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The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine
Boy, this Clueless reboot is worse than the Ghostbusters one.

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The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

QUEEN CAUCUS posted:

I wonder what she expected to happen? Like at some point she thought this was a good idea that would end well.

You're now starting to see why Islamic countries don't give women full rights.

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

babypolis posted:

seeing as i never joined a death cult, no, not really

but it doesnt take a great understanding of human nature to see how this happens or that these girls probably werent bad people. but i guess even the most basic understanding of humanity is too much for goons

Nah joining a terrorist organization is either two things


A) a really stupid decision that takes a dedicated amount of effort and where you really have to go out of your way to do.

B) You really really really want to kill some people


Both are pretty good reflections of your character.

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine
If you're going to join an armed group and you're on an active battlefield and are actively assisting them or holding a weapon, you are part of the conflict. If you' don't want to die on a battlefield then don't loving go.

in a battle everything is fair and everything is equal

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

A Stupid Baby posted:

Do you really think these girls fit the definition of terrorists

Yes they do actually.

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

babypolis posted:



being really stupid doesnt make you a bad person

Actually yes it does if you go off and pull something like joining ISIS.

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

A Stupid Baby posted:

What did they actually do then besides join up and immediately get turned into de facto sex slaves

ISIS is a large organization and not everyone in it is some foot solider. But you're still part of ISIS and that does make you a terrorist by default.

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

babypolis posted:

no it just makes you stupid and really gullible
You see here's the thing gullibility is short term.

They were in for the long haul and not only that to join ISIS you have to be also very willfully ignorant. Like it is zero surprise on what ISIS does.

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

babypolis posted:

but i dont think these girls actually did anything that could be considered as such.

They joined ISIS and broke ISIS's rules

according to ISIS they deserved to die and ISIS made good on that.

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

A Stupid Baby posted:

Literally celebrating the fact that a couple girls were groomed, recruited, turned into sex slaves, and beaten to death by terrorists is a position that cannot even be measured in Jon Pops

I'm not celebrating it, this is how terrorist organizations always operate and recruit new members.

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine
This is like if Kramer joined ISIS and then called Jerry a few months later saying that he was tired of being there and needs a ride home.

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

babypolis posted:

again i very much doubt they were actually aware of what isis truly was.



Oh come on


Like goddamn just go to Liveleak or any other hundreds of other websites. ISIS isn't some up and coming thing, we've know about ISIS for years. Hell the US has been dealing with radical Islamists since before the revolutionary war and the united states was actually a thing.

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

babypolis posted:

im tired of arguing this point so im just gonna link to this article which explains better than i can

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/28/world/americas/isis-online-recruiting-american.html

Boy that article gets a fuckload of points wrong.

Being lonely does not excuse you from joining a radical group who kills people.

A Stupid Baby posted:

I don't know if the 1700s are an era you really want to bring up when calling for the rape and murder of anyone even tangentially associated with terrorist tactics

It was the golden age of piracy and the Pre-US government even back then was paying off pirate ships that originated from the middle east in order to not attack their stuff

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

babypolis posted:

lol i posted that link seconds ago did you do anything besides reading the title?

I actually read the article already

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

Minorkos posted:

mental illness excuses you of a lot of things actually. having been depressed, it's not really a state of mind you can make rational decisions in

Let's join a group of murderers



IIRC all the manson family went to jail that participated in the killings. Their mental state had zero bearing on their punishment and that was a small cult.

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

babypolis posted:

ok how can the article be wrong when its literally describing the experience of someone who wanted to join isis despite knowing the evil poo poo they do beforehand

Because it does not excuse their actions or garner sympathy because they're joining an evil organization who is out to kill other people.


Street Gangs do this too.

It's Darwin Awards material

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine
Hey guys remember Caro?

He did the exact same poo poo. These girls pulled a Caro.

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

A Stupid Baby posted:

Just to be clear, you're saying that these two girls deserved to be married off to Isis fighters, raped, and beaten to death for trying to escape?

they were the ones who put themselves in that situation

Besides let's not forget....

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine
Also if you join the armed forces you get USAA Car Insurance, and that's way better than 72 dead virgins any day of the week.

