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radintorov
Feb 18, 2011

JcDent posted:

Then again, HAWX had its own version of crazy, with mercenaries taking on the US because Tom Clancy.
The best part is that not only the whole "mercenary conquers chunks of the US" is dumb, but that Artemis had every right to be pissed at the US government getting involved! :v:

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Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

radintorov posted:

The best part is that not only the whole "mercenary conquers chunks of the US" is dumb, but that Artemis had every right to be pissed at the US government getting involved! :v:

That was one of my favorite bits of HAWX's insanity: in the game's own lore and story, what Artemis is doing is legal by international law.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

:confused:

Selenephos
Jul 9, 2010

People are speculating that 7 may be a prequel to 3, with the space elevator and all. The VR gimmick would also fit in with COFFIN aircraft.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!

Cythereal posted:

That was one of my favorite bits of HAWX's insanity: in the game's own lore and story, what Artemis is doing is legal by international law.

Care to enlighten me? I think I only got as far as the F-117 mission and my memory is spotty.

Also, I think both HAWX lps on archive are down, so there's an opening for would be vidlpers.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013
Here's something interesting: https://www.flickr.com/photos/playstationblogeurope/23246535100/in/album-72157662064373545/

The Su-27s in the trailer are sporting Erusean roundels.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

JcDent posted:

Care to enlighten me? I think I only got as far as the F-117 mission and my memory is spotty.

It's not really dwelled on, but HAWX talks about the "Reykjavik Accords" which govern PMC activity around the world. The final mission has a news report talk about how the world decided Artemis had gone too far and repealed the Accords after the attack on the US.

Calax
Oct 5, 2011

I think one of the earlier missions in HAWX dealt with performing so well in a mission that the military basically got privatized. Thus when Artemis turns around and says "well, we got bought out by your enemies, ta ta!" it's perfectly legal.

Effectively the same reason that Kevin Spacey tries to take over the world in Call of Duty Advanced Warfare, or the company in Army of Two, or basically any military game that involved privatized military situations, it's just that Hawx made note that in their own world, it was technically legal.

IMJack
Apr 16, 2003

Royalty is a continuous ripping and tearing motion.


Fun Shoe

Lady, there's gotta be an easier way to commit suicide than skydiving through an air battle.

Since a space elevator would be suspended from an orbital station and not supported from the ground, it would be skydiving and not BASE jumping, wouldn't it.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

ninjahedgehog posted:

Pause it at 00:43, that Raptor definitely has the Osean roundel on its wing.

EDIT: Hot drat, and according to r/acecombat the Flanker is Erusean. Welp, guess I'm buying a PS4 then.

Maybe I'm just blind but I don't see any markings anywhere on the F-22. There is an emblem on the tower person though.

Chaotic Neutral
Aug 29, 2011

Kibayasu posted:

Maybe I'm just blind but I don't see any markings anywhere on the F-22. There is an emblem on the tower person though.
Easier to see at 0:29 - it's the OADF roundel in greyscale on the left wing.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013


The Osean Air Defense Force roundel, for reference.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013
“Juggernaut”

Mission 4: Offensive Campaign No. 4101

Overview: The Allied advance into Belkan-held territory commences with an attempt to retake the strategic shipping lane through Sapin’s Futuro Canal. Galm Team is tasked with three missions on this assignment: eliminate Belka’s anti-air defenses at the mouth of the canal, cripple Belka’s naval fleet and supply ports, and protect the Osean aircraft carrier OFS Kestrel as her fleet pushes through the canal.


Guest Commentator: I am joined for all three videos by Kadorhal. Much like Lunethex, Kadorhal knows probably waaaaaay more about the series than even I do, so once again I’m spoiled for opening guest commentators.

Kadorhal has also done LPs of Star Wars: Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy, Postal 2: A Week In Paradise, and of SWAT 3.

FYI: I’m trying instigate a “One of you LP Electrosphere so I don’t have to” feud between him and Lunethex. It doesn’t appear to be working…

Video Note: Unlike the boss fights in Mission 3, which were all in one video, this one is three full videos. That’s because Mission 4 is actually three completely different missions of which you have to choose one. And because all three missions have unique elements to them that are worth showing off in their own right, we will once again be employing “Schrödinger’s Demon Lord” and going “…yeah, sure, all thee missions happened. Whatever.”

