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blue squares
Sep 28, 2007


Soiled Meat

Yeah the much smarter thing to do is to join the Peace Corps, where they actually pay you and provide medical coverage

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Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

i had a buddy that did 2 years in suriname with the peace corp

i know that he spent all his money on beer and porn, and used to run around scare kids with a rubber john mccain mask

krispykremessuck
Jul 22, 2005

unlike most veterans and SA members $10 is not a meaningful expenditure for me

I'm gonna have me a swag Bar-B-Q

blue squares posted:

Yeah the much smarter thing to do is to join the Peace Corps, where they actually pay you and provide medical coverage

they typically require relevant degrees and skills, so I guess Indonesia is still in the running

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007


Soiled Meat

krispykremessuck posted:

they typically require relevant degrees and skills, so I guess Indonesia is still in the running

I'm getting my teaching certificate (but that was a good burn).

Diarrhea Elemental
Apr 2, 2012

Am I correct in my assumption, you fish-faced enemy of the people?

blue squares posted:

I'm getting my teaching certificate (but that was a good burn).

It makes me glad that someone whose sole purpose in life seems to be serving as a warning to others is really thriving despite the odds.

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007


Soiled Meat

edit: not the thread for this

blue squares fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Jan 14, 2016

brand engager
Mar 23, 2011



Grimey Drawer

I was just up at my school to fill out the form for dropping a class, and asked the guy at the VA desk what I would owe back. Since this is past the end of the 100% refund window and before the end of the 60% refund window I thought I would only owe 40% of the tuition back to the VA, but the guy working the desk said I would owe all of it back. Is he right?

Kawasaki Nun
Jul 16, 2001

by Reene


Jesus, just got off the phone with a VFW rep who told me that might application appeal that I filed last april seemingly hasn't progressed at all. When I initially filed it I was told to expect it to take approximately a year, and now whoever I spoke to at the VFW office said he's been told to warn vets that it might be as long as 5 years before these appeals get processed.

Anyone know any specifics about applying for Voc Rehab with only a 10% rating? I know I'll have to connect my rating to why I can't employed or something, but I'm pretty fuzzy about the whole process.

SperginMcBadposter posted:

I was just up at my school to fill out the form for dropping a class, and asked the guy at the VA desk what I would owe back. Since this is past the end of the 100% refund window and before the end of the 60% refund window I thought I would only owe 40% of the tuition back to the VA, but the guy working the desk said I would owe all of it back. Is he right?


I would imagine the VA would want the entire amount from you, but that the refund issued by the school would also disburse the 60% the VA already paid back to you. There is also the matter of whether or not dropping that class is going to take you out of full student status and how that might effect your housing stipend and stuff.

I know in colorado there are programs to help offset these costs if you do incur them. You should probably talk to your school's bursar and financial aid people about what exactly is going to happen

Kawasaki Nun fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Jan 22, 2016

cult_hero
Jul 10, 2001


Kawasaki Nun posted:


Anyone know any specifics about applying for Voc Rehab with only a 10% rating? I know I'll have to connect my rating to why I can't employed or something, but I'm pretty fuzzy about the whole process.


You just have to show a "serious employment handicap" and it doesn't have to be service connected.

No, I have no idea what a serious employment handicap would entail.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?


Being a veteran should count.

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007


Soiled Meat

cult_hero posted:

You just have to show a "serious employment handicap" and it doesn't have to be service connected.

No, I have no idea what a serious employment handicap would entail.

My degree plan

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?


blue squares posted:

My degree plan

Naked Bear
Apr 15, 2007

Boners was recorded before a studio audience that was alive!


blue squares posted:

My degree plan
Holy poo poo.

TheQuietWilds
Sep 8, 2009


Wicked self-burn

Svanja
Sep 19, 2009


I am finally(!) in my last semester at my university and graduate in May. I've been using a portion of my husband's GI Bill that he split between our daughter and me. I had two weeks left when this semester began (only half time woohoo!) and my tuition was paid and my book stipend showed up with no problems. However, today I checked the bank and there was no deposit for the partial BAH for January. I was wondering if because I only had two weeks left that it means I won't be receiving any of the housing allowance (which I know would have been halved due to my half-time status). I guess I should note that I've received BAH with no problems the last couple of years of attendance.

My daughter is also just started using her portion to go to university full-time where she lives (Omaha). Could her receiving BAH for herself end my allowance? It will only sting a little if this is how that works, was just hoping I could get some much needed dental work done in case I can't make it to March 1st (when our dental benefits kick in).

Blue Squares:

Svanja fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Feb 1, 2016

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!



Anyone know how long you have after separating to move on the govt.'s dime? I'm planning on moving to San Diego, just got to sell my house and poo poo. Lots of stuff.

The Slithery D
Jul 19, 2012

by zen death robot


18 months. They'll tell you as you separate.

