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Commissar Rations shot me in the back at Stalingrad.
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Marxist-Jezzinist posted:Commissar rations are probably better than the muck you get in the IRP. I’m sure they’re exactly the same. The tea actually worked. I used one Russia ration sugar pack, which is equivalent to about 6 or 7 regular packets.
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Jan 10, 2018 01:11
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You need that much to make the coffee taste of literally anything!
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Jan 10, 2018 01:13
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Horrible Lurkbeast posted:Commissar Rations shot me in the back at Stalingrad. That is because you were weak and not fighting the enemy! 
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Jan 10, 2018 10:17
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Comrade commissar, do you know what we ate in Byelorussia? Bag rations! Ha ha ha- *gets shot in head*
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Jan 12, 2018 12:28
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Phuzzy posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R1t8InSD8A I couldn't help but laugh my rear end off when he mixed water with the cassava flour.
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Jan 12, 2018 16:44
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Gun Jesus has started a series on WWII British civilian rationing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5993lPFEwaE Note that it is somewhat optimistic on the rations. Ian assumes most families could max-outs their ration books most of the time. But you need money and ration stamps to purchase food, and some foods were still rare despite being limited by rations. It still probably increased British public health anyway, since they were coming off the Depression. I remember hearing that WW2 US basic training tended to increase soldiers' weights back then instead of decreasing their weight now.
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Jan 21, 2018 21:14
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golden bubble posted:Gun Jesus has started a series on WWII British civilian rationing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5993lPFEwaE Dang, I've been wanting to do something like this myself for awhile. At the very least it would be a good diet plan. Wholemeal bread fortified with vitamins, offal, very limited fats and sugars, emphasis on gardening and local produce. Also, the posters from that time are amazing and I love them    i might have a preference yes There's a couple good shows about wartime rationing available on youtube, I'll post them when I'm not on mobile. edit: The Supersizers Go Wartime : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF9W4Ye5EZo A Restaurant Critic (Giles Coren) and a Comedian (Sue HELL YEAH Perkins) live through different ages in British (mostly) history, living, eating, and mostly drinking their way through the time period. In this episode, WARTIME! Back In Time For Dinner: The 1950's http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2jujx8 A Restaurant Critic (Giles Corren) breaks into and renovates the first floor of a family (The Robshaws) home whilst making them live through a decade in a week. Episode 1 covers late rationing. Depression Cooking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=user?DepressionCooking A 98 year old grandma recreates recipes she survived on during the Great Depression. A bit early, but still poignant. RIP Grandma Clara, forever in our hearts. Suspect Bucket fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Jan 22, 2018 |
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Jan 22, 2018 00:20
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Suspect Bucket posted:
other episodes cover pre 1900 and the WWI era too
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Jan 22, 2018 02:52
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branedotorg posted:other episodes cover pre 1900 and the WWI era too I know, havn't seen those yet! Saving those for a rainy day, when i'm sick or traveling. I love these documentaries. Hell, here's another post-war documentary I love. HIDDEN KILLERS OF THE EDWARDIAN HOME! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7kxUyvkXjw
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Suspect Bucket posted:The Supersizers Go Wartime : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF9W4Ye5EZo This was a really fun and informative watch, thanks for the link! I'm about to watch the other one you posted. One thing that struck me as odd: I'd've thought there'd be more fish on the menu as a protein source, what with Britain being surrounded by an ocean and all. Was the fishing industry crippled by the war (would Nazi ships attack fishing vessels? Thanks to US-centric history classes, I really don't know poo poo about things like that), or did the war just massively hinder the logistics of getting to fish to non-coastal cities like London? Also, now I know that marmite is a French word/type of foodstuff/kind of specific earthenware casserole, not just the trademark name of a delicious savory paste that I'm suddenly craving and have no idea where to buy in the city I live in and thanks a lot, Bucket 
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JacquelineDempsey posted:Also, now I know that marmite is a French word/type of foodstuff/kind of specific earthenware casserole, not just the trademark name of a delicious savory paste that I'm suddenly craving and have no idea where to buy in the city I live in and thanks a lot, Bucket Just make sure you follow the serving instructions right there on the front of the label: 
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Jan 26, 2018 01:19
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Aw, yeah, that's "the good stuff".
