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icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008



IMO the recent developments in scandanavia (sorry, the nordics, i forgot you Finns aren't part of the Master Race / are Slavic untermenschen) are living proof that white people are irredeemable

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DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009


Remeber how all the (two? three?) kock persu people were all hard about the current government? How it was going to be more straightforward, without all the bullshit and waffling?

Well it's five months and these motherfuckers had a governmental crisis. So I guess that was just bullshit.

icantfindaname posted:

IMO the recent developments in scandanavia (sorry, the nordics, i forgot you Finns aren't part of the Master Race / are Slavic untermenschen) are living proof that white people are irredeemable

The recent developments in Scandinavia just tell you that Scandics are loving cunts about everything and always will be, no matter which of the three countries we are talking about.

DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at Nov 8, 2015 around 02:21

endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009


News are coming in the government's agreement on the amount of regions... isn't an agreement anymore.

At this point I can not tell if these are fake news.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Sometimes I just get tired of thinking of all the things that I do not wanna do. All the things that I do not wanna be. Places I do not wanna go.


Oldsmobile posted:

I obviously have no idea how the social services and healthcare reform package will go down since I suppose they're still working on details.


Look I'm sure the thing is poo poo and could be better in a lot of ways but even so it's still an improvement on the old thing. 18 areas is a lot less than the number on kuntas that were handling it before.

And Finns aren't white, Mongol ancestry is well established at this point.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.


Oldsmobile posted:

I obviously have no idea how the social services and healthcare reform package will go down since I suppose they're still working on details.

BUT

Based on what has been suggested, here's my take:

- it's probably against the constitution, especially the weird 18+15 system, but possibly other aspects as well
- it's going to make the our health care system incredibly complicated and hard to control
- it will increase bureaucracy and make things more complicated to control
- it will increase costs due to complexity, constant flux and difficulty in planning
- it will make defining and gauging the big picture of healthcare very difficult

- it will probably be a system for large healthcare companies to pump tax monies
- it will probably divide the system between the well off and poo poo poor
- it will probably not fix any of the problems our current system has

- it's not a free market system, since it's all about large health care companies getting government contracts
- it's not a socialist system, since there's a voucher system
- it's not a mixed system since it fucks over all small time operators

So basically, it's poo poo but on the other hand the people deciding were probably high on speed or just stupid or both.

but, thats not really different from all the other vaunted sote reforms anyway.

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

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doverhog posted:

Look I'm sure the thing is poo poo and could be better in a lot of ways but even so it's still an improvement on the old thing. 18 areas is a lot less than the number on kuntas that were handling it before.

And Finns aren't white, Mongol ancestry is well established at this point.

Costs increased in Sweden after they implemented "money follows the patient" and a slice of the money will go to tax havens instead of domestic consumption. 15 sote regions without privatization bullshit would be fine by me. (18 just plain isn't viable, the areas would be too small)

SnowblindFatal
Jan 7, 2011


Yesterday's vieraskynä was p good imo: http://www.hs.fi/paakirjoitukset/a1446806684530

All agencies just try to optimise their own operation by whatever numbers are tracked, and surprise surprise, the whole suffers. It's basic game theory, but somehow no one seems to take it into account.

SnowblindFatal fucked around with this message at Nov 8, 2015 around 11:22

Herman Merman
Jul 6, 2008


SnowblindFatal posted:

It's basic game theory
Please don't do this, it makes you sound like a redditor.

ass cobra
May 28, 2004




Soiled Meat

Ei saa peittää

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008



Herman Merman posted:

Please don't do this, it makes you sound like a redditor.

turns out finland is an entire country of redditors

vuohi
Nov 22, 2004


*doesn't want to look like a reddit user*

*uses the word "redditor"*

SnowblindFatal
Jan 7, 2011


Herman Merman posted:

Please don't do this, it makes you sound like a redditor.

Yo I don't really visit reddit too much so thanks for the heads-up.

"It's just how human beings behave in a these kinds of situations"


E: Though what's wrong with game theory? I took like 3 lectures of it a few years back and it seemed like a solid abstraction.

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

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Befedorad MRAs have co-opted it to explain their own twisted worldview.

konna
Aug 1, 2005



What the what. If you associate the concept of "game theory" with reddit / hats / MRA / some internet subculture, you should probs spend less time on the internet yourself.

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012





Pillbug

konna posted:

What the what. If you associate the concept of "game theory" with reddit / hats / MRA / some internet subculture, you should probs spend less time on the internet yourself.