Svanja
Sep 19, 2009


re: My earlier post with questions.

Ok, think I found my answer here: "If the GI-Bill benefit was transferred to you, transferred benefits are day for day – just like those who hit the 48 month maximum. If the transferred benefit ends in the middle of the semester, all the tuition and fees will be prorated to a daily rate for tuition, as well as for the BAH; however, the book stipend will be paid in full (not prorated)."

Read more at: https://www.navycs.com/blogs/2011/0...s-during-a-term

So, looks like my tuition was completely covered (I checked my bill online and it was paid in full), but I'm now out of the BAH entitlement. Darn it.

Svanja fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Feb 1, 2016

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

Man-oh-man, Cowboy looks like a bag of leftovers from a V.F.W. barbecue. Of
course, I've got nothing against dead people. Why, some of my best friends are dead

Soulex posted:

Anyone know how long you have after separating to move on the govt.'s dime? I'm planning on moving to San Diego, just got to sell my house and poo poo. Lots of stuff.

It also makes a difference if you're separating or retiring, but that all gets explained

App13
Dec 31, 2011



Anyone know if a delay in BAH is normal at the beginning of the semester? This is my 4th semester, and I think this is the first time BAH has been late. The semester started on the 19th of January and I'm in vocrehab, if that makes any difference.

TheQuietWilds
Sep 8, 2009


App13 posted:

Anyone know if a delay in BAH is normal at the beginning of the semester? This is my 4th semester, and I think this is the first time BAH has been late. The semester started on the 19th of January and I'm in vocrehab, if that makes any difference.

Every time this has happened to me it ends up being that the school's VA person hasn't clicked the right button on the VA web-portal. Neither of those are the right technical term, but it's a general description.

App13
Dec 31, 2011



TheQuietWilds posted:

Every time this has happened to me it ends up being that the school's VA person hasn't clicked the right button on the VA web-portal. Neither of those are the right technical term, but it's a general description.

Should I bring this up to the Vet office at my school, or somehow talk to the VA directly?

TheQuietWilds
Sep 8, 2009


App13 posted:

Should I bring this up to the Vet office at my school, or somehow talk to the VA directly?

Vet office at school. Just ask if they've verified your enrollment to the VA yet.

App13
Dec 31, 2011



TheQuietWilds posted:

Vet office at school. Just ask if they've verified your enrollment to the VA yet.

Excellent, thank you.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002

~c u at the crossroads~


Slippery Tilde

can someone remind me where to pull my VMET, the joint military transcripts thing? I thought it was on the ebenefits site but i'm retarded and not seeing it

nvm, dmdc

CHICKEN SHOES fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Feb 2, 2016

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!



Question. So I have two disqualifying conditions for the military for the medboard. In order to get an idea on my percentages, do they count both percentages before doing the weird hosed up math? Or do they count one leg then go to the other in the "healthy body" status like my 2 status conditions fit (PTSD and other stuff)?

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

Man-oh-man, Cowboy looks like a bag of leftovers from a V.F.W. barbecue. Of
course, I've got nothing against dead people. Why, some of my best friends are dead

Soulex posted:

Question. So I have two disqualifying conditions for the military for the medboard. In order to get an idea on my percentages, do they count both percentages before doing the weird hosed up math? Or do they count one leg then go to the other in the "healthy body" status like my 2 status conditions fit (PTSD and other stuff)?

First percentage against 100%, second against what's left.

eta: rounded to the nearest ten.

I have a 30%, 20%, and 10% for 50%

UP THE BUM NO BABY fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Feb 9, 2016

Delizin
Nov 9, 2005

It may not be interracial, but it is black and white.

Soulex posted:

Question. So I have two disqualifying conditions for the military for the medboard. In order to get an idea on my percentages, do they count both percentages before doing the weird hosed up math? Or do they count one leg then go to the other in the "healthy body" status like my 2 status conditions fit (PTSD and other stuff)?

So they changed the way medboards work a few years back. It used to be that the Army would come up with it's own percentage and the VA would have another one. Now the VA decides both percentages, but only the conditions that are disqualifying will count for the Army and everything counts for the VA.

To come up with your disability percentages the VA uses the VA Schedule for Rating Disabilities Book C. They will compare the description and severity of your conditions as stated in your NARSUM and medical records and try to match it up with the condition in the VASRD. If they can't find your specific condition in it they will try to find the closest thing, but keep in mind the person doing the rating most likely isn't a doctor or medical professional, so you can get hosed if they don't really understand what is wrong with you and assign you to a wrong condition. I had that happen to me twice and had to appeal and tell them specifically what VASRD condition I wanted them to list me under and why. That made the difference between getting out with 10% and 100%.

The VASRD also details how they add up all your disability ratings to get your total level of disability here:
http://www.benefits.va.gov/warms/do...PART4/S4_25.doc

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!



