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BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009



You were supposed to say that it wasn't so, OP.

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Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week
They didn't get hacked for all their money, so they're still doing way better than the average crypto exchange.

(Though I wonder if any of these new online casinos have bookkeeping as bad as FTX did and will suddenly go broke one day. Normally I'd say "how do you go broke running a casino?", but that pretty much applies to crypto exchanges too.)

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Klyith posted:

They didn't get hacked for all their money, so they're still doing way better than the average crypto exchange.

(Though I wonder if any of these new online casinos have bookkeeping as bad as FTX did and will suddenly go broke one day. Normally I'd say "how do you go broke running a casino?", but that pretty much applies to crypto exchanges too.)

Ask the last president

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009



https://social.polymerwitch.com/@polymerwitch/109388193302230207:

quote:

infosec.exchange will be hosting the official account of CISA, The Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency, (part of Homeland Security).

My decision to block them and to call for more to as well will likely have serious professional repercussions for myself. However, this is an ACAB account, and the community I have here is one where "spot the fed" actually means something.

No feds on the fediverse.

Famethrowa
Oct 5, 2012

mastodon is unserious gibberish.

e. like, do they think the feds arent already monitoring their little fiefdoms? them having an official account means literally nothing. it just means they will miss out on industry news. if you hate them, just cyberbully them.

Famethrowa fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Nov 22, 2022

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008







This is why mastodon will fail. Every instance is a fiefdom run by one person. Who can read your DM's.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

spankmeister posted:

This is why mastodon will fail. Every instance is a fiefdom run by one person. Who can read your DM's.

I am pretty sure Elon is reading dm's right now. Is that somehow better?

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
all my private messages are double encrypted with ROT-13 for maximum security so I'm feelin' fine

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009



Famethrowa posted:

mastodon is unserious gibberish.

e. like, do they think the feds arent already monitoring their little fiefdoms? them having an official account means literally nothing. it just means they will miss out on industry news. if you hate them, just cyberbully them.
I think it's more of a philosophical thing, ie. being against feds on principle vs the reality that if MOSSAD wants to MOSSAD you, you will be MOSSAD'd upon.

Also, I'm absolutely stealing this from kurtm@OpenBSD:
Fediverse was clearly a typo, it was supposed to have been Fed Averse.

spankmeister posted:

This is why mastodon will fail. Every instance is a fiefdom run by one person. Who can read your DM's.
I rather hope it's a lesson that people will take to heart, that smaller mastodon instances should only be used by people who have the same technological and political opinions as the admins of that particular instance.
It's also a lesson to IT folks who might one day have to recommend non-IT folks join Mastodon; we may need to get used to recommending people join mastodon.social until they've found smaller instance that they can join more permanently.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Perhaps it won't be long until there's an OTR or similar plugin for mastodon so people can have private DM's.

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

pgp is back baby

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

spankmeister posted:

This is why mastodon will fail. Every instance is a fiefdom run by one person. Who can read your DM's.
Just like email, just like Jabber, just like Matrix, just like IRC, etc...

...and Twitter, and Facebook, and Instagram, and Snapchat, and literally anything else that allows for unencrypted chat to even happen.

That's the benefit of federated systems, you can choose the one(s) run by a person or group you trust. Don't trust anyone? Run your own.

Personally I never trusted Twitter to do anything more than give me a feed of posts by people I choose to follow, so when evaluating Twitter alternatives I just went with herd mentality and chose the largest open instance that had multiple people I follow on Twitter on it.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Lol if you DM anything you wouldn't want people to read on any website. That poo poo is all unencrypted, Twitter employees are probably eating popcorn while they read a live feed of them. Not to mention the hackers who've silently compromised it and are just watching and waiting, especially post-Elon. Use Telegram if you don't want your instance admin to read your desperate attempts to make friends or you creeping on infosec women.

I assume there's a reason they don't call them Private Messages anymore.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Y'all seem to be hung up on the DM part of my post but that was just secondary to my point of mastodon admins running a fiefdom. Of course one shouldn't have any expectation of privacy .

App13
Dec 31, 2011

I don’t find fiefdoms. It’s like forums from the days of yore. Admins who are dicks are just part of the sauce

(Also open to any suggestions on good mastodon servers.)

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


hachyderm.io

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




mastodon is stupid and loving sucks, like most open source things

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Corpo

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

spankmeister posted:

This is why mastodon will fail. Every instance is a fiefdom run by one person. Who can read your DM's.

It's a one-person instance run by the single person that uses it, who is also the one making the announcement. It impacts no-one other than that person.


This is like someone on twitter blocking the CISA, then publicly announcing they've blocked CISA on twitter, and saying "this will have professional consequences for me". Nobody would have known or cared if they hadn't announced it to be performative.

And nobody would have taken it as evidence that twitter was doomed. Finding tiny mastodon instances run by weirdos is like finding a forum about multi-dick dragons: amusing, but meaningless.

astral
Apr 26, 2004

Klyith posted:

Finding tiny mastodon instances run by weirdos is like finding a forum about multi-dick dragons: amusing, but meaningless.

Weekend Web reimagined as Mastodon Monday

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


The Fool posted:

hachyderm.io

Saukkis
May 16, 2003

Unless I'm on the inside curve pointing straight at oncoming traffic the high beams stay on and I laugh at your puny protest flashes.
I am Most Important Man. Most Important Man in the World.

