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Just saying "hi" for tonight, reads and such coming tomorrow. That said, ##vote JakeP - even if he's a Survivor, it means that (a) he's not going to hunt scum, (b) he can potentially help scum late n the game, (c) scum won't be inclined to NK him, and (d) we'll never be able to prove he's 3P. I'd rather just deal with him on D1 instead of no lynching or mislynching.
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Dec 1, 2015 05:25
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100YrsofAttitude posted:Disregarding the fact that it's Murmur Twin now, does anyone want to dissuade my from my case on PMush, because I still think it's the best that can be made and it has surprised me no one has any inclination of any sort towards it or even against it. While I'm obviously biased, I see PMush's post re: Ecco/Taste as more of a D1 hypothesis and less of a hard scum read/chain-lynch. quote:Looking at vote leader I don't want to have to vote Jake since it's a lazy vote and non-tell vote and it's a wasted execution on our part since we're not really furthering our goal by eliminating him. I disagree - you're discounting the fact that Jake could be lying about being Survivor. If he's lying, I find it hard to believe that town would make that up. And if he's telling the truth, all the stuff I said when I voted (that he's admitted he's not going to try and hunt scum, that he has the ability to push LYLO up a day should scum gain the upper hand) applies. Tommunist posted:Is survived a powerful 3rd party role? It seems silly to put your vote down on third party rather then actually hunt for scum These posts are suspicious to me - they feel more like "trying to have content out there" than looking for scum. The typical follow-up to "___ is scummy" is to case someone but there's no follow-up here. Tomm - any reads?
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Dec 1, 2015 17:00
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:Flavor is relevant in this game so you probably shouldn't tell anyone! JakeP posted:My flavor is Dropout i failed out of college in year 1 While I acknowledge that D1 flavor cases are generally weaksauce, it's on my mind so I'll say it - the idea of someone who failed out of college year 1 and dropped out being a Survivor in this game doesn't make sense to me.
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Dec 1, 2015 17:14
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HiipFire posted:I like how we're 6 pages into the game and people are already refusing to play the game HiipFire posted:I haven't read all the posts yet but I don't like people who are abstaining scumhunting and just voting jakep HiipFire posted:im just saying that people that aren't considering anything but jakep are suspicious I see these posts as scummy in that he's posting about generalizations ("people are already refusing to play", "people who are abstaining scumhunting", "people that aren't considering anything but jakep", "enough cases posted throughout the day") instead of making specific posts about which people/cases/posts are suspicious. It reads like someone skimming over the thread and summarizing things instead of bringing new opinions to the table. I still think Jake is the best vote but right now Tomm/Hiip are my two biggest reads for potential scum.
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Dec 1, 2015 20:36
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JakeP posted:i also smoked weed in college, and before college and after college I don't smoke weed anymore. I don't smoke weed any less....I pretty much smoke the same amount as I always have.
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Dec 1, 2015 21:44
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TMMadman posted:So what is your typical amount per day? According to the dates on my phone, it took me 44 days to smoke through an ounce by myself. So roughly an eighth every 5.5 days, probably more on weekends and less on weekdays. I was going to do some clever in-character math equation post to answer this but  Opopanax posted:I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too. I had tickets to see Mitch Hedburg live some 11 years ago but something came up and so I decided "gently caress it, I'll catch him next time".  Kashuno posted:All club drugs are legal in the Netherlands provided you bring only enough for yourself and do not give them to anyone else; they also have "Drug tents" that allow you to check the purity of your drugs so you know they aren't laced. We have DanceSafe and the Bunk Police in the states but a lot of event organizers are shitheads to them because they "will encourage people to use drugs"  OK back to game stuff: JakeP posted:how has this day one been obnoxious, nothing has happened and people are relegating themselves to voting someone they don't think is scum because meh its better than nothing. I think apathetic is the corret word to describe this day 1 What are your thoughts on Tomm / Hiip? I think they're as/more likely to be scum than you, it's just that I feel like there's a 0% chance you're town whereas there's a chance I could be wrong about them. Anyone can feel free to answer that.
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Dec 1, 2015 22:28
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Tommunist posted:I'm going to put down my vote on kashuno for his Jake P, plus the other case on him What is scummy about Kash's vote? Regardless of it being right or wrong, why do you think he's scum? Can you explain the case on Kash in your own words? Tommunist posted:I'm gonna try and b a functioning adult and use my precious day time hours for something ultimately prodfuctive (i will not be baxk for lynch wooo) Oh. For the record I'm 50/50 on voting either Jake or Tomm. Jake - what was the logic in claiming Survivor that early?