Pesticide20 posted:

First percentage against 100%, second against what's left.

eta: rounded to the nearest ten.

I have a 30%, 20%, and 10% for 50%

Even if it's the same condition just different legs? They don't lump it as a single condition for both, but separately. Which is dumb imo.

Delizin posted:

So they changed the way medboards work a few years back. It used to be that the Army would come up with it's own percentage and the VA would have another one. Now the VA decides both percentages, but only the conditions that are disqualifying will count for the Army and everything counts for the VA.

To come up with your disability percentages the VA uses the VA Schedule for Rating Disabilities Book C. They will compare the description and severity of your conditions as stated in your NARSUM and medical records and try to match it up with the condition in the VASRD. If they can't find your specific condition in it they will try to find the closest thing, but keep in mind the person doing the rating most likely isn't a doctor or medical professional, so you can get hosed if they don't really understand what is wrong with you and assign you to a wrong condition. I had that happen to me twice and had to appeal and tell them specifically what VASRD condition I wanted them to list me under and why. That made the difference between getting out with 10% and 100%.

The VASRD also details how they add up all your disability ratings to get your total level of disability here:
http://www.benefits.va.gov/warms/do...PART4/S4_25.doc

Thanks. Yeah, the math and stuff is all weird, but my main goal is to at least get 30. Target is 30. Depending on how they do the math I could make or fail that. I know the VA does something different which is important, but I'm just wanting to make sure I make it past that 30% threshold

Delizin
Nov 9, 2005

It may not be interracial, but it is black and white.

Soulex posted:

Even if it's the same condition just different legs? They don't lump it as a single condition for both, but separately. Which is dumb imo.

So for the same condition on different limbs it is rated as a bilateral condition: http://www.benefits.va.gov/warms/do...PART4/S4_26.doc

If they don't give you 30%, appeal before you get out. First go through the VASRD and look for any conditions that you forgot to include in your medboard then if you find anything new that you can backup with medical evidence you can demand a formal PEB and ask that those conditions be included. You can also ask that any conditions that were not disqualifying be changed to disqualifying if you can support it with AR 40-501, Standards of Medical Fitness. Then you can also appeal any ratings you receive from the VA once before you get out. The VASRD will tell you the requirements to get a rating changed from 10% to 30%, etc.

You mentioned PTSD earlier which has some special rules that will likely result in you being given TDLR instead of PDLR. In this case you will have to see a VA doctor every so often and they will determine if your condition has improved, worsened or stabilized. If it has improved they can recommend to the PEB that you be returned to duty and if the PEB agrees you will resume your service obligation where you left off. If it has stabilized or a certain number of years have passed they will recommend that you be moved to the PDLR and given a permanent rating which could be higher or lower than the one that you had on the TDLR.

§4.129 Mental disorders due to traumatic stress posted:

When a mental disorder that develops in service as a result of a highly stressful event is severe enough to bring about the veteran’s release from active military service, the rating agency shall assign an evaluation of not less than 50 percent and schedule an examination within the six month period following the veteran’s discharge to determine whether a change in evaluation is warranted. (Authority: 38 U.S.C. 1155)
http://www.benefits.va.gov/WARMS/do...%20to%20129.doc

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!



Delizin posted:

So for the same condition on different limbs it is rated as a bilateral condition: http://www.benefits.va.gov/warms/do...PART4/S4_26.doc

If they don't give you 30%, appeal before you get out. First go through the VASRD and look for any conditions that you forgot to include in your medboard then if you find anything new that you can backup with medical evidence you can demand a formal PEB and ask that those conditions be included. You can also ask that any conditions that were not disqualifying be changed to disqualifying if you can support it with AR 40-501, Standards of Medical Fitness. Then you can also appeal any ratings you receive from the VA once before you get out. The VASRD will tell you the requirements to get a rating changed from 10% to 30%, etc.

You mentioned PTSD earlier which has some special rules that will likely result in you being given TDLR instead of PDLR. In this case you will have to see a VA doctor every so often and they will determine if your condition has improved, worsened or stabilized. If it has improved they can recommend to the PEB that you be returned to duty and if the PEB agrees you will resume your service obligation where you left off. If it has stabilized or a certain number of years have passed they will recommend that you be moved to the PDLR and given a permanent rating which could be higher or lower than the one that you had on the TDLR.

http://www.benefits.va.gov/WARMS/do...%20to%20129.doc

TDLR is only if PTSD is a disqualifying factor. Since mine is not (it could have been) it will allow me PDRL. That document is good though. Bilateral would combine the two percentages and then add 10% of that condition. So if my legs were at 20% each, it would come out to 20+20= 40 + 10%= 44% That's nifty. I'm also drat sure going to dispute it if I don't hit 30.

Thanks for the help though! 30% is just permanent medical care for me right? Not my family?