HUMAN FISH
Jul 6, 2003

I Am A Mom With A
"BLACK BELT"
In AUTISM
I Have Strengths You Can't Imagine


konna posted:

What the what. If you associate the concept of "game theory" with reddit / hats / MRA / some internet subculture, you should probs spend less time on the internet yourself.

Exactly what a redditor would say

SnowblindFatal
Jan 7, 2011


Oh no! Page two and we already have a crisis! We need to stay united!

konna
Aug 1, 2005



HUMAN FISH posted:

Exactly what a redditor would say

I had sex with your mother.

Herman Merman
Jul 6, 2008


Antti posted:

Befedorad MRAs have co-opted it to explain their own twisted worldview.

Also they have no idea how game theory actually works, it's just a word they've heard smart people use so they parrot it to appear grown-up and sophisticated.

Same thing as with the fedoras, really.

No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

This inkling is your FRIEND
She fights for LOVE


You guys are all loving assburgers.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.


Looks like people in Vaasa will have to start having a lot more home births now, or just plain getting an abortion. Getting born in loving seinäjoki, gently caress that.

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012





Pillbug

on pelkästään hyvä asia että pohjanmaalaiset tekevät abortteja

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009



Fallen Rib

Kärkihankealoite: äitiyspakkaukset should include a DIY Homebirth kit.

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!


Doctor Rope

Let's just centralize all health care services to Oulu, one great mega hospital in the middle of the country.

Actually, put everything in Kempele, I don't want to favor people from Oulu.

Kuule hain nussivan
Nov 27, 2008


Wheany posted:

Let's just centralize all health care services to Oulu, one great mega hospital in the middle of the country.

Actually, put everything in Kempele, I don't want to favor people from Oulu.
And privatize the hospital, it'll be more efficient that way.

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012





Pillbug

Nenonen posted:

Kärkihankealoite: äitiyspakkaukset should include a DIY Homebirth kit.

siimaan kiinnitetty viinapullo mitä heiluttelee syöttinä

No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

This inkling is your FRIEND
She fights for LOVE


Kuule hain nussivan posted:

And privatize the hospital, it'll be more efficient that way.

Yeah, then we can do some preventative medical treatment. Genuinely sick people aren't as profitable.

Kuule hain nussivan
Nov 27, 2008


Rexroom posted:

Yeah, then we can do some preventative medical treatment. Genuinely sick people aren't as profitable.
Sote-sopu on syntynyt.

Kuule hain nussivan
Nov 27, 2008


What I'm taking away from the current presser.

"We don't actually have anything to say, except that Kepu got it's 18 self governing districts so they'll have plenty of elected officials out in the boondocks, Kok got the privatisation of healthcare it wanted, and Persus are saying gently caress all because they want to avoid an election for as long as possible."

Edit:
"We're also privatizing social services, because gently caress the poor."

Kuule hain nussivan fucked around with this message at Nov 9, 2015 around 12:07

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009



Fallen Rib



edit:

Nenonen fucked around with this message at Nov 9, 2015 around 12:18

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009



Fallen Rib

When they speak of kolmas sektori providing terveyskeskus services, do they expect Médecins Sans Frontières coming to rescue?

Triple A
Jul 14, 2010

Your sword, sahib.

Nenonen posted:

When they speak of kolmas sektori providing terveyskeskus services, do they expect Médecins Sans Frontières coming to rescue?

At this rate, yes.

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

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The third sector is included too so it's totally not just about the private sector, guys. Freedom of choice!

Kuule hain nussivan
Nov 27, 2008


Antti posted:

The third sector is included too so it's totally not just about the private sector, guys. Freedom of choice!
Free clinics run by volunteers for all!

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009



Fallen Rib

Kuule hain nussivan posted:

Free clinics run by volunteers for all!

Kuule hain nussivan
Nov 27, 2008


Look at how cost efficient that is! I'm sure he could handle twenty times more patients than a doctor in the public system, and at a fraction of the cost.

brakeless
Apr 11, 2011

You're pretty sympathetic.
Smoke?

I'm going to be a volunteer doctor that specializes in helping electromagnetically sensitive people. It'll work like this: Terveyskeskus will refer patients to my clinic in the countryside.
There I'll beat them to death with a hammer. If all goes well I can hopefully branch out into MP työterveyshuolto in a few years.

DanTheFryingPan
Jan 28, 2006


The best part, you only need a bigger hammer for that.

brakeless
Apr 11, 2011

You're pretty sympathetic.
Smoke?

Hot tip for the government: Extending conscription to women and putting them to work in healthcare will be a boon for equality and budgets!

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DanTheFryingPan
Jan 28, 2006



Also what the gently caress is thisss?

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