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Dec 1, 2015 23:04
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HiipFire posted:tbh JakeP has put a lot more effort into this game than some people including me and I'd keep him in the game for now seeing as I'd rather vote someone that might flip scum What makes you think Jake won't flip scum?
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Dec 2, 2015 01:25
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I'll vote either Jake or Tommunist since I think they're both but have a strong preference for Jake and am keeping my vote there for now. I'll switch to avoid a no-lynch if need be. To me the case on Jake (specifically over Tomm) is - Tomm is either town or scum, Jake is either 3P or scum - If Tomm isn't scum, he could be a town PR and mislynching him would be a Strong Misplay - If Jake isn't scum, we still take out someone who might help scum out down the road - "college dropout" sounds like a scum role more than a survivor role in a college-flavored game
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Dec 2, 2015 02:01
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Kashuno posted:This right here. It's like "wow golly sure is lame he won't be around but he's 100% scum so who cares right?" It's very leading and trying to make it sound like the tomm case is open and shut and that puts me on edge. I actually agree with this point fwiw. Based on other peoples' posts I'm feeling like Tomm is town that scum identified as the easiest person to scapegoat.
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Dec 2, 2015 02:06
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100YrsofAttitude posted:Honestly you Jake voters have good reason to vote him. Only thing I can say is that we can take care of Jake at any time since he's a (well-enough) known entity. I feel like it's as open-and-shut as they come yet we don't seem to be able to pull it off. How potentially losing two town will make it any easier D2?
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Dec 2, 2015 02:11
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100YrsofAttitude posted:Honestly you Jake voters have good reason to vote him. Only thing I can say is that we can take care of Jake at any time since he's a (well-enough) known entity. Explain to me again the part where you'd feel awful taking out a town PR but refuse to switch your vote to someone who is, at best, slightly worse than VT? Right now my money is on a Jake/100 scumteam.
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Dec 2, 2015 02:19
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TMMadman posted:I really hope Asiina or Opop comes in and hammers since Ecco and Tomm aren't going to be here and I think 100 years and Hiip are now gone too.
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Dec 2, 2015 03:13
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EccoRaven posted:who wants to take credit for killing Keane?? Me! That has nothing to do with this game though.  I had nothing to do with his in-game death.
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Dec 3, 2015 01:36
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Tommunist posted:Re-reading through people/ the thread, but kinda cooling of CPig as scum, not so keen on kashuno, but gonna fully re-read him, havn't read ecco/TTM so gonna have a looksies aat them. (a) Why make this post instead of just reading Kash/Ecco/TMM/whoever and casing people? (b) Talk me through what you think about Kash and why
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Dec 3, 2015 05:02
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D1:EccoRaven posted:voting for a survivor is dumb but Jake needs to prove he's a survivor or else he is probably scum. D2: EccoRaven posted:yeah tmm you led the jake vote yesterday which was a Very Bad Vote since it was on a not-scum and had I been around I'd have told you all it was bad. EccoRaven posted:gut + some early bad posts he made towards me + his support of the jake vote (a bad vote remember!) + thinking last night while drunk and tired that it'd be a hassle to actually get a vote on him going since I don't have the time or effort to parse through all his posts and make a case and I figured worst case he dies and flips town so who cares whatever. vOv I feel like Ecco's story is inconsistent. On D1, he was at least open to the idea that Jake might be scum. But then on D2 he's trying to sell himself as someone who was staunchly against the vote on Jake, and that if only he was here would he have talked us out of it. He implies that the reason TMM is scum is that he was leading the charge on Jake, even though me/Taste/Pig (off the top of my head) were also very much in on it. Also, the thought process used to rationalize vigging Keane doesn't sound like it came from someone who didn't know Keane's alignment. If he didn't have time to make a case/parse through his posts, why vig him over someone he was accusing of being scum D1? If his reaction to possibly vigging town is "who cares whatever" then why hassle TMM about Very Bad Play? ##vote Ecco
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Dec 3, 2015 15:26
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Kashuno posted:Normally I'd unvote since we have over a day until deadline and ecco is at -2, but Ecco's reaction is so poor that I think it's fine to just lynch her now. I just realized I hosed up pronouns in my last post - sorry Ecco!
