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Oldsmobile posted:I obviously have no idea how the social services and healthcare reform package will go down since I suppose they're still working on details. Look I'm sure the thing is poo poo and could be better in a lot of ways but even so it's still an improvement on the old thing. 18 areas is a lot less than the number on kuntas that were handling it before. And Finns aren't white, Mongol ancestry is well established at this point.
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# ¿ Nov 8, 2015 03:51 |
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 00:03 |
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Just think of all the new markets border controls will create for human smuggling!
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2015 14:09 |
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You make a good point, we should legalize opium and drugs in general as a counter terrorism measure.
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 18:08 |
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Are you disagreeing with his point that economic inequality and poverty are root causes for extremism of all kinds?
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 18:20 |
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There's more than one reason, obviously.
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 18:32 |
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Jungner has always been a caricature of himself, but just in case someone doesn't understand why he's an idiot with this: every loving law society imposes on an individual is done with a yksipuolinen päätös. Or would be anyway, if this wasn't a democracy.
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2015 22:48 |
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Rovio made a simple but successful game and then expanded like crazy to put a dumb bird everywhere, toys, drinks, movies, cock rings, whatever. Maybe, as a game developer, they should've tried making more successful games instead on spending 100 million on a movie or a water park.
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# ¿ Nov 20, 2015 21:13 |
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Also Jolla was basically directly competing with android and someone actually thought that was gonna work?
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# ¿ Nov 20, 2015 21:16 |
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The market is pretty different now than it was then. But you are right of course that it's easy to call anything that fails a bad idea after the fact.
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# ¿ Nov 21, 2015 15:04 |
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As another left voter I agree hotness is important. Stubb and his deranged vampire look certainly appealed to Kok so why shouldn't LA have a leader that physically resembles the beauty of virtues such as equality and solidarity. It's funny how the narrative about Li is at least half focused on her looks. She's been in a bunch of interviews and debates and whatnot and is better at them than most politicians including Arhis.
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# ¿ Nov 21, 2015 23:36 |
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How could anyone doubt the legitness of Pirjo-Pönni's judgement of pikku narttus?
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# ¿ Nov 24, 2015 15:24 |
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That's barely . But cons'der the more terrifying likelihood: yhteiskuntasopimus was always intended to crash and burn. What dread conspiracy are SSS and EK conjuring behind the smokescreen!?! Välityömarkkinat await you too...
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# ¿ Nov 26, 2015 20:34 |
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If Syrian, Iraqi or Afgan culture and laws actually are as terrible as they are being represented as, which is a big if, valistus would be important. However most criminals be they Finns or not know they are breaking the law and do it anyway. Valistus doesn't help with that.
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# ¿ Nov 27, 2015 19:41 |
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Kemper Boyd posted:There's actually good results from the whole valistus thing in Finnish criminal history. Take drunk driving for example, it has been reduced a shitload by having education campaigns teaching people that it is in fact bad. Much like with rape, the actual chance of getting caught while driving drunk is fairly minimal. With those sort of crimes, you gotta change people's attitudes towards them. Right, so if there really is a problem with the refugees not knowing rape is bad and wrong, then valistus can help. Not convinced that's the case. Ligur posted:I hate the word but "suvakkis'" (also those in this thread) assume that people from Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan etc. are social democrats who value individual liberties, equal and LGBT rights. This couldn't be further from the truth, unfortunately. Who in in the thread assumes that?
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# ¿ Nov 27, 2015 20:06 |
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Gortarius posted:So what the hell sort of excuse do they have for trying to implement it? It supposedly will make the rich invest in Finland more and create jobs. That's how Kok sells all their policies.
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# ¿ Nov 29, 2015 18:07 |
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Geriatric Pirate posted:some kids in high school got more than you did and that's not fair. This kind of thing actually is not fair. Pretty solid base for solidarity based voting.
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# ¿ Dec 3, 2015 20:35 |
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Geriatric Pirate posted:Not fair for whom? And why is it not fair? What would "fair" be? The ones with rich parents might end up subscribing to a just world fallacy and find notorious vampire Stubb attractive. Seems pretty unfair to them really. Fairness is hyvinvointivaltio, tulonsiirrot and all the rest of the things Kok is ideologically opposed to.
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# ¿ Dec 3, 2015 21:28 |
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# ¿ Dec 3, 2015 21:28 |
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Geriatric Pirate posted:Oh no, not the just world fallacy indeed. It's a pretty terrible mode of thought to be trapped in. If everyone with a job or a car votes Kok why aren't they the majority party? doverhog fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Dec 3, 2015 |
# ¿ Dec 3, 2015 22:04 |
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We'll soon have robot slaves. Maybe that dude was on to something...
