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KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

Blackdog420 posted:

are there tits yet in this game?

Nah

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Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
I'd have thought that changing the water visibility would be one of the first mods done but apparently not. Trying to see anything 5 inches past your face is almost impossible.

waffles beyond waffles
Jun 22, 2008

Oh, what a day...
What a lovely day!
The mod for water clarity should be called Zebra Mussels. RIP Great Lakes.

Beef Hardcheese
Jan 21, 2003

HOW ABOUT I LASH YOUR SHIT


I'm interested in doing some modding for this game, but have no coding skills to speak of. Are there any computer languages or programs that I could study on my own, knowledge that would transfer over? I'm talking about in a broad abstract sense, like learning scripting, the basics of 3D modelling, things like that?

Vikar Jerome
Nov 26, 2013

I believe Emmanuelle is shit, though Emmanuelle 2, Emmanuelle '77 and Goodbye, Emmanuelle may be very good movies.

The Iron Rose posted:

Also on this subject, that was due to an issue with the tools right? I make my mods by copying records with TESVSnip and then editing the hex values by hand, so that shouldn't be a problem.

honestly, i think it was mostly user error, people not disabling mods and then saving the game without them then trying a new one. i think they were doing poo poo like turning off mods and switching around like crazy without a properly making sure the mod is disabled and a ton of records get hosed up.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
I am holding out for a mod that replaces all the mutants and mutated poo poo with more raiders and steps up the attacks on settlements.

gromdul posted:

The mod for water clarity should be called Zebra Mussels. RIP Great Lakes.

:golfclap:

FreelanceSocialist fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Nov 21, 2015

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
edit: wrong thread

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1754/

Alternate Start mod is here, in its first early stages. As of right now you load two bat files, one which places you at the end of the vault 111 sequence so you can do your character creation, and then another of your choosing to place you in the alternate start. Future updates will probably go to lengths to make this automatic but that'd likely require the creation tools to do.

waffles beyond waffles
Jun 22, 2008

Oh, what a day...
What a lovely day!
Note to other F4RTers. When you run the reset, the changes won't show up until you reload the game. Again, running "player.removeperk xxxxxxxx" won't visually show the changes until you reload the game.

I just F4RTed my way to a more efficient build that removed some cheating I had done earlier because I didn't know how to remove SPECIALs.

Threep
Apr 1, 2006

It's kind of a long story.

The Iron Rose posted:

Also on this subject, that was due to an issue with the tools right? I make my mods by copying records with TESVSnip and then editing the hex values by hand, so that shouldn't be a problem.
An older version of TESVSnip had a major bug causing subtle corruption - I believe it occasionally removed a few bytes at the end of records, which thanks to Bethesda's robust engine could for example manifest as memory corruption causing crashes when doing something unrelated to the mod - as well as a few other older issues due to Skyrim's esp files not being perfectly understood. Because of the nature of that bug and the esp format it's not possible to accurately detect whether it has affected a file opened with a version with the bug, so any mod made with those versions had to be remade from scratch.

I haven't touched Fallout 4 modding at all but I guess the theory is something similar might happen again.

Pretzel Rod Serling
Aug 6, 2008



Here's the thing about an alt start mod for FO4: nearly every line of dialogue audibly contradicts nearly every one of them. How would a modder even begin to fix this?

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

Pretzel Rod Stewart posted:

Here's the thing about an alt start mod for FO4: nearly every line of dialogue audibly contradicts nearly every one of them. How would a modder even begin to fix this?

N/A

Veotax
May 16, 2006


Pretzel Rod Stewart posted:

Here's the thing about an alt start mod for FO4: nearly every line of dialogue audibly contradicts nearly every one of them. How would a modder even begin to fix this?

Did FO3 alt start mods remove your dad and any dialogue relating to Vault 101?

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
Fallout 4 has the (very slight) benefit of allowing you to say "I have my own reasons for being here" or "I'm just looking around" in a lot of cases. The main plot is still the search for your son, and if you do say you're just looking around the game will act as if you're lying even with an alternate start, but it could be worse.

Ak Gara
Jul 29, 2005

That's just the way he rolls.

CJacobs posted:

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1754/

Alternate Start mod is here, in its first early stages. As of right now you load two bat files, one which places you at the end of the vault 111 sequence so you can do your character creation, and then another of your choosing to place you in the alternate start. Future updates will probably go to lengths to make this automatic but that'd likely require the creation tools to do.