This happens three times in Zero, so when the other two come up, expect a similar presentation to this one. Be sure to watch all three videos. I’ll know if you don’t… :toughguy:




This is going to be one of the thankfully sparser posts because despite it being a three-in-one mission, there is little really to talk about that Kadorhal or I don’t already touch on in-video.

This is the second and final time the Ace Combat series visits Sapin (barring anything that might happen in the upcoming Ace Combat 7). Futuro Canal is the coastal boundary between the Kingdom of Sapin and the Osean Federation. Coming into the mission right at the start, Osean territory is on the left, and Sapish territory is on the right.

FUTURO
I was wrong last time. This is probably gonna be the quickest gloss in the LP. Futuro=Future in Spanish. Because Sapin = Spain. Class dismissed :eng101:


THE KESTREL

This is gonna be more of a “Watch This Space”-style gloss, but a big part of this mission is in fact the Kestrel herself.

The OFS Kestrel (CNV-30) is a newly christened and deployed state-of-the-art Osean Hubert-class aircraft carrier and flagship of the Osean Navy’s Third Fleet on the southern front of the counterstrike operations, stationed in Oured Bay. Offensive Campaign No. 4101’s Operations Gelnikos, Round Hammer, and Costner were considered her official “sea trials” to test her operational capabilities. Upon completion of combat operations in Oured Bay, she is scheduled to be delivered to Port St. Hewlett Naval Base to join the Osean Navy’s Pacific Fleet. Her current commanding officer is Captain Weeker.

The Kestrel’s appearance in this mission of Zero is one of a number of continuity cameos from Ace Combat 5. For those of you who are coming into this LP without any knowledge of the other games in the series, you’re at disadvantage here while others will be able to smile snicker with their foreknowledge. I’m not going into anything about the ship beyond what we see here in Zero, but just keep her in mind as we head further into the series. Her true time to shine is still far ahead of her.

From a real world perspective, her fleet catalog number, CNV-30 appears to imply that the Kestrel is a nuclear powered carrier, as the N in CNV stands for “nuclear”. That said, there’s an interesting real world contradiction at play here, as the Kestrel was modeled after the Kitty Hawk-class aircraft carrier, and Kitty Hawks were not nuclear powered. The USS Kitty Hawk herself bore the fleet number CV-63. No N in sight. As for the name, a Kestrel is the blanket name given to several species of falcons. They’re also commonly referred to as “windhovers,” a name that will also show up a few games down the line.




MISSION 4B – Operation Round Hammer


026
Monika Starke
"Bachstelze"
27, Female, Belka
04.24.95 Operation Round Hammer - Killed In Action
F/A-18C Hornet
Difficulty: Any
Ace Style: N/A

After graduating from the Belkan Air Force Academy, she enrolled in the Belkan Air Force, where during the war, her duty was to protect installations along the Futuro Canal. Her military records, along with that of her brother Fredi Starke, was heavy appraised.


027
Heiko Reck
"Gabel 1"
29, Male, Belka
04.24.95 Operation Round Hammer - Killed In Action
F-5E Tiger II
Difficulty: Any
Ace Style: N/A

Flying in Gabel Squadron's number one, his duty was to control air superiority over the Futuro Canal. Together with Schakal and Postler Squadrons, they were known as The Winds of Futuro, and formed the backbone of Belkan air superiority throughout the front. He was killed in battle during Operation Round Hammer.


028
Fredi Starke
"Gabel 2"
30, Male, Belka
04.24.95 Operation Round Hammer - Killed In Action
F-5E Tiger II
Difficulty: Any
Ace Style: N/A

He is the grandson of the top 1940's Belkan ace Jonas Starke. Graduating from the Air Force Academy with honors, he protected the fleet on the Futuro Canal as Gabel's number two. He was shot down and killed during Operation Round Hammer.


029
Hugo Parcham
"Moewe"
29, Male, Belka
04.24.95 Operation Round Hammer - Killed In Action
F-35C Lightning II
Difficulty: Ace
Ace Style: N/A

Assigned to the Belkan Navy, he became their top ace from 1990 to 1995. During the assault on the Futuro Canal, he was given the duty of intercepting Galm Flight. During the conflict, he managed to take off from the aircraft carrier Njord, but was later shot down.