BlankSystemDaemon posted:

I rather hope it's a lesson that people will take to heart, that smaller mastodon instances should only be used by people who have the same technological and political opinions as the admins of that particular instance.
It's also a lesson to IT folks who might one day have to recommend non-IT folks join Mastodon; we may need to get used to recommending people join mastodon.social until they've found smaller instance that they can join more permanently.

We need more internet services run by NGOs. My main email address is provided by a registered society. If a corporation would try to buy the service it would be a hopeless effort. I have my one vote like everyone else and I would vote against it, as I assume would most members. If the society runs into monetary issues it would probably be easy to squeeze few euros out of the members. But I paid my 30€ joining fee 15-20 years ago and they have never asked for another penny.

Mustache Ride
Sep 11, 2001



Speaking of: https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/host-your-own-mastodon-instance-on-a-raspberry-pi/

I love how they're suggesting this when no one can get a hold of the hardware.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007





the best cyberpunk 2077 backstory, yes

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


CLAM DOWN posted:

mastodon is stupid and loving sucks, like most open source things

Yeah that Linux thing is never gonna take off.

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009



Saukkis posted:

We need more internet services run by NGOs. My main email address is provided by a registered society. If a corporation would try to buy the service it would be a hopeless effort. I have my one vote like everyone else and I would vote against it, as I assume would most members. If the society runs into monetary issues it would probably be easy to squeeze few euros out of the members. But I paid my 30€ joining fee 15-20 years ago and they have never asked for another penny.
Why limit yourself to one, or a few, addresses?

I have one that I use as fallback for when all others don't apply, an entire domain with a catch-all mailbox so I can do service@example.tld and have a reasonable expectation that if I see that mail address anywhere it's because that provider leaked (irrespective of what they claim), one that always goes directly to my phone, one for my work with an opensource project, and a few that (to my knowledge) aren't listed publicly.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




jaegerx posted:

Yeah that Linux thing is never gonna take off.

don't you have some english football to watch your team lose at

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

jaegerx posted:

Yeah that Linux thing is never gonna take off.

Lots of things that suck take off and get to be huge. I think maybe you haven’t been paying attention to…anything.

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


Subjunctive posted:

Lots of things that suck take off and get to be huge. I think maybe you haven’t been paying attention to…anything.

Yeah windows is still a thing

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


So is Twitter
















for now

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009



CLAM DOWN posted:

don't you have some english football to watch your team lose at
:rubby:

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Subjunctive posted:

Lots of things that suck take off and get to be huge.

yeah, like jaegerx

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?

BlankSystemDaemon posted:

Why limit yourself to one, or a few, addresses?

I have one that I use as fallback for when all others don't apply, an entire domain with a catch-all mailbox so I can do service@example.tld and have a reasonable expectation that if I see that mail address anywhere it's because that provider leaked (irrespective of what they claim), one that always goes directly to my phone, one for my work with an opensource project, and a few that (to my knowledge) aren't listed publicly.

I just use the + extensions on my personal account (e.g. <real-email>+<are-you-selling-my-contact-info-company-name>@<email-provider>.tld).

Saukkis
May 16, 2003

Unless I'm on the inside curve pointing straight at oncoming traffic the high beams stay on and I laugh at your puny protest flashes.
I am Most Important Man. Most Important Man in the World.

BlankSystemDaemon posted:

Why limit yourself to one, or a few, addresses?

I have one that I use as fallback for when all others don't apply, an entire domain with a catch-all mailbox so I can do service@example.tld and have a reasonable expectation that if I see that mail address anywhere it's because that provider leaked (irrespective of what they claim), one that always goes directly to my phone, one for my work with an opensource project, and a few that (to my knowledge) aren't listed publicly.

I have my own domain with new email addresses whenever I want one. I even used to run SMTP receiver at my home. But all that is a huge hassle no one should have to go through. Even the domain renewals have been much bigger expense that the society, not to mention the email hosting. Instead any grandpa can get a capitalism-free email address from the society. I use the society email as my main address and the personal domain for secondary and temporary uses, as a preparation for the day I don't want to deal with a domain anymore.

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


CLAM DOWN posted:

don't you have some english football to watch your team lose at

How are the canadiens doing?

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009



Ynglaur posted:

I just use the + extensions on my personal account (e.g. <real-email>+<are-you-selling-my-contact-info-company-name>@<email-provider>.tld).
I used to do that too and it works up to a point.

Problem is, it's extremely trivial to subject to a regular expression with sed and I don't trust that all websites support it (which they absolutely don't).

Saukkis posted:

I have my own domain with new email addresses whenever I want one. I even used to run SMTP receiver at my home. But all that is a huge hassle no one should have to go through. Even the domain renewals have been much bigger expense that the society, not to mention the email hosting. Instead any grandpa can get a capitalism-free email address from the society. I use the society email as my main address and the personal domain for secondary and temporary uses, as a preparation for the day I don't want to deal with a domain anymore.
That's one advantage of the catch-all method, because it means I don't have to create new accounts on that domain - but yeah, it's not something that a non-IT person can do, I'll grant that.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

astral posted:

Weekend Web reimagined as Mastodon Monday

YES

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Please can we keep the Clam Down + jaegerx romance saga to the Working in IT thread. For my own sanity. Please, I don't ask for much.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Internet Explorer posted:

Please can we keep the Clam Down + jaegerx romance saga to the Working in IT thread. For my own sanity. Please, I don't ask for much.

yes daddy

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jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


Not to be anti mod here but the fact that most of the world cup apps by qatar are basically invading all your privacy so the world cup is kinda a topic.

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