Oh man alt start/role play mods where the best in F3! I liked how it let you actually be a slave, or a wasteland junkie, or some guy just scavenging for supplies, or a raider or talon company merc including being part of their faction so you're friendly to them and hostile to everyone else.

[edit] ^^ Mod Sarcasm to be always an option.

Because sarcasm is always an option.

[edit2] Imagine if you could make raider settlements and get raiders to join, and have the base be assaulted by the Minutemen and Brotherhood of Steel etc!

Ak Gara fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Nov 21, 2015

Pretzel Rod Serling
Aug 6, 2008



Veotax posted:

Did FO3 alt start mods remove your dad and any dialogue relating to Vault 101?

Nope, but people wouldn't also mention that you are the famous Vault-from dad-haver and that they've heard of him and of you and they wish you luck in finding your dad who you care about in like every conversation

surc
Aug 17, 2004

Pretzel Rod Stewart posted:

Nope, but people wouldn't also mention that you are the famous Vault-from dad-haver and that they've heard of him and of you and they wish you luck in finding your dad who you care about in like every conversation

I am on my second playthrough of FO4 and the only thing I can think of, outside of main plot discussions which center around you searching for your son, where somebody brings him up is after you do the interview in diamond city that guard comes up and says 'that line you said about [whatever choice you made about how to deal with kidnapping], I agree with it'.

E: Well, and I guess People in the institute talk about him, but that is kind of tied to the main plot anyway. Including that, I can only think of like 4 or 5 clips that aren't main-plot in the game that specifically mention you having a son.

surc fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Nov 22, 2015

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

CJacobs posted:

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1754/

Alternate Start mod is here, in its first early stages. As of right now you load two bat files, one which places you at the end of the vault 111 sequence so you can do your character creation, and then another of your choosing to place you in the alternate start. Future updates will probably go to lengths to make this automatic but that'd likely require the creation tools to do.

loving terrific. This'll get a few of my more cowardly bitch-made friends to try the game I think.

isndl
May 2, 2012
I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE

Beef Hardcheese posted:

I'm interested in doing some modding for this game, but have no coding skills to speak of. Are there any computer languages or programs that I could study on my own, knowledge that would transfer over? I'm talking about in a broad abstract sense, like learning scripting, the basics of 3D modelling, things like that?

In general, there's three broad categories for modding a Bethesda game:

1. Asset creation. This covers textures and modeling, and most of the work is done via outside tools. This stuff is so simple to implement that you don't even necessarily need the official tools to see your stuff in-game.
2. Level design. If you want to build a swanky new house for your Lone Survivor, you'll need to learn to use the Creation Kit (or whatever they're calling it this time around). You'll have to wait for the official tools to be released, but they're also pretty simple to use, it's mostly drag and drop with keyboard shortcuts to speed things up.
3. Scripting. This is where you'll want to have a bit of coding knowledge and programming mindset, which is the hardest to learn. It's also usually unnecessary until you want to start building quests and creating dynamic events, so it'll probably be the last thing you do of the three categories when making a mod from scratch. Or you're doing UI modding, which starts touching a lot on asset creation.

I think most people focus on one or two of those three categories, and people who can hit all three categories are pretty rare. If you want to get ahead as much as possible in preparation for modding Fallout 4, I would recommend studying modding tutorials and guides for Skyrim, as the engine is very similar and all the skills you learn largely transferable (to the point where current modders are hacking together plugins based on the understanding of how the file format behaves).

Kea
Oct 5, 2007

isndl posted:


I think most people focus on one or two of those three categories, and people who can hit all three categories are pretty rare. If you want to get ahead as much as possible in preparation for modding Fallout 4, I would recommend studying modding tutorials and guides for Skyrim, as the engine is very similar and all the skills you learn largely transferable (to the point where current modders are hacking together plugins based on the understanding of how the file format behaves).

This guy has it right, generally bethesda makes their geck/creation kits very similar, so skills will be largely transferable. I would advise you to grab skyrims creation kit and mess around with it, I would be incredibly surprised if its not very similar.

Songbearer
Jul 12, 2007




Fuck you say?
Just take a look at half the poo poo on the Nexus and know that that even if you're a complete rookie when it comes to modding, you can probably churn out something cooler and more interesting than Xxx CloUd_StRife_Buster Sword Replacement MoD xxX if you put enough care into it. Bethsoft games are legendary for their modding for a very good reason, compared to most games it's incredibly simple to make things work in their engine.

