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Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Cup Runneth Over posted:

That's me, feed me more impressive sounding Unix commands

hexdump -C /dev/urandom | GREP_COLOR='1;32' grep --color=auto 'ca fe'

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ElCondemn
Aug 7, 2005


Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:

of course you use brave


of course

Instead of being a lovely nerd about it maybe you could explain the problem?

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


I've just skimmed the last few posts but it looks like they have tried to do that

ElCondemn
Aug 7, 2005


Thanks Ants posted:

I've just skimmed the last few posts but it looks like they have tried to do that

The problem with Brave?

Wiggly Wayne DDS
Sep 11, 2010



what advantages does it bring you? it's downstream of chromium so you'll be waiting longer for security patches, and it's unique selling point is adblocking by default... except for brave payments that's just a indirect way of selling the same marketing information but of a specific demographic that thinks they've opted out of tracking

i'm waiting for another red flag to be hidden in the next post at this point

ElCondemn
Aug 7, 2005


Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:

what advantages does it bring you? it's downstream of chromium so you'll be waiting longer for security patches, and it's unique selling point is adblocking by default... except for brave payments that's just a indirect way of selling the same marketing information but of a specific demographic that thinks they've opted out of tracking

I use Brave because adblocking and password manager integration aren't features that chrome supports on mobile. I use chrome on desktop.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




ElCondemn posted:

password manager integration aren't features that chrome supports on mobile

That's incorrect. Android 8.0 and newer has a password autofill API that apps like Keepass2Android utilize very nicely, so password manager integration on mobile Chrome works perfectly.

ElCondemn
Aug 7, 2005


CLAM DOWN posted:

That's incorrect. Android 8.0 and newer has a password autofill API that apps like Keepass2Android utilize very nicely, so password manager integration on mobile Chrome works perfectly.

I'm on IOS

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




ElCondemn posted:

I'm on IOS

Well that's your loss I guess!

Wiggly Wayne DDS
Sep 11, 2010



ElCondemn posted:

I'm on IOS
i was under the impression safari ios had adblocking (content blocker) and a password manager...

Inept
Jul 8, 2003

Yep the content blockers in iOS work pretty well. I used to VPN to my home network which was running PiHole as another layer of blocking, but I stopped bothering because there are few ads that get through any more.

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

Inept posted:

Yep the content blockers in iOS work pretty well. I used to VPN to my home network which was running PiHole as another layer of blocking, but I stopped bothering because there are few ads that get through any more.

Whoa, iOS has content blockers built in now?

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Yeah they're good

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?
I'm going to sound like an idiot, but how to use the native one? I've been using a downloaded one called Purify.

bobfather
Sep 20, 2001

I will analyze your nervous system for beer money

Avenging_Mikon posted:

I'm going to sound like an idiot, but how to use the native one? I've been using a downloaded one called Purify.

There's not a native one, just 3rd-party blockers like Purify. By the way, Purify was found to be sort of bad. Consensus has been to use Firefox Focus if you want free, or 1Blocker if you don't mind paying.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


1Blocker is what I picked a couple of years ago, don't notice it's running other than websites becoming more readable

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

bobfather posted:

There's not a native one, just 3rd-party blockers like Purify. By the way, Purify was found to be sort of bad. Consensus has been to use Firefox Focus if you want free, or 1Blocker if you don't mind paying.

Thanks for the heads-up. I've been using it for like two years, and I didn't do a ton of research first. I don't mind paying as long as it's not like $20, so I'll look at both.

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009



Cup Runneth Over posted:

That's me, feed me more impressive sounding Unix commands
code:
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Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender
https://twitter.com/KateLibc/status/965153674493280258

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
I don’t want to remember my myspace login. I’m not ready for that trip to the past.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


I try to make an effort to close accounts that I'm not using any more, but different services have different ideas about what "close" means.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Thanks Ants posted:

I try to make an effort to close accounts that I'm not using any more, but different services have different ideas about what "close" means.

"Sorry, we don't have the capability to delete your account from our servers! Be sure to re-enable it if you decide you want to keep using our service :)"

Double Punctuation
Dec 30, 2009

Ships were made for sinking;
Whiskey made for drinking;
If we were made of cellophane
We'd all get stinking drunk much faster!
I had somebody try to reset my old, dead Facebook account password, probably because it was old and dead and they hoped the e-mail would bounce so they could convince support to let them have it.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
From the Flightsim Thread:

aunt jemima posted:

So FSLabs puts a cool thing in their A320 installer that dumps all the passwords out of your Chrome to a text file.