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# ¿ Dec 4, 2015 18:39 |
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Those who have more should pay more, they can afford it. How they became rich doesn't matter.
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# ¿ Dec 5, 2015 17:12 |
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Yeah, it's more of a jännä fight club hobby than a political movement.
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# ¿ Dec 5, 2015 22:45 |
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Yeah, stop all savings of money, just kill your parents, family, the dog and yourself. Testament your belongings to SSS.
doverhog fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Dec 10, 2015 |
# ¿ Dec 10, 2015 00:36 |
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That's really naive dude.
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2015 00:43 |
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The claims that we will "benefit from all this" are about the long term, and with the caveat that integration is successful.
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2015 01:41 |
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Ligur posted:Doing thing X will always be found to be illegal or against some stiff degree or barely voted down in the city council (often for great reasons like "SDP and LA have to vote against every issue TF supports just out of principle"), Do you have examples on what these issues are? Anyways, if an issue goes against the principles of a political party they are supposed to vote against it, that's kind of the whole point. The difficulty in getting any sweeping changes done quickly is a feature of democracy. Sucks but don't know what the alternative would be either.
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# ¿ Dec 11, 2015 17:31 |
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The essential Christmas dish is kinkku and mustard. All the rest of it is kinda superfluous. Also salmiakki is not tar. Tar candy is good too though so suck it swedes. doverhog fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Dec 12, 2015 |
# ¿ Dec 12, 2015 01:27 |
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Wheany posted:I don't like Christmas ham because I'm not a peasant living in constant cripping poverty who only gets to eat his fill once per year. Rest of the year is filled with other rich man foods such as oltermanni and best A-grade sausage. This is proof that there's no poverty in Finland, cripping or otherwise.
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2015 14:36 |
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Oldsmobile posted:Or even if they were, isn't it good they're getting out of that poo poo instead of continuing it? Sure, if "getting out" involves being prosecuted for war crimes, or murder, or something like that.
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2015 21:06 |
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Oldsmobile posted:Just because they have pics of dead people on their phones doesn't mean they were there are they were the ones doing the massacring. Or even if they were, isn't it good they're getting out of that poo poo instead of continuing it? The notion we should welcome known war criminals and murderers as refugees is absurd. Whatever reconciliation may happen in Syria or Iraq if they ever achieve peace is a completely different issue.
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2015 15:27 |
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Why did the Auer thing turn into such a poo poo show?
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# ¿ Dec 18, 2015 20:25 |
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Look Snow I'm sure you are great at spotting evil defective people all around you but the question why our police and court system hosed the case up so badly is more interesting than whether or not Auer has crazy face or if goats are autists.
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# ¿ Dec 18, 2015 23:19 |
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If you got the money for it it's good advice really. Use your coins don't hoard them like an evil dragon. Hyvää joulua ja eloisaa uuttavuotta.
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# ¿ Dec 27, 2015 11:06 |
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Ligur posted:A new propaganda angle from YLE in the continuing fight to ban firearms from regular folks. I don't support banning of hunting rifles but for the drunk vittuuntunut hunter it's a lot easier to pikaistuksissaan shoot himself than to start looking for trucks or pills or whatever. The availability of a quick and easy button you can press to die absolutely does increase suicide rates, and also the number of attempts that are successful.
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# ¿ Dec 30, 2015 19:42 |
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Probably is but I'll just call it common sense this time.
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# ¿ Dec 30, 2015 21:04 |
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Indeed, there is no good or "bad". Stoic indifference is the only salvation anyone can find...
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2016 19:54 |
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Nenonen posted:Väinämöinen was a child rapist. Therefore, all Finns are. Also a powerful shaman, just like Hallo-Aho. One is called the Steady Old and the other Master. Anyone think of more similarities?
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2016 01:08 |
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Kori kaljaa ja pullo jallua. Kadullakaan ei pienessä tarvihde pelätä kun Odinin soturit ja Ligur vartioivat meitä. Kiitos - 2016.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2016 16:19 |
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I was wondering who the hell is this Wallin guy and turns out he is a small time persu active from Vuosaari. Charming fellow but there are persu MPs that are worse so he gotta try a little harder to make a real splash.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2016 22:51 |
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 00:03 |
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Yes.
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2016 00:45 |