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Renfield
Feb 29, 2008

Night10194 posted:

Couldn't you just play Necromunda's rules with your Infinity figures? Ariadne guys would make pretty good hive gangers.

This is what I did, but it doesn't really work with the 'True Line Of Sight' rules and real-scale models vs HEROIC Scale ones.

Why not play infinity with your necromunda minis ?

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moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



TKIY posted:

Anything in particular you need?

Any Dark Elf blisters they've got would be appreciated!

TKIY
Nov 6, 2012
Grimey Drawer

moths posted:

Any Dark Elf blisters they've got would be appreciated!

I was actually there and didn't see any. He has another box of Warmaster blisters but didn't want to be bothered getting it out if I wasn't buying right that second.

Let me be clear, this man is certifiably insane.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



Oh dang. Well if the other box has DElfs I'll take whatever you can get.

Or even some of the oddball Chaos stuff (spawn or harpies), or Daemons holy poo poo those are hard to find.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Doctor Borris posted:

This always baffles me. Why don't game shops liquidate old stock more aggressively? The blisters would instantly sell on ebay for msrp.

My current FLGS has a cryx all in one that is unobtainable today, but my guy just stares at me in confusion if I mention it's oop and valuable.

Which Cryx blister is that?

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



Terrible Opinions posted:

Which Cryx blister is that?
The all in one. Looks like this: http://privateerpress.com/warmachine/gallery/starter-products/all-in-one-army-boxes/warmachine-all-in-one-army-box-cryx

TKIY
Nov 6, 2012
Grimey Drawer

moths posted:

Oh dang. Well if the other box has DElfs I'll take whatever you can get.

Or even some of the oddball Chaos stuff (spawn or harpies), or Daemons holy poo poo those are hard to find.

I'll go back next week and see if he's got his panties unbunched.

FrostyPox
Feb 8, 2012

In response to "Why did Warhammer fail?"

Some dude on Dakka posted:

When I left gw in September of last year, fantasy accounted for around 7% of sales. It was dead. People had armies that they occasionally added to with new army books, but few new gamers got into it, and few existing players regularly bought new armies. It just didn't make money. Plus, don't forget that they had had 8 attempts at creating a solid rule set with balanced armies. They couldn't do it. The rules writers blame the community for deliberately trying to break the game with op lists (which they did, but in fairness more thorough playtesting, or beta testing involving the community would have resolved).

In the end, we vote with our wallets. Whfb just wasn't getting the votes.


quote:

The rules writers blame the community for deliberately trying to break the game with op lists


I don't know if this guy is telling the truth or not, but I 100% believe that GW's rules writers absolutely would blame players for breaking the game, instead of thinking to themselves "Man, we really wrote some lovely rules, maybe we should do better and if we can't, hire people who can do better."

Litterbox
Nov 9, 2004
9th Age hype!

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




His "when I left GW" reads like someone claiming they worked in the video games industry because they had a job at EB.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.
I took it to mean 'when I left the company'.

muggins
Mar 3, 2008

I regard the death and mangling of a couple thousand toy soldiers as a small affair, a kind of morning dash
Is anyone getting into Beyond the Gates of Antares? I'm really digging it and wondering if there is a thread I can discuss it in.

Doctor Borris
May 29, 2014

Sometimes Serious.
Sometimes Satirical.
Never Ever Sarcastic.
Ever.

Terrible Opinions posted:

Which Cryx blister is that?

PP released amazing and good army boxes for all factions. They are strong armies with lots of synergy, in some cases they even put in the key merc models who gave good buffs. The whole bundle sold for well below msrp even before discounts were considered.

They didn't make a lot though, and you can't even get them on ebay or amazon anymore. I have a menoth and cephalyx one I've been meaning to put up one of these days, and they seem to be priced at a point you could buy one at msrp and make a couple bucks.

In GW news, the new box set is a... reasonable price for that many marines. Getting multiple 35 dollar transports for them will gently caress your wallet quick, but I suppose with the strength of the current codex you could whip up something competitive involving feet on the ground. I assume the rules would only cost 200 to 300 dollars which seems reasonable to get into a game.

According to many posts on Dakkadakka or BOLS the board game is literally the best thing ever.

Doctor Borris fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Nov 13, 2015

Thirsty Dog
May 31, 2007

Chill la Chill posted:

Lol why would you ever recast a tiny niche of a niche game instead of the popular line everyone loves?

Because there's a decent market for it. Check out the Tac Comms forum sometime.

BeigeJacket
Jul 21, 2005

muggins posted:

Is anyone getting into Beyond the Gates of Antares? I'm really digging it and wondering if there is a thread I can discuss it in.

