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NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Leperflesh posted:

Except they literally just released new Tau models, right? If their grand plan is to stop developing new models for anything that isn't a [chaos]space marine, why go to the expense of making brand new molds for a new big tau plastic kit?

They literally just released Treeman models and a bunch of other poo poo for Warhammer Fantasy, and then canned it within a year. The minis are still on sale (in new boxes), with digital rule sheets for the new game, even though the old game is dead. I'm saying this is what's about to happen to 40k, and all signs - and precedent - point that way.

Serious Gaylord has even said they went to the expense of sculpting an entire new Brettonian army, which will now never see the light of day.

NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 08:07 on Nov 13, 2015

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Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Well, "within a year" and "last month" are two different things. This forgeworld team tasked with working on specialist games is clearly a very recent decision that was only just announced internally. I don't think over a year ago when they made new wood elfs they had fully committed at that point to exactly what Age of Sigmar was going to be, beyond doing a lot of work on sigmarine models. Kirby was also still the CEO.

TheCosmicMuffet
Jun 21, 2009

by Shine
Is agility a problem for this toy company. Hmmph.

I've been on mismanaged projects far more expensive and misguided than this. :smug:

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Leperflesh posted:

I don't think over a year ago when they made new wood elfs they had fully committed at that point to exactly what Age of Sigmar was going to be, beyond doing a lot of work on sigmarine models. Kirby was also still the CEO.

I disagree completely. Their product development takes 2 years from concept to launch, I think we can be absolutely certain they knew what AoS was going to be, and what was happening to WHFB, well before all the new End Times stuff started hitting retail.

While this new Forgeworld team may not be far along, their plans for turning 40k into a heresy era all-marine and chaos mirror of Age of Sigmar was either developed alongside AoS, or came later on during the AoS development when it was looking, internally, like the greatest idea in history.

NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 08:58 on Nov 13, 2015

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

NTRabbit posted:

Serious Gaylord has even said they went to the expense of sculpting an entire new Brettonian army, which will now never see the light of day.

No I didnt. I said I wouldnt be surprised if theres models for the range that could have been, not that they did.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Could've sworn you had :crossarms:

Still, doesn't change that they knew everything WHFB released during the End Time period was for a game they were about to kill.

Moola
Aug 16, 2006
yeah you guys need to stop applying logic to potential GW decisions

they more like a dog that just sort of randomly starts rolling on its back for an hour then looks at you like "...what?"

Treser
Sep 2, 2013

It's not supposed to be safe

A few of us at my FLGS were pretty drat excited about specialist games coming back until we found out Forgeworld would be handling it. We all had a collective "well gently caress that" moment when we heard Forgeworld. I also will assume that even though it is Forgeworld, they will still manage to gently caress up Blood Bowl by completely ignoring the NAF rules and go off their own bullshit that doesn't work.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Moola posted:

yeah you guys need to stop applying logic to potential GW decisions

they more like a dog that just sort of randomly starts rolling on its back for an hour then looks at you like "...what?"

:agreed: I think the best tool for figuring out GW's direction isn't a compass but a wobbly cat. Except wobbly cats are adorable and don't actively try to maim you.

Taear
Nov 26, 2004

Ask me about the shitty opinions I have about Paradox games!
One of the best parts of Epic was the Squat armies, it's the only place that they truly worked.

And the Chaos Primarchs too. I guess you won't be able to have them because now they'll be normal marine sized!

Not a viking
Aug 2, 2008

Feels like I just got laid

Chill la Chill posted:

:agreed: I think the best tool for figuring out GW's direction isn't a compass but a wobbly cat. Except wobbly cats are adorable and don't actively try to maim you.

Have you ever owned a cat?

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Not a viking posted:

Have you ever owned a cat?

I box with my cat and she is cool and good. Doesn't knock anything over or perch in precarious positions, unlike GW.

The Supreme Court
Feb 25, 2010

Pirate World: Nearly done!

Nash posted:

I hope this gets me a dreadfleet expansion. Yes, I like dreadfleet. :colbert:

I'd love a Dreadfleet expansion for some new models, but the rules would go straight back on eBay as it's irredeemable garbage.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Going back the Blood Bowl Team Manager I think the game is solid, but the teams themselves aren't really balanced super well. Also which abilities you randomly draw in the early game will have a huge affect on how successful you are at the end. Having said that it's much more fun than actual Blood Bowl.

Moola
Aug 16, 2006

Not a viking posted:

Have you ever owned a cat?

cats are cool

so are dogs

animals are great!

Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012




:siren:DO NOT GIVE CATS AND DOGS GW:siren:

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



I guess mordheim is too much like aos?

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!

JerryLee posted:


2a) If you enjoy the Horus Heresy/40k generally but didn't want to support said toxic corporation, you're probably already all-in on communism, so this release doesn't really add that much for you.


Reading the new death thread, I like his euphemism for Chinese recasters (though the Russians are now recasting the fuckhuge titan for a piddly $1k).

JerryLee
Feb 4, 2005

THE RESERVED LIST! THE RESERVED LIST! I CANNOT SHUT UP ABOUT THE RESERVED LIST!

Business Gorillas posted:

I guess mordheim is too much like aos?