Inverness
Feb 4, 2009

Fully configurable personal assistant.
The chameleon effect must not have been QA'd or something because this is bonkers. Immediately after finding a chest piece that gives the effect I was attacked by a Mr. Gutsy and could not see the reflex sight on my combat rifle. :wtc:

I found a mod that removes the screen color change when you begin sneaking, but nothing yet on removing the dumb shader effect.

Edit: Also, is there any way to make the Pip Boy zoom in even further than it does when you right click? Since I set my FOV to 90, the zoomed in view is how close it has to be to be tolerable.

Inverness fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Nov 22, 2015

Kea
Oct 5, 2007
I think we all know the mod we need is to turn the atom cats into a full fledged faction.

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
Can I get a clean wires for valentine mod yet?

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE
Anybody seen a mod to just teleport junk to a settlement workshop yet?

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Kea posted:

I think we all know the mod we need is to turn the atom cats into a full fledged faction.

I bought an Atom Cats jacket from some random trader in the commonwealth who had a bunch of cat pictures and like 10 cats in her shack, poo poo owns.

Pontificating Ass
Aug 2, 2002

What Doth Life?

Ak Gara posted:

Is the sky like, an 8 bit gradient? It has quite noticeable colour banding. Would be nice if there was a way of replacing it with a 24 bit skybox or whatever the sky's made from.

That permanent white gradient towards the horizon always bothered me, Darker Nights has a few different .esp's to choose from, some that remove the "vanilla sky."

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

Harrow posted:

You are a hero.

so i have some bad news...

Kaincypher
Apr 24, 2008
Let me know when they finally mod keybinding for the NumPad and allow all junk items to be shared at every settlement. I love building settlements, i hate fast-traveling junk between settlements. And for what it's worth, either trade routes are bugged or I'm an idiot. Or both.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

The Iron Rose posted:

so i have some bad news...

:negative:

LumberingTroll
Sep 9, 2007

Really it's not because
I don't like you...

Kaincypher posted:

and allow all junk items to be shared at every settlement. I love building settlements, i hate fast-traveling junk between settlements. And for what it's worth, either trade routes are bugged or I'm an idiot. Or both.

This is already in the game, just set up supply lines.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Local Leader rank 1 is pretty much mandatory if you want to do anything with your settlements at all. If you don't have 6 Charisma, just console command yourself a rank of that. It should be baseline functionality anyway.

Magmarashi
May 20, 2009





The Iron Rose posted:

so i have some bad news...

Yeah I had my doubts it was doable without the GECK

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

I decided to just wear the Black Vest with Slacks outfit with ballistic weave. It looks decent enough, and when I need more armor than that (since I can't layer stuff on it without a mod + clipping) I just get in power armor.

I really wonder if it was just an oversight on their part that lead to so many items not having the lining slot. If it was as simple as items that already had DR not getting lining, I'd at least understand, but it's not that at all. Even different color suits aren't consistent.

clone on the phone
Aug 5, 2003

Party Plane Jones posted:

I'd have thought that changing the water visibility would be one of the first mods done but apparently not. Trying to see anything 5 inches past your face is almost impossible.

Turning off rain occlusion makes the water crystal clear for me.

BIG PUFFY NIPS
Mar 7, 2007

College Slice
Will it be possible to make a settler naming or job roster mod without the GECK? I have three 20 person settlements atm and its impossible to keep track of my dudes without putting outfits on them.

Deadmeat5150
Nov 21, 2005

OLD MAN YELLS AT CLAN
I'm trying to get the Settlement Expansion bat file to work correctly. I'm following the dude's instructions (go to workshop, bring up console, select workshop, bat settlement) but it just isn't expanding a loving thing. It worked in Sanctuary just fine but damnit I want my swamp fortress!!

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

Kea posted:

I think we all know the mod we need is to turn the atom cats into a full fledged faction.

Oh hell yes. The BOS just thinks they're cool...

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.
Is the ridiculous delay when switching weapons a thing that mods will be able to fix?

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slowm
Sep 5, 2013

live slow, die whenevs
P sure I'm not the first person to piss about this. But, what's the deal with 90% of NPC hostility? Seems like it would be a big mod to overhaul this mechanic, but I'm keeping hope alive that I can eventually join Gunners, Scavs, Radiers, and Children of the Atom for some quests. Maybe I'm doing it wrong. I'm probably doing it wrong.

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