Oh, it's very good indeed. I went to a launch day event last sat and had a loving blast. Going in deep on this one.

It actually plays out very differently to Bolt Action - Priestly has modded the rules a ton. No thread on the forums yet but it's only been out a week and, if successful, will need some time for word of mouth to do its job.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

Doctor Borris posted:

PP released amazing and good army boxes for all factions. They are strong armies with lots of synergy, in some cases they even put in the key merc models who gave good buffs. The whole bundle sold for well below msrp even before discounts were considered.

They didn't make a lot though, and you can't even get them on ebay or amazon anymore. I have a menoth and cephalyx one I've been meaning to put up one of these days, and they seem to be priced at a point you could buy one at msrp and make a couple bucks.

In GW news, the new box set is a... reasonable price for that many marines. Getting multiple 35 dollar transports for them will gently caress your wallet quick, but I suppose with the strength of the current codex you could whip up something competitive involving feet on the ground. I assume the rules would only cost 200 to 300 dollars which seems reasonable to get into a game.

According to many posts on Dakkadakka or BOLS the board game is literally the best thing ever.

I haven't read the rules but the lets play video video and the snippets of rules on the web make it look like the game has a serious FFG feel.

Gravy Train Robber
Sep 15, 2007

by zen death robot
FFG is obviously competing with GW, and with GW's own IP! GW should clearly take back the board game rights and dump them into their new specialist games division.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




serious gaylord posted:

I took it to mean 'when I left the company'.

Yes, but I think what he left was a job in one of the stores, rather than in the studio, like those people who talk knowingly about working in the video game industry until you find out they just had a retail job in an EB store.

NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 05:04 on Nov 14, 2015

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



If the game's actually good, you'll be able to buy it for probably $5 (minus the figures) and just play with chits or tokens.

Its Rinaldo
Aug 13, 2010

CODS BINCH
Oh man, the Death Thread is back!

I found the corporate company running information interesting! Thanks for that!

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!
For the price of a Bolt Action Army Builder Army (that comes with 'free' tank), here's the swoletemptor.



I kind of like it.

As for the whole HH thing, I like Space Marines, but I don't really want to fight other Space Marines, even if HH Marines are a frontline shock army instead of quasi special forces that GW denies are special forces. Somehow, when you band Marines in 20 man squads, they lose some of that 'knight' coolness. But God help me is FW making some sweet rear end stuff that at least I view as well painted. Those pre-heresy Deathguard and Word Bearers... Well, lucky for me, I'll never play them, even if Chairman Mao's help.

But yeah, I don't want hot Marine on Marine action Epic or BFG or whatever. While HH BFG would have the benefits of No Tau and No Nids (I just hate the factions), I wouldn't be happy with just Space Marine Space Battles. On the other hand, if I can get me at least one Emp Class Battleship as a sexy pin up model to place on a cupboard, I'd be happy.

It's a pity that Calth isn't closer to something like Space Crusade or something. Like, two squads of click-to (whatever you call those three piece marines) and some rules for maps made from cardboard stuff (so like Space Crusade, Space Hulk, Imperial Assault) would make for a good starter and the Rock Paper Shotgun guy wouldn't have to lie about the fun assembly stuff. Heck, if they included tiny basic paint pots and a basic paintbrush... No, this is too beautiful and painful to think about. Hold me, thread.

Not spreading rumours about new and improved Imperial Aeronautics to steal X-Wing's thunder? Stupid move! I'd be so hype if my girlfriend was blowing my thunderbolts instead of/along with my X-wings.

And to reiterate something I said in the good ol' death thread, you don't go playing/buying other, better games because you don't give a poo poo about any of the lore or factions of DZC/FsA/Malifaux/WMH/etc. I don't want to play miniatures simply to play miniatures and I won't spent limited resources on stuff I don't care about,no matter how cool the Cygnar trenchers are.

Speaking of which, how is the new Warzone stuff?

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

NTRabbit posted:

Yes, but I think what he left was a job in one of the stores, rather than in the studio, like those people who talk knowingly about working in the video game industry until you find out they just had a retail job in an EB store.

He would have access to sales figures from working in the store though. It routinely gets spoken about at the meetings.