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Jan 26, 2018 01:44
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The British didn't originally ration or price-fix fish because they wanted the fishermen to be able to keep their jobs. But, Nazis. I don't recall which video it's covered in, but they're all worth watching so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5993lPFEwaE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnjVXXuTavs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kqcfzWy3E0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_3PZw7756Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-6aZD-VpDE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV6J24V1G6I
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Jan 26, 2018 02:09
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I've never had the Kiwi variety of Marmite, but I'd probably still go ahead and dig in! I'm definitely a bigger fan of (UK) Marmite than Vegemite; which one is closer to the NZ Sanitarium version? Watching the Back in Time for Dinner video, enjoying that as well. I had no idea food shortages and rationing were a thing so long after WW2 across the pond (though duh, that would make sense). Here in the US, we think of the 50's as this golden age of boom economy and June Cleaver types setting down a fat roast in some Norman Rockwell painting, and meanwhile my Brit brethren were still using powdered eggs and getting 5 oz of liver a week six years after the war.  fake edit: ah, at 43 minutes, we're getting to fish fingers!
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Jan 26, 2018 02:21
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Sorry for double post, but... As a woman who cooks for a living in a restaurant staffed mostly by men, I really wanna make a t-shirt based on some of this Women's Land Army art. FOOD COMES FIRST
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Jan 26, 2018 02:35
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Fish were rare because not only was fishing dangerous, what with submarines and mines, but there was hardly anyone left to do it because nearly every capable sailor had been taken in to the navy or merchant marine. So the only people left to fish weren't fit for any other service. I wonder if Women's Land Army did any fishing stuff. Also, what are the effects of modern naval combat on fish stocks? Also seconding wanting a t-shirt, let me know if you find a good one.
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Jan 26, 2018 03:38
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JacquelineDempsey posted:I've never had the Kiwi variety of Marmite, but I'd probably still go ahead and dig in! I'm definitely a bigger fan of (UK) Marmite than Vegemite; which one is closer to the NZ Sanitarium version? It’s been a while since I last had NZ marmite bit iirc the texture is like Vegemite but the taste is closer to UK marmite. So you’d probably like it.
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Helith posted:It’s been a while since I last had NZ marmite bit iirc the texture is like Vegemite but the taste is closer to UK marmite. So you’d probably like it. Broadly my understanding is that Sanitarium decided the local palate couldn't handle the true flavour explosion so toned it down a little, then the Australian creator of Vegemite decided they were, in fact, hardcore enough and/or wanted another way to gently caress with tourists that could be specifically employed at the breakfast table.
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JacquelineDempsey posted:This was a really fun and informative watch, thanks for the link! I'm about to watch the other one you posted. I am pretty sure it was the relative ease of Germany interdicting pretty much everything British with a keel. Also, never had a chance to try Marmite/Vegemite (okay, I got to nibble a piece of toast once, about 30 years ago) and I can't find anywhere in town to buy some. Online ordering is not an option, as I don't have plastic.
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JacquelineDempsey posted:Sorry for double post, but... As a woman who cooks for a living in a restaurant staffed mostly by men, I really wanna make a t-shirt based on some of this Women's Land Army art. Hell, I'm a guy and haven't worked in the food industry for a few years, but I would gladly wear one (if the price wasn't insane).
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Suspect Bucket posted:I know, havn't seen those yet! Saving those for a rainy day, when i'm sick or traveling. I love these documentaries. Did you link the wrong one? There is an episode called Hidden Killers of the Post-War Home, but that's not what you linked to. Eta: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKyqn9wU_vE
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Suspect Bucket posted:Fish were rare because not only was fishing dangerous, what with submarines and mines, but there was hardly anyone left to do it because nearly every capable sailor had been taken in to the navy or merchant marine. So the only people left to fish weren't fit for any other service. And the seagoing trawlers were in great demand as auxiliaries; they were tough, seaworthy, and came with a crew. Minesweepers, harbor defense, convoy escorts... stick a few guns on them and send them in harm's way. Thirding t-shirts.