MISSION 4A – Operation Gelnikos


030
Markus Schuster
"Elch"
40, Male, Belka
04.24.95 Operation Gelnikos - Shot Down
F-15C Eagle
Difficulty: Easy
Ace Style: N/A

He was arrested for committing wartime human rights abuses against civilians. An international military tribunal handed him a 136-year sentence along with the approbation of all assets. No matter what pardon he seeks, it certainly will not come in his lifetime.


031
Marco Metzelder
"Schakal 1"
29, Male, Belka
04.24.95 Operation Gelnikos - Shot Down
Mirage 2000D
Difficulty: Hard
Ace Style: N/A

After the war, he retired from the Belkan Air Force and returned home where services for returning veterans provided him with the means to attend the University of Dinsmark as an economic major. He now works at a private firm in the city of Sudentor.


032
Jorg Lenhmann
"Schakal 2"
31, Male, Belka
04.24.95 Operation Gelnikos - Killed In Action
Mirage 2000D
Difficulty: Hard
Ace Style: N/A

Retiring from the Belkan Air Force in 1988, he became a mercenary pilot. He fought in various fronts around the world but returned to the Belkan Air Force at the war's outbreak. He was hit by enemy fire in a battle over the Futuro Canal and was killed.


033
Rudolph Haber
"Hundert"
27, Male, Belka
04.24.95 Operation Gelnikos - Shot Down
X-29A
Difficulty: Ace
Ace Style: N/A

Experiencing combat in the Belkan War, he proved himself on the Ustio war front. Although young, he boasted the highest war record among the Belkan Force's 9th Air Division. He now works at his brother Otto Haber's telecommunications company, Townsend Corporation.

MISSION 4C – Operation Costner


034
Daniel Bierofka
"Wetterhahn"
29, Male, Belka
04.24.95 Operation Costner - Shot Down
F-1
Difficulty: Any
Ace Style: N/A

He was to bomb the Osean fleet during the assault on the Futuro Canal, but was shot down by Galm Flight while searching for an opening in the fleet's defenses. After the war he found work as an automobile salesman, and is currently passing his days as an ordinary citizen.


035
Dietmar Wolf
"Absender"
33, Male, Belka
04.24.95 Operation Costner - Shot Down
Tornado GR.4
Difficulty: Any
Ace Style: N/A

He was shot down and captured by Allied Forces in an aerial battle over the Futuro Canal, and was made a prisoner of war. After the war he was tried as a class BC war criminal. However, the charges were later dismissed due to rather dubious testimony from the prosecution. He now resides in the Kingdom of Sapin.


036
Karl Eckmann
"Postler 1"
34, Male, Belka
04.24.95 Operation Costner - Shot Down
Su-27 Flanker
Difficulty: Ace
Ace Style: N/A

The number one fighter of Postler Squadron, a squadron feared by Allied Forces as The Whirlwind. Postler Squadron's synchronous attacks became a major threat to Allied Forces on various fronts throughtout the war. He now runs a shipping company in the Principality of Belka.


037
Karl Eckmann
"Postler 2"
34, Male, Belka
04.24.95 Operation Costner - Shot Down
Su-27 Flanker
Difficulty: Ace
Ace Style: N/A

The number two fighter of Postler Squadron, a squadron feared by Allied Forces as The Whirlwind. After the war, he started a shipping company with a relative. It has since grown into the largest in North Belka.





Tracks Featured In Mission 4

nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 05:54 on Mar 25, 2016

radintorov
Feb 18, 2011
Two notes about the things discussed in the first video about AC5:
-you are the one that chooses what of the possible two missions you are assigned :v
-I remember being shocked playing one mission where I heard for the first time ever a wingman (the competent Archer mentioned by Kadorhal) telling me that he dropped a laser-guided bomb and he had the target designated with his laser. I had no idea my wingmen had more dialogue than what you usually hear. :psyduck:

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

radintorov posted:

Two notes about the things discussed in the first video about AC5:
-you are the one that chooses what of the possible two missions you are assigned :v
-I remember being shocked playing one mission where I heard for the first time ever a wingman (the competent Archer mentioned by Kadorhal) telling me that he dropped a laser-guided bomb and he had the target designated with his laser. I had no idea my wingmen had more dialogue than what you usually hear. :psyduck:

True, but the decision point isn't at the briefing screen, it's hidden in a pair of YES < >NO dialogs with Chopper in the middle of a previous mission. Because YOUR CHOICES MATTER :speculate:

Chaotic Neutral
Aug 29, 2011

nine-gear crow posted:

Because YOUR CHOICES MATTER :speculate:

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:
Two guyus in assault records have the same name. 28 and 29. Is that the game's fault?