Bistromatic
Oct 3, 2004

And turn the inner eye
To see its path...
oh hey, i had no idea the death thread had risen from the grave. let's hope the crab guy doesn't find it

JcDent posted:

And to reiterate something I said in the good ol' death thread, you don't go playing/buying other, better games because you don't give a poo poo about any of the lore or factions of DZC/FsA/Malifaux/WMH/etc. I don't want to play miniatures simply to play miniatures and I won't spent limited resources on stuff I don't care about,no matter how cool the Cygnar trenchers are.

honestly, i have quite a bit of nostalgia for BFG but i don't have it in me to care about the setting at all anymore, it just feels like a stale mess without direction. Almost everything i've seen and heard from GWs franchises is completely unappealing to me, if not on it's own then because of the terrible rules and prices that go with it. I mean the ghostkeel looks kinda neat but what am i going to do with it?

Also a few weeks ago i was at a dropzone tournament and toward the evening a bunch of guys showed up at the hobby club and started playing 40k. i had no idea how loving huge the models had gotten for that. There probably was some forgeworld stuff in there too but the things were as big as entire city blocks in dropzone, and standing on dinner sized plates. I seriously don't get the appeal of that. i already wasn't thrilled when warmachine introduced battle engines and colossals, it's just so completely impractical for transport, handling and gameplay. The deathjack or behemoth is about the largest i'd want a mini to be personally so you can still reasonably maneuver them with one hand, if you want to make larger things just pick a smaller scale.

Antinumeric
Nov 27, 2010

BoxGiraffe

NTRabbit posted:

His "when I left GW" reads like someone claiming they worked in the video games industry because they had a job at EB.

With its Ten Commandments and bizarre company structure I can understand why he'd feel closer to the creators than you'd expect from a store peon.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!

Bistromatic posted:

honestly, i have quite a bit of nostalgia for BFG but i don't have it in me to care about the setting at all anymore, it just feels like a stale mess without direction.

Well, what can I say. I like reading old fluff and old rulebooks, and I love me some gothic spess stuff with space knights, space militia, space elves and such. Wouldn't mind space elves, either.

By size, the game would be better with HoR Kill Team to Combat Patrol size, I guess. And an another ruleset. Not that it matters, I'll take my minis and play Marines on Fubar, Stargrunt II, No Stars In Sight, Bolter Action, basically anything if they "feel right".

Modded infinity would be cool for Munda and Morka, methinks.

The big things you saw were probably knights on MC bases. MC bases are oval and as such pig disgusting. Individual bading bases should be either perfectly round or square. I'm giving cav the stinkeye.

Renfield
Feb 29, 2008

JcDent posted:

The big things you saw were probably knights on MC bases. MC bases are oval and as such pig disgusting. Individual bading bases should be either perfectly round or square. I'm giving cav the stinkeye.

Imperial Knights, Eldar Wrathknights, Tau Riptides and Stormsurges.. all plain GW - no need to go near ForgeWorld.
They've been going Bigger / Faster / More for a few years now, with no end in sight.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!

Renfield posted:

Imperial Knights, Eldar Wrathknights, Tau Riptides and Stormsurges.. all plain GW - no need to go near ForgeWorld.
They've been going Bigger / Faster / More for a few years now, with no end in sight.

Anything bigger than a dread and smaller than a titan is bad. The knights are cool, but they only taunting cats to topple them over on a todler.

If anyone ever built an Emp class (is that the largest one, no model and all) it would be a cat playground on itself

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



It's funny, with what looks like an actual good value(?) I was actually looking at what it would else it would take to get into 30k (with Emperor's Children:)

Warhammer 40,000 rulebook $85
Horus Heresy boxed set - $150
or maybe EMPEROR'S CHILDREN TASK FORCE £225 (+ 15% shipping) (~$342.75 USD)
Horus Heresy Book One - £74 (+ 15% shipping) (~$114.25 USD)
or maybe? THE HORUS HERESY LEGION ASTARTES GAMERS COLLECTION £55 (+15% shipping) (~$96.50 USD)

This is loving bonkers. I couldn't find the softcover rulebook, or the mini-book on the GW site, the closest I came was the $69 eBook version (LOL, loving nope.) Even if I were a trust-fund manchild without adult expenses, it took searching two different websites to best-guess what I'd need, and I'm still unsure what books contain the EC army list or any HH specific rules. To be fair, I could cut some of the shipping if I manage to order £250+, but that would require buying the $350 task force - Which is just the Calth boxed set with EC torsos, shoulderpads, and heads.

And then I'd still need to find a local opponent I could tolerate.

So yeah, no.

Ilor
Feb 2, 2008

That's a crit.

JcDent posted:

On the other hand, if I can get me at least one Emp Class Battleship as a sexy pin up model to place on a cupboard, I'd be happy.

You mean like this? :smug:

Regardless of whether or not I get rid of any of my old 40K poo poo, I am resolved to keep my BFG fleet.