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Dec 3, 2015 15:40
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EccoRaven posted:I mean let's be clear here what do you think was my gameplan from this? State my (expressly unpersuasive) feelings on TMM, hoping that Keane (my scumbuddy?) would die so I could then make my case stronger against TMM to justify a vote for him? In a world where you're scum, I'd assume your plan was to drop the "vigilante" code at the start of the game, vig a scumbro, take credit for it knowing no one would counterclaim you, and then try to ride town credit to the end of the game. It would also explain the lack of a town NK. That said, it's tough to just blanket assume that at this point, so I'm fine exploring other avenues since there's plenty of time before deadline. ##unvote
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Dec 3, 2015 16:44
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Murmur Twin posted:In a world where you're scum, I'd assume your plan was to drop the "vigilante" code at the start of the game, vig a scumbro, take credit for it knowing no one would counterclaim you, and then try to ride town credit to the end of the game. It would also explain the lack of a town NK. Mafia edit for clarity: when I said "vig a scumbro" I meant "NK a scumbro"
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Dec 3, 2015 16:49
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Tommunist posted:I'm going to put down my vote on kashuno for his Jake P, plus the other case on him, would also vote Pig, who seems to be basically lurking, and that seemed to be the tactic he used last time i played scum with him. I'm not going to vote JakeP Tommunist posted:Re-reading through people/ the thread, but kinda cooling of CPig as scum, not so keen on kashuno, but gonna fully re-read him, havn't read ecco/TTM so gonna have a looksies aat them. Tommunist posted:I'm really not getting scum vibes anymore from kashuno, my case on day one was based on not really thinking JakeP was a good vote, but i'm not really seeing JakeP as a bad vote anymore (as well as the other case on him not being amazing) , still need to re-read some other people so might come back to him but for now not getting the kashuno vibes~~ ##vote Tommunist (a) I see the constant promising of reading the game / providing content as a scumtell. (bolded stuff above) (b) If he's not reading the game thoroughly, I find it hard to believe the one updated read he has was that Asii's case on Kash was good on D1 and bad on D2 (italics'ed stuff above)
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Dec 3, 2015 18:02
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EccoRaven posted:I killed Keane over him though because honestly I think it wouldn't be too difficult to get a vote going against TMM, because regardless of his alignment he tends to put his foot in his mouth and talk himself into a noose EccoRaven posted:imo he's scum! why don't people think he's scum? is the case on tommunist totally unrelated to him? Can you show/tell me what about his posts in this game are different from how he usually acts regardless of his alignment?
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Dec 3, 2015 21:24
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D1Kashuno posted:##vote Tomm gonna try this. His vote on me was bad and lazy, trying to keep the steamtrain on me going was bad. D2 Kashuno posted:I think it's just that so far this game my reads and the majority reads seem to intertwine. It happens on occasion, although I don't get the tomm case worth poo poo and think 100 is probably scum Can you explain what your current read on Tomm is? I'm curious what he's posted since D1 that made you go from "his vote was bad and lazy" to "I don't get the tomm case worth poo poo".
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Dec 4, 2015 16:45
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Kashuno posted:Tomm isn't providing a ton of content, but I'm not feeling him very confidently today as I was yesterday and, in addition, the case against him right now isn't one I particularly agree with. 100 seems more like scum to me. What about it don't you agree with? Murmur Twin posted:##vote Tommunist Like I feel very strong about Tomm being scum and I'm just curious to hear you argue devil's advocate.
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Dec 4, 2015 16:57
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Kashuno posted:I'm curious why you find Tomm scummy for saying he will reread while offering opinions such as: I'll answer yours after you answer mine. Why don't you think Tomm is scum?
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Dec 4, 2015 17:16
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Opopanax posted:So, why doesn't anyone think Ecco is an SK? It never occured to me! But we already had a Survivor and two 3Ps in a 13-player game feels like a lot.