And according to them, this is cool and good because they will only use this information if you pirate the product, to find out who you are.

:monocle:

I don't fly P3D but if I did and I had bought this plane I'd be charging back right about now.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Absurd Alhazred posted:

From the Flightsim Thread:

"This method has already successfully provided information that we're going to use in our ongoing legal battles against such criminals."

I feel like this method would open up some brand new legal battles that you would quickly lose with such a brazenly ignorant public announcement on record

poisonpill
Nov 8, 2009

The only way to get huge fast is to insult a passing witch and hope she curses you with Beast-strength.


CFAA vs. DMCA: Who will prevail?

:dmca:

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


poisonpill posted:

CFAA vs. DMCA: Who will prevail?

:dmca:

I suppose I don't have much hope for successful litigation if the police regularly and openly break the law in their own pursuit of criminals and go largely undisciplined, if they'll even admit wrongdoing at all.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Well, they're not wrong about antivirus in general, I guess

This does illustrate poignantly why it can be decent for non-power users, however.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Cup Runneth Over posted:

Well, they're not wrong about antivirus in general, I guess

This does illustrate poignantly why it can be decent for non-power users, however.

Couldn't they get in trouble with Microsoft if their installer is signed?

TheCoach
Mar 11, 2014
Yes, please install this trojan and make an anti-virus exception for it.
Clearly there is no way that an attacker who knows you are part of the flight sim community could use this against you. No way at all...

EDIT: Also this is the first thing a guy making a crack would remove prettymuch leaving only legal users with this bundle of joy.

AstuteCat
May 4, 2007

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Couldn't they get in trouble with Microsoft if their installer is signed?

A signed installer which doesn't present you with a warning when you run it tells you that:
a) The installer was signed by the person who has control of the private key to the certificate that signed it.
b) The installer has not been modified since it was signed.

You won't get into trouble from microsoft per-se unless they are signing the installer as microsoft... otherwise, the trustworthiness of a given installer author is, regrettably, still partially left up to the judgement of the user that is installing the app (or at least the judgement of the certificate authority that got paid to issue the code signing cert)

That said, certificate authorities (*shudder* verisign, etc) might revoke the cert if it's blatantly doing shady poo poo. I don't know of a situation where MS has revoked a cert that wasn't theirs (i.e. one that got compromised)...

AstuteCat fucked around with this message at 12:52 on Feb 19, 2018

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
The users on their forums are incredible. The amount of mental gymnastics they need to overcome is honestly amazing.

“I’ve got nothing to hide.”
“I’m not a pirate so this doesn’t affect me.”
“They said this is only used against pirates, so I’m fine.”
“Who cares if they steal your passwords, are you afraid they’re gonna log into your pornhub account?”

My favorite one was a guy claiming he was in the cyber security field and (paraphrased): “I don’t see any technical issues here because it only steals your passwords if you’re a pirate. Ethical issues yes, but not technical. Everything is fine.”

TheCoach
Mar 11, 2014
BRB making a custom skin for the A320 with a totally innocent installer that may or may not utilise test.exe to "help improve user experience"

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


TheCoach posted:

EDIT: Also this is the first thing a guy making a crack would remove prettymuch leaving only legal users with this bundle of joy.

This is the most hilarious part of all of this. It's so perfect in that vein of DRM that only fucks legitimate users and pirates don't have to deal with it.

Space Skeleton
Sep 28, 2004

quote:

3) If such a specific serial number is used by a pirate (a person who has illegally obtained our software) and the installer verifies this against the pirate serial numbers stored in our server database, it takes specific measures to alert us. "Test.exe" is part of the DRM and is only targeted against specific pirate copies of copyrighted software obtained illegally. That program is only extracted temporarily and is never under any circumstances used in legitimate copies of the product. The only reason why this file would be detected after the installation completes is only if it was used with a pirate serial number (not blacklisted numbers).This method has already successfully provided information that we're going to use in our ongoing legal battles against such criminals.

Is this them potentially admitting to a crime?

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Space Skeleton posted:

Is this them potentially admitting to a crime?

No because you see it's impossible to commit crimes against potential criminals

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

you wanna bet the server component doesnt input-sanitize the info from the client DRM?

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

TheCoach posted:

Also this is the first thing a guy making a crack would remove prettymuch leaving only legal users with this bundle of joy.
That, or activate for themselves.

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The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


evil_bunnY posted:

you wanna bet the server component doesnt input-sanitize the info from the client DRM?

Brb, setting all passwords to DROP TABLE *

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