That's an Emperor and Retribution battleships, two cruisers (forget which ones), two Dauntless light cruisers, 3x Firestorms, 6x Swords, 4x Cobras, and a Space Marine Strike Cruiser (Salamanders, natch). I actually have something like 6 more Imperial Cruisers that aren't painted.

And in case it looks like this fleet is a little heavy on ordnance and weapons batteries, it's because most of my games were against fellow goon selnaric's stupid freaking "you can't catch me" Eldar. :argh:

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!

Ilor posted:


You mean like this? :smug:

:gonk: :stwoon:

I'd learn Forestorm Armada in a heartbeat if I had those and Armada had any presense where I am

Bistromatic
Oct 3, 2004

And turn the inner eye
To see its path...
Use them with the Dropfleet rules when they come out, it's made by Andy Chambers too and the PHR cruisers pretty much have the same weapon layout as Imperial ones :v:

My fleet is currently packed away but considering they were the about the first things i ever painted they're pretty bad anyway. Maybe i'll try to strip and repaint them one day.

TKIY
Nov 6, 2012
Grimey Drawer

moths posted:

It's funny, with what looks like an actual good value(?) I was actually looking at what it would else it would take to get into 30k (with Emperor's Children:)

Warhammer 40,000 rulebook $85
Horus Heresy boxed set - $150
or maybe EMPEROR'S CHILDREN TASK FORCE £225 (+ 15% shipping) (~$342.75 USD)
Horus Heresy Book One - £74 (+ 15% shipping) (~$114.25 USD)
or maybe? THE HORUS HERESY LEGION ASTARTES GAMERS COLLECTION £55 (+15% shipping) (~$96.50 USD)

This is loving bonkers. I couldn't find the softcover rulebook, or the mini-book on the GW site, the closest I came was the $69 eBook version (LOL, loving nope.) Even if I were a trust-fund manchild without adult expenses, it took searching two different websites to best-guess what I'd need, and I'm still unsure what books contain the EC army list or any HH specific rules. To be fair, I could cut some of the shipping if I manage to order £250+, but that would require buying the $350 task force - Which is just the Calth boxed set with EC torsos, shoulderpads, and heads.

And then I'd still need to find a local opponent I could tolerate.

So yeah, no.

Ironically 30k is cheaper than 40k if you have a low opinion of copyright laws and are willing to deal with communists.

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine
They showed off the characters for the upcoming Gundam series, Gundam Thunderbolt. Lotta augmetics



and a teeny tiny commercial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebypW7dQ9jo

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


Another Gundam prototype in 0079? They're worse than GW adding in more fancy things for Space Marines. :v:

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine

Galaga Galaxian posted:

Another Gundam prototype in 0079? They're worse than GW adding in more fancy things for Space Marines. :v:

It's not really a prototype, it's just an RX-78 with a lot of poo poo added on top to let it operate and not be instantly destroyed in a space debris field.

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


So where'd they get another RX-78 from? :v: The production run of those just keeps balooning.

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine

Galaga Galaxian posted:

So where'd they get another RX-78 from? :v: The production run of those just keeps balooning.

There was what, two or three operational when Zeon attacked Side 7? Plus the twenty or so Ground Types they made separately.

honestly though, Without the Core Fighter and the Learning Computer it's not much more than a GM with two eyes and a v-fin. There's no reason they couldn't just slap a few more together

JerryLee
Feb 4, 2005

THE RESERVED LIST! THE RESERVED LIST! I CANNOT SHUT UP ABOUT THE RESERVED LIST!

TKIY posted:

Ironically 30k is cheaper than 40k if you have a low opinion of copyright laws and are willing to deal with communists.

Well, under that set of circumstances, 40k can be pretty cheap too!

Kore_Fero
Jan 31, 2008

Ilor posted:


You mean like this? :smug:

Whatup blue-n-white fleetbro?

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JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!

TKIY posted:

Ironically 30k is cheaper than 40k if you have a low opinion of copyright laws and are willing to deal with communists.

I would be such a scummy person! However, I really dislike the smell you get when filing those things. I can probably stand some flash/possible miscasts, especially when the sale prices are ridiculous.


Bistromatic posted:

Use them with the Dropfleet rules when they come out, it's made by Andy Chambers too and the PHR cruisers pretty much have the same weapon layout as Imperial ones :v:

My fleet is currently packed away but considering they were the about the first things i ever painted they're pretty bad anyway. Maybe i'll try to strip and repaint them one day.

And now we play the waiting game. Of the irony (I guess) when you proxy Imperium's ships for post humans.

Stripping ennobles man's soul and saves him both money and miniatures.

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