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

hemale in pain posted:

What the gently caress is with this thing where everyone deserves sympathy if anyone does anything wrong it's not their fault it's BRAIN PROBLEMS? Let's face it, people are defending them because their girls.

They don't have standards.

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine
They joined ISIS a group that is committed to killing all the wrong types of muslims, all the jews and all the christians ever in horrific ways and they also want to undermine advanced civilizations until everyone lives in mud huts and stone caves. It's also run by pedophiles.


The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

babypolis posted:

if you dont say "stay safe isis ghost" within the next 10 minutes your firstborn daughter will end up joining isis and marrying a 40 year old fat terrorist

if you're that desperate for a wife just do online dating.

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

babypolis posted:

i think people underestimate ease with which our stupid monkey brains can be fooled and deceived into accepting poo poo that goes from harmless to heinous in this case. even so people like these girls only represent a very tiny minority of humans that had the misfortune to have the right combinations of traits such as being weak willed, isolated, maybe angry at something etc. that led them to throw away their comfortable lives. and i think thats sad, and i imagine what they must have felt once the reality of the horror they had willingly walked into dawned of them and its gut wrenching. and some people get angry at this, because how dare you prioritize the suffering of those who did this to themselves over the ones who simply had it hoisted upon them with no fault of their own?. but thankfully this is not our minds work, because if we could actually feel all the pain thats out there we would go mad. we live our lives mostly oblivious to it, except every once in a while we come upon something that reminds us of what is out there. like a lovely online article that offers a tiny slice of misery, a tragic tale of a stupid but probably not evil girl who did a very stupid thing and paid dearly for it. thank you, and god bless america

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The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

A Stupid Baby posted:

I don't think it's very funny that people are literally applauding the acts of the actual ISIS terrorists for grooming, raping, and then beating to death women because they have worked out in their head that they (the two girls) can technically be called "terrorists" despite never having committed nor probably never even intended to commit actual terrorist acts


People aren't applauding people are going "WHAT THE gently caress WERE YOU EXPECTING"?

They're a terrorist group there is no inbetween on their actions. If you wanted to help people go join the red cross or something where the organization's leadership isn't committed to killing people.

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

Lolie posted:


If these young women had successfully escaped back to the West should we have dismissed their actions as youthful indiscretions or held them accountable for their role in aiding the IS?

Just ask the army dude who left his platoon to join the enemy only to be brought back in a prisoner exchange.

He's being sent to jail even though he was just a prisoner to the terrorists. He left his post of his own free will with the intention of joining them.

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

Volume posted:

I thought it was bad that en defended child rape but now goons here are defending terrorism. Jesus loving Christ

actually defending ISIS allows you to do both at the same time.

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

Volume posted:

I thought it was bad that en defended child rape but now goons here are defending terrorism. Jesus loving Christ

actually defending ISIS allows you to do both at the same time.

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

A Stupid Baby posted:

I don't think anyone is suggesting that joining any terrorist group or ISIS in particular is a positive choice for anyone involved. I don't think I ever claimed that these women didn't have agency in their decision or their own reasons. It's possible to understand that ISIS is one of the most repugnant organizations in recent memory, much less one that masquerades as a functioning state, and still be baffled at how ready some goons seem to be to celebrate ISIS's brand of internal "justice".

Guys I touch stove I get burned, I knowingly touched the stove, btw feel bad for me.

Remember this is considered common knowledge over there:

The Taint Reaper fucked around with this message at 12:58 on Nov 29, 2015

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

Cockmaster posted:


Their version of Islam has less respect for the source material than Uwe Boll.

Those are the rules set up by Iran which is a theocracy made under islamic law.

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The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

Josef bugman posted:

After they overthrew the bloke that Britain had put in who had taken over from the socialist guy in charge. That and betrayed the large socialist section because they could get away with it and won out in the aftermath of the overthrow of the Shahs regime. Then we get into a whole mass of internal problems and the fact that many of the larger (and younger) sections of the community don't like being international pariahs and not having any money.

But yeah, lets go with "singing the song Savages" from Disneys Pocahontas because we are unable to understand history and faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaart.

originally it was the younger sections of the community who installed the theocratic rule

and there's no doubt that other people want to get away from this system it's just that the Iranian government has a tendency to kill these people when they protest for it.

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