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Jan 26, 2018 05:54
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I'm tempted now to see if I can get NZ marmite in my local supermarket. I know I can get UK marmite (or Our Mate as it has to be called in Australia for copyright reasons) and I have a jar of Vegemite on the go at the moment. If I can I could do a taste test of all 3 together for the thread.
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Jan 26, 2018 06:54
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If you have trouble I'd be willing to send you one for the thread. I don't have pm' s, let me know if you can't find it and I'll post my email briefly.
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The BBC had a show about the land army a couple years ago. I only saw the first one or two episodes. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Girls_(TV_series)
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left_unattended posted:Did you link the wrong one? There is an episode called Hidden Killers of the Post-War Home, but that's not what you linked to. I was debating posting that one as well, but as I recall, not a lot of it deals with rationing, and is mostly about dodgy electrics and burning to death in your nightie. It's also on Amazon free streaming if you've got a Prime account! The Edwardian one isn't that relevant either, but it's a fun one.
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Jan 26, 2018 15:11
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Bovril is superior to them all
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This thread broke me. I saw somebody had typed "a rock, or something" in some other thread and internally did ":iamafag:"
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Here's another interesting insight into rationing, this time on the american side. WW1, but I suppose a lot of the same logic and recipies carried over. This is a 1918 manual titled FOODS THAT WILL WIN THE WAR AND HOW TO COOK THEM I'm hooked already. And I gotta say, some of these recipes don't look bad. Like Tamale Pie, Split Pea Pancakes, and Cheese Biscuits. The advice is also still pretty relevant. It also really leans hard into the use of Corn Syrup, which is interesting. Makes sense though, no one grew more corn at that time then the US. https://www.gutenberg.org/files/15464/15464-h/15464-h.htm quote:BATTLE PUDDING gently caress YEA Gonna go bayonet me a jerry. There's another book on the gutenberg cooking bookshelf about food in war, but the author has some INSANE ideas about how protein is not strictly necessary for a human diet and hoo boy if that just dont invalidate every nutritional opinion a person might have ever. https://www.gutenberg.org/files/32472/32472-h/32472-h.htm edit: and upon re-reading, I dont know how I missed this, but not only is he a giant fan of Graham (of cracker and similarly nuts nutritional fame), but HIS GRAND-NEPHEW. quote:A remarkable experiment on the effect of a potato diet has been reported by Hindhede. An individual partook of a diet of between four and one-half and nine pounds of potatoes daily, with some vegetable margarine, during a period of nearly three hundred days. The rule was to eat only when hungry and then the potatoes could be taken at the rate of an ounce a minute. During the last three months (ninety-five days) of the experiment severe mechanical work was performed and the total food intake for the latter period amounted to 770 pounds of potatoes and 48 pounds of margarine. What could be more simple than stocking the cellar with coal, potatoes, and a tub[16] of margarine! Who then would worry about the complexities of modern life? Suspect Bucket fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Jan 31, 2018 |
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Jan 30, 2018 23:56
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Sounds like the great grandad of the guy who invented soylent. 
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War does terrible things to men, and women and children, and all of their GI tracts
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Halloween Jack posted:War does terrible things to men, and women and children, and all of their GI tracts Dunno, I imagine the all-spud diet would lead to being able to see your reflection in the walls of your colon.
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I've been able to get both the marmites from my local Woolies! Had to wait for them to restock the UK stuff but no issues getting the NZ one, so thanks left_unattended for your offer but I'm all sorted out. I'll get a tasting post together soon!
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No sweat  . I'm interested to hear what you think, I love Vegemite but can't stand Marmite, but I've only had the NZ version.
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Has anyone else noticed how buff Steve1989 is getting? Hot drat, there's a protein shake ration he's not telling us about.
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must've been some top secret nazi super soldier chocolate bar.
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Hey Ian, how's that liver, onions, and kale for lunch? I see.
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chitoryu12 posted:Hey Ian, how's that liver, onions, and kale for lunch? liver is delicious, onions are delicious, I'm really not sure how kale would fit into that mix though.
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