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Dec 4, 2015 17:22
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Regarding Taste - despite his not reading much, I believe that his opinions (Jake being a good vote, Ecco's claim likely being true) are genuine opinions. My case isn't "people who aren't reading are scum". My case is that in Tomm's votes for you, he twice references "the other case on you".Tommunist posted:I'm going to put down my vote on kashuno for his Jake P, plus the other case on him Tommunist posted:b) I'm really not getting scum vibes anymore from kashuno, my case on day one was based on not really thinking JakeP was a good vote, but i'm not really seeing JakeP as a bad vote anymore (as well as the other case on him not being amazing) For reference, here is the other case on you. Asiina posted:Enough about that though, I don't know if you are scum, but I do think Kashuno is scum and want to make a case. He's done a lot of contentless voting, including voting Chic, unvoting, and then voting for her again, all based on Madman's points but doesn't explain what he likes about them. My assertion is that he's claiming to have read this case, enough for it to have been the driving force between his vote D1 and to have dismissed it on D2. I don't think he's telling the truth, given that he hasn't had a solid opinion on anything else in the game yet. Kashuno posted:Tomm seems to be at least attempting to put in some effort, even if it isn't great. [citation needed]
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Dec 4, 2015 17:43
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While I think there exists a nonzero chance of Ecco being scum, I don't see it as likely nor do I see a reason to need to address it D1. Right now my money is on Kash/Tomm for scum.Kashuno posted:Perhaps it is the amount of times Tomm has said it, but eh. Tomm seems to be at least attempting to put in some effort, even if it isn't great. I don't really think his content is strong, but I also don't think it's coming from a fake place. In retrospect, based on the rest of his play, his d1 vote on me makes more sense. Murmur Twin posted:[citation needed] I was being serious, what posts led you to these conclusions? I don't see how you can read over his post history and come to the conclusion that "he's put in effort" or that "it's [not] coming from a fake place" or that his vote on you makes sense.
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Dec 4, 2015 22:10
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Murmur Twin posted:While I think there exists a nonzero chance of Ecco being scum, I don't see it as likely nor do I see a reason to need to address it D1. Mafia edit: D2.
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Dec 4, 2015 22:11
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Kashuno posted:A changing of opinion, accompanied by other opinions. Words don't necessarily mean effort First quote summary: scumreads on you + Pig because you voted for Jake, also on you because of "the case on you" Second quote summary: Pig isn't as scummy, but Kash still might be pending a reread. No read on Ecco/TMM but plans to read them. Third quote summary: Kash isn't as scummy, "the case on you" isn't good If I'm missing something please feel free to fill me in but I don't see how those last two quotes made you go from voting him D1 to not being suspicious of him D2.
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Dec 4, 2015 22:26
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Oh wow I just realized deadline is in 3 hours.Kashuno posted:I think we might just have to agree to disagree here. I've not really been bothered by tomms d2 content as he has been acting how I feel town tomm acts. To be clear, you're referring to the three total posts on D2 he made that contain literally no reads/cases?
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Dec 4, 2015 22:37
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Kashuno posted:but service sucks on my commute so there's that. I can think of at least two ways to interpret this, both of which are true.
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Dec 4, 2015 22:47
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I'm heading home and probably destined to be sitting in traffic for at least the next hour but I feel like I've made my opinions known. I should be around before deadline.
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Dec 4, 2015 23:08
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Dec 14, 2015 22:06
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I was 100% sure Kash was scum after Tomm flipped cop and then I got NKed  GG scum, thanks ANarc!
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Dec 14, 2015 22:11
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TMMadman posted:No you're the worst. I've found that it's often more productive to reflect on what changes I could have made to my game than it is to accuse others of being "bad", if for no other reason than it's all just an internet game that we play for fun. edit: I quoted TMM there but that goes out to anyone it applies to
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Dec 14, 2015 22:15
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EccoRaven posted:You are a SECRET SANTA! You wish to have a Merry Christmas to all, and as such, win when your Santee receives a present on or before Christmas Day (12/25). Your Santee is: CCKeane posted:Hey Kash, a little elf told me that they're happy that you liked the gift haha! They also said they'd be back. Oh yes, oh yes they'd be back, as long as there is work in Boston and they have a plain unmarked white van. Murmur Twin posted:Haha I came clean and met up with Kash to give him the rest of his gifts, planning ways to troll him was funner than actually applying Geez, that was the perfect triple-cross. I'll never plot to troll Kash again!
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Dec 14, 2015 22:24
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TMMadman posted:Sorry but that's not going to happen here. I directly told everyone exactly what I was and maintained that position until I was hung. There was absolutely no reason to suspect I was anything other than town. Asiina simply didn't like my play style and voted me for it. I'm not sure what 100yrs was thinking. CPig is the only one I'll forgive for my lynch because he was getting the job done. Although he still probably should have no lynched me. Is there anything you could have done differently that might have prevented this? (that's a genuine question and not an attempt to be snarky)
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Dec 14, 2015 22:28
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