Materant
Jul 22, 2010

see, what you don't understand is he now has

THE MANLIEST MUSTACHE

it defies physics


bunnyofdoom posted:

Two guyus in assault records have the same name. 28 and 29. Is that the game's fault?

No, that's Crow being dumb. It says a different name in the .gif:



VKing
Apr 22, 2008
Watching you attack those ships was painful.

"Okay so he shot the first destroyer with only one missile and didn't kill it, surely he won't do the same mistake twice... okay thrice... Seriously are you trying to kill these things?"

And finally you used an LGB; "The dot's on the cruiser drop it now! ... or not whatever".

Makrond
Aug 8, 2009

Now that I have all the animes, I can finally
become Emperor of Japan!
Have I just totally missed it or did you not include the interviews after B7R? You have the pictures of the aces in the post but there's nothing in the main video, and I can't find any other video links.

Skwerl
Sep 3, 2006
damn kids...

Makrond posted:

Have I just totally missed it or did you not include the interviews after B7R? You have the pictures of the aces in the post but there's nothing in the main video, and I can't find any other video links.

those happens after mission 12 I think. They did two ace encounters in a batch, which doesnt make much sense to me.
When I first played the game I thought they got cut out in localization.

Kadorhal
Jun 3, 2013

Look, just sign the stupid petition. I've got stuff to do.

nine-gear crow posted:

FYI: I’m trying instigate a “One of you LP Electrosphere so I don’t have to” feud between him and Lunethex. It doesn’t appear to be working…

To be honest I have considered it, probably the Japanese version with that Project Nemo translation because I'm insane enough to think I could pull it off, but the same thing's keeping me from actually recording it that's also kept me from doing Ace Combat 2 at any point. If Lunethex or someone else ever does it though you can bet I'll be doing everything I can to help them with it.

my F-15 obsession has turned into a general-series obsession, just wait until next week when I can afford a new PS3 to get back into Infinity and then it'll be both :tinfoil:



Also, I forgot to mention it during the video, but there was a promotional thing that came out with this game called "Confession of a Soldier", which was basically a Belkan soldier's journal detailing what he was up to as he ended up crossing paths with the Galm team at various points; the action here in Futuro was the focus of the fourth and fifth entries. Unfortunately I can't find the text, since the only source I can find that hasn't died and lost everything two or three times now (electrosphere.info :argh:) only has half of it and in the original Japanese.

Cangelosi
Nov 17, 2004

"It's cute," he said to himself warily, "but it's not normal."

Kadorhal posted:

Also, I forgot to mention it during the video, but there was a promotional thing that came out with this game called "Confession of a Soldier", which was basically a Belkan soldier's journal detailing what he was up to as he ended up crossing paths with the Galm team at various points; the action here in Futuro was the focus of the fourth and fifth entries. Unfortunately I can't find the text, since the only source I can find that hasn't died and lost everything two or three times now (electrosphere.info :argh:) only has half of it and in the original Japanese.

Yeah, I think the original Ace Combat Zero site still has some of those entries up. Electrosphere info seemed to recover the previous translations, but then went bonk again. Might be good to call in one of our Japanese talkers to piece through these.

Good Hunting!

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

Pixy will go after SAMs and AA Guns and stuff like that if set on Cover if they take a shot at you. I don't think I ever got penalized credits for stuff that he destroyed when on Attack or whatever though, since they're still listed in the end of mission screen complete with their requisite number of credits if Pixy takes them down. Like, I once saw him shoot down the last line of 4 bombers during mission 1 with an XAAM spread, and I still got credit for that.

I love doing Operation Round Hammer flying the F/A-18, especially with those LASMs you mentioned. Just shoot 'em off at those ships clustered there at the end of the Canal and not have to worry about them after that.