Wouldn't want a system that people might want to play to siphon off customers from the system that nobody wants to play

Attestant
Oct 23, 2012

Don't judge me.

Business Gorillas posted:

I guess mordheim is too much like aos?

I think doing anything Old World would be an admission of defeat for them at this stage.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


I was gonna say they wouldn't want their game getting customers from people that liked the PC version but apparently that game is rear end so maybe not that...

JerryLee
Feb 4, 2005

THE RESERVED LIST! THE RESERVED LIST! I CANNOT SHUT UP ABOUT THE RESERVED LIST!
I wonder if, when they go to remake the specialist games, they'll rename everything to hilarious word salad in the belief that it acts as a talisman against anyone trying to sell generic sci-fi punk or "fantasy football" miniatures.

Gangforged Hivejuven

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



JerryLee posted:

I wonder if, when they go to remake the specialist games, they'll rename everything to hilarious word salad in the belief that it acts as a talisman against anyone trying to sell generic sci-fi punk or "fantasy football" miniatures.
Realizing this is going to happen is just the best darn thing

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


Can't wait until they rename Tau because they realize you can't trademark a letter in the Greek alphabet.

Clovenfoot Firewarriors incoming.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

Drone posted:

Can't wait until they rename Tau because they realize you can't trademark a letter in the Greek alphabet.

Clovenfoot Firewarriors incoming.

Apple.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Drone posted:

Can't wait until they rename Tau because they realize you can't trademark a letter in the Greek alphabet.

Clovenfoot Firewarriors incoming.

Hell ya now they'll be the space beast men instead of space lizards. :3:

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

I feel my skepticism about getting any meaningful Necromunda updates comes down purely to this: I play House Escher.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

Attestant posted:

I think doing anything Old World would be an admission of defeat for them at this stage.

And they can't use it in the AoS world cos that would involve them writing some way for the sigmarines to have character and grow over time as people

Although actually I can imagine them shoehorning sigmarines into Mordheim as another warband, except when sigmarines die in the game they just come back for free in the next one

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

Are we gonna have another debate about Copyright vs Trademark again

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

Skinty McEdger posted:

I feel my skepticism about getting any meaningful Necromunda updates comes down purely to this: I play House Escher.

Don't worry, I am sure that Escher will get some finecast versions of their old metal figures to go along with the multipart plastic kits every other gang gets. :v:

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

MikeCrotch posted:

Are we gonna have another debate about Copyright vs Trademark again

Apple have the trademark on the word apple in its use with computers/technology. GW could reasonably have the trademark on Tau for use in Science fiction models.

Nebiros
Apr 25, 2013

The scarf is nice.
This specialists games thing almost, almost makes me want to check for Ash Waste Nomads. Then I remember I can go buy more Infinity to troll my friend's PanO list with. Better models and sane rules to boot. On a side note, found some Armageddon campaign era WD's in boxes after I moved, might have to go back and read those battle reports.

Nebiros fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Nov 13, 2015

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



I'd just like to fill out my Warmaster Dark Elves. For less than $40 - 80 / blister.

TKIY
Nov 6, 2012
Grimey Drawer

moths posted:

I'd just like to fill out my Warmaster Dark Elves. For less than $40 - 80 / blister.

My local shop still has some blisters. I've reaped the best stuff already but I can look and see what he has left.

Anything in particular you need?

Doctor Borris
May 29, 2014

Sometimes Serious.
Sometimes Satirical.
Never Ever Sarcastic.
Ever.

TKIY posted:

My local shop still has some blisters. I've reaped the best stuff already but I can look and see what he has left.

Anything in particular you need?

This always baffles me. Why don't game shops liquidate old stock more aggressively? The blisters would instantly sell on ebay for msrp.

My current FLGS has a cryx all in one that is unobtainable today, but my guy just stares at me in confusion if I mention it's oop and valuable.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Doctor Borris posted:

This always baffles me. Why don't game shops liquidate old stock more aggressively? The blisters would instantly sell on ebay for msrp.

My current FLGS has a cryx all in one that is unobtainable today, but my guy just stares at me in confusion if I mention it's oop and valuable.

In my experience they actually do the opposite: continue to hold old stock that's OOP but worthless yet still asking for MSRP for them. Thankfully the LGS that's actually ran like a business (though I don't see the owner much anymore cuz he's Sanders' campaign manager :3:) does discount old stock aggressively.

The Supreme Court
Feb 25, 2010

Pirate World: Nearly done!
Profit is anathema to otiose in a local gaming store

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"
Just make epic armies out of existing 6mm Char B1s and ww2 soldiers. It's not like anyone could tell the difference.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Nebiros posted:

This specialists games thing almost, almost makes me want to check for Ash Waste Nomads. Then I remember I can go buy more Infinity to troll my friend's PanO list with. Better models and sane rules to boot. On a side note, found some Armageddon campaign era WD's in boxes after I moved, might have to go back and read those battle reports.

Couldn't you just play Necromunda's rules with your Infinity figures? Ariadne guys would make pretty good hive gangers.

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TheCosmicMuffet
Jun 21, 2009

by Shine

Night10194 posted:

Couldn't you just play Necromunda's rules with your Infinity figures? Ariadne guys would make pretty good hive gangers.

Couldn't you just poo poo in the sink? It's got a disposal and everything.

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