "could not really be done because there was no standard in place for such a thing" is kind of undercut by the fact that like three months after he retired the UFC announced they were going to random test everybody exactly like he wanted. It came out later in an interview with Dana or Lorenzo (I can't remember) that it they said it was weird because it had never been done before and no one could agree on anything and would no way be enforceable by any governing body and would be opening a whole can of legal worms and poo poo. It wasn't written into bout agreements or part of any formal drug testing procedure used by the AC or the UFC at the time. So what if Johny tests positive and you pull the fight and take millions of dollars away from a guy based on an irregular standard of testing (for MMA fighters operating in that time frame) and gently caress up your own main event in the process. What if Johny says "no thanks, I'll have regular drug testing instead of this new, enhanced testing". Is the UFC supposed to issue a press release calling him a pussy who is clearly on steroids? Do they pull him from the fight? It just made no sense. If anyone deserves a ton of credit for the new drug testing, it's Lorenzo for putting up millions of dollars and risking being hosed when a bunch of fighters pop. Maybe you give George a tiny fraction of credit for talking to the UFC about it but now he is coming off whiny, especially after having this new drug testing in place already. Great, you knew that a bunch of fighters were probably on PEDs back in 2013, so did the rest of the world. Also he is driving me crazy with this will he/won't he return despite the division being extremely much better off now than when he left.
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Dec 1, 2015 03:46
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fatherdog posted:Lol what in the gently caress are you talking about. GSP was upset because after he voluntarily submitted to VADA testing and asked Hendricks to do the same, Dana said in public that it made "both of them look stupid" rather than supporting his champion in proving he was drug free. He didn't ask Dana to ban Hendricks, he didn't ask for the fight to be called off, he didn't say poo poo about finding PEDs, and your thing about "could not really be done because there was no standard in place for such a thing" is kind of undercut by the fact that like three months after he retired the UFC announced they were going to random test everybody exactly like he wanted.
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Dec 1, 2015 03:49
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DumbWhiteGuy posted:It came out later in an interview with Dana or Lorenzo (I can't remember) that it they said it was weird because it had never been done before and no one could agree on anything and would no way be enforceable by any governing body and would be opening a whole can of legal worms and poo poo. It wasn't written into bout agreements or part of any formal drug testing procedure used by the AC or the UFC at the time. Yeah, and that's a fine reason for the UFC to not mandate it at the time, but there's a difference between not mandating it and saying "no comment", and saying that your champ is making himself look stupid by trying to get more stringent testing. quote:Also he is driving me crazy with this will he/won't he return despite the division being extremely much better off now than when he left. Yeah so maybe just say this instead of reaching for reasons to dislike him based on completely reasonable things he did two years ago
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Dec 1, 2015 03:53
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Even in denying to try the program at the time, having a supporting stance for GSP's proposal/goal was a hell of a lot less of a favor than giving Conor an opportunity to fight an off-season non-champion for a fake title. Less lucrative too if we would've had GSP already back and fighting because of it. They really hosed that one up and backed the wrong guy (Hendricks).
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fatherdog posted:Yeah, and that's a fine reason for the UFC to not mandate it at the time, but there's a difference between not mandating it and saying "no comment", and saying that your champ is making himself look stupid by trying to get more stringent testing. Meet me in this thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3753897
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