Soulex fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Feb 10, 2016

Delizin
Nov 9, 2005

It may not be interracial, but it is black and white.

Soulex posted:

Thanks for the help though! 30% is just permanent medical care for me right? Not my family?

Family too! You are essentially given the same retirement benefits as someone who did 20 years, just with less money.

For the bilateral, a 20% rating for each leg would only be combined to 36% then the 10% would be added to that for a total of 42%. That would then be rounded down to a final rating of 40% if you have no other conditions rated since anything >5 is rounded down and 5 or higher is rounded up to the next 10 as the final step. This is described in §4.25.

Delizin fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Feb 10, 2016

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!



Delizin posted:

Family too! You are essentially given the same retirement benefits as someone who did 20 years, just with less money.

For the bilateral, a 20% rating for each leg would only be combined to 36% then the 10% would be added to that for a total of 42%. That would then be rounded down to a final rating of 40% if you have no other conditions rated since anything >5 is rounded down and 5 or higher is rounded up to the next 10 as the final step. This is described in §4.25.

That's only failing conditions right? Or is that everything all included? I know the VA is everything but I think the Army is just failing conditions.

Delizin
Nov 9, 2005

It may not be interracial, but it is black and white.

Army is just conditions that disqualify you for service as described in AR 40-501. That will determine whether or not you are retired or separated with compensation and that is where you want to get at least your 30% for retirement or you lose a ton of benefits including health care for your family.

If you do end up needing to appeal, I very highly recommend that you do it in person with a formal PEB. If you do that, DO NOT get JAG to represent you at the hearing.

Instead contact the DAV at Fort Sam in San Antonio to represent you. You will have to go TDY to Fort Sam for the formal PEB and the DAV rep there that handles PEBs is a wizard. He is a retired 1SG and knew all the board members personally and was able to get my poo poo straightened out with 0 hassle.

goodness
Jan 3, 2012

When the light turns green, you go. When the light turns red, you stop. But what do you do when the light turns blue with orange and lavender spots?


Question about a credit card: I have never had one before but I am trying to get one now. My dad is a veteran and he got my brother one through their service, is that card actually good to use over some other basic one?

Diarrhea Elemental
Apr 2, 2012

Am I correct in my assumption, you fish-faced enemy of the people?

goodness posted:

Question about a credit card: I have never had one before but I am trying to get one now. My dad is a veteran and he got my brother one through their service, is that card actually good to use over some other basic one?

Depends on the bank you're using now. USAA and Navy Fed are both great credit unions, have a bunch of cool and convenient poo poo from their respective smartphone apps, and in my experience have had a hair trigger for jumping up peoples poo poo when something sketchy (ie outside of your usual spending patterns and/or geography) gets put on your card.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?


Things to pay attention to are the interest rate (after the introductory period), rewards points/partners, and annual fees (why is this even still a thing?). There are probably others, but that's mostly what I look at.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002

~c u at the crossroads~


Slippery Tilde

*DO NOT GET A MILITARY STAR CARD*

I mean I don't know if they are bad or not, I just know that 99% of soldiers don't pay them and the CO gets a letter

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!



Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

*DO NOT GET A MILITARY STAR CARD*

I mean I don't know if they are bad or not, I just know that 99% of soldiers don't pay them and the CO gets a letter

Also, to my knowledge, the star card will only count AGAINST your credit rating. Making payments will not help it.

If you are struggling with credit do this easy thing right here.

1) Get your annual free credit report at any of the big 3, like Experian
2) Dispute EVERYTHING NEGATIVE on your account
3) If the companies do not respond within the mandated 30 days, it will be erased from your record
4) After 30 days, feel free to check back in. Typically, Experian or someone will offer free months to keep you subscribed.

My result: I paid a one month subscription for my credit stuff, ended up with 3 months. My credit went from 450 something to 620 in a month because of what I did above.

Anything will fall off after 7 years, so even if they do respond, it's just a matter of time before it goes away.





OK. My turn to ask a question:

Can VOC REHAB and the 9/11 GI Bill be used at the same time?
What are some good things to look into as a medically retired vet going to college?
I bought my house with USAA and used my VA loan to get it. I now need to start to sell my house which I'll do through USAA. Is there anything to help protect me if I can't sell it in time that I move to San Diego? Can the VA loan be used more than once? If not, what other options are there?
What should I focus on benefits wise as a soldier being medically discharged from the military?

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Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?


VA loan: The VA guarantees up to a certain dollar amount, which basically takes the place of the mandatory down payment. If you didn't make use of that entire guaranteed amount (you almost certainly did, because you would have to intentionally do otherwise) you've technically still got some of it available. Basically, you probably can't use your VA loan to buy right now because you're (probably) already using the entire thing. You'll have to sell, refinance, or find some other way to get rid of the loan or convert it to something else to free up your VA benefit.

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