I've failed Operation Costner before trying to do a gun run. Just couldn't take out the swarms of enemy planes fast enough with just the gun. The Kestrel gets sunk, time paradox and all that.

Selenephos
Jul 9, 2010

Electrosphere is the last game in the timeline anyway so assuming you do the newly announced 7 as well, it's quite possible that the Project Nemo translation would be finished by then, if you feel up to doing it.

Lunethex
Feb 4, 2013

Me llamo Sarah Brandolino, the eighth Castilian of this magnificent marriage.
I have a translation to AC3 on my hard drive. I don't know what project nemo is but the one i have is finished. The only effort is adding subtitles all over the video.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013
From here out, I'm also going to be adding links to YouTube videos featuring the games' soundtracks to each update. Here's what we've got so far which I've added to each currently existing post:



Composer: Tetsukazu Nakanishi
Release: 2006
Discs: 2
Tracks: 23, 22

Tracks Featured In Mission 1 & Prologue



Tracks Featured In Mission 2


Tracks Featured In Mission 3


Tracks Featured In Mission 4


I'll also be going back and adding in in-game screenshots of all the planes as well as their ammo loadouts and hexagon stats. I'll post them in one big dump here too after I've put them in their respective posts so you don't have to go back and re-read anything you've already seen.

nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Dec 7, 2015

Dr. Snark
Oct 15, 2012

I'M SORRY, OK!? I admit I've made some mistakes, and Jones has clearly paid for them.
...
But ma'am! Jones' only crime was looking at the wrong files!
...
I beg of you, don't ship away Jones, he has a wife and kids!

-United Nations Intelligence Service

Crow, you have a track mislabeled: the 9th track is Juggernaut.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Dr. Snark posted:

Crow, you have a track mislabeled: the 9th track is Juggernaut.

Thanks for pointing that out. Sometimes you miss stuff when you're copying and pasting from templates repeatedly.

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k
I'm so tempted to hook up my PS2 again and die in this game a ton.

Akujiki
Nov 25, 2013


Just discovered this, definitely looking forward to following all of this. I woke up to the AC7 announcement this morning and I've been super excited ever since.

biosterous
Feb 23, 2013




nine-gear crow posted:

Tracks Featured In Mission 4


Yessssssss

The bass groove is excellent.

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

One of my favourite tracks from AC0 has already been featured and I'm hoping the next one will make an appearance sooner or later.

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



You dudes realise that you can just play them for fun right (electrosphere etc) and who cares where they fit in the timeline?

InfinityComplex
Feb 5, 2011

Nothing better than swinging around a little girl like a flail.

tithin posted:

You dudes realise that you can just play them for fun right (electrosphere etc) and who cares where they fit in the timeline?

Your point being?

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



InfinityComplex posted:

Your point being?

That they can play them for fun instead of not wanting to play them because they don't fit into a timeline.

I'm enjoying the LP, it's well constructed and entertaining - especially for me who's not played an ace combat past 1 & 2

If the games aren't fun, then yeah absolutely don't play them but if they're fun to play and your primary concern is that they don't fit into a timeline, well, it seems a poor reason not to play

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k
Seems like a fine reason to me when you're committed to playing 6 of em. You'd have to play 3 earlier to avoid the burnout.

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



Shinjobi posted:

Seems like a fine reason to me when you're committed to playing 6 of em. You'd have to play 3 earlier to avoid the burnout.

True enough, I'm just confused at the pushing to do the others on guest speakers because there's clearly interest there.

That said, I'm grateful for the LP, so uh, carry on :shobon:

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe
Alright, I finally got a chance to watch the video for mission 3,and you missed - or may not have known - that at least some of the ace squadrons get special abilities that grunt pilots don't.

I don't remember the details for each squadron, but I think Rot (and possibly Schwarze) get access to XMAAs or XLAAs they can huck at you from far off, and definitely one of either Grun or Indigo can dump flares to shake your standard missiles. I think Grun.The first time I fought them, I was like, they can do that?? Obviously you didn't have that problem this time through since you iced them so quickly.

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Samuel
Nov 5, 2011
I wish this LP had a sweet intro like the HAWX LP, that JAG music was so soothing.

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