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Keket: Apr 18, 2009; Mhmm

Launches on the first of December

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwdRh_sDVa8

The latest in the Rainbow Six line since Vegas 2 in 2008.
Siege is a small TvT Multiplayer only game that Ubisoft (Yes it uses Uplay...) is hoping to rival Counter Strike in the competitive gaming scene. Available on ps4 and xbone alongside PC (No crossplay) the game�s pretty fun! Launching with 20 operators (10 defenders 10 attackers) and 11 maps with night and day versions.

At the start of each round you get placed on either the attacking team, which means you get to run around like headless chickens driving mini drones to find your objectives and marking enemies whilst the defending team gets to barricade and set up traps for 30 seconds before the main game starts, if the defending team move outside of the building they appear on the map, forcing them to play defensively.

There are currently 3 game modes out at launch.
Capture the hostage: You must escort an ai hostage to a safe zone.
Zone control: Capture a defended zone from the defending team.
Bomb defusal: Defuse one of two bombs placed on the map.

All these modes can be solved by eliminating the enemy team or (if defending) time expiring instead of doing the main objective.

Casual mode is just that, jump into a game and get matched against people without the matchmaker taking skill into account, you don't get to choose where to defend.
Ranked puts you up against people at around the same rating as you, you get more rewards and as the defending team you get to choose where you want to defend at the start of your rounds.

No SP
Yep! No single player at all unless you account for you VS ai in terrorist hunt, which can also be played with buddies in multiplayer.

- Get on mumble, we use CTS and in the rainbow six channel everyone uses this discord now aparently :siren:

Eyud posted:

Instead of arguing about whether a link has been posted or not, and instead of using some web site with a widget, here's a drat normal Discord link that will never expire:

https://discord.gg/V8m2ZbR

- a spreadsheet for Siegefolks
- The Rainbow Six Reddit is actually quite active and the devs post there allot.
- We have a badly named Steam Group if you want to use that to find steambuddies.
- Watch (Open, then skip) all the tutorials for some free Clancybucks.
- Use z to point at things for teammates, instead of saying "oh gently caress THAT window THERE"
- There's a compass, use it for your calls.
- Only mark (hold X) enemies if they're in a position that your teammates can kill them, otherwise they'll get a massive 'You've been spotted!' on their screen and will usually shoot the camera a second later.

Effortposts!

Vengarr made a giant effortpost here

lohli posted:

Attackers:

Twitch - Her special is the shock-drone, it's like the regular RC drones minus the ability to jump but it has a short-range taser which does a small amount of damage(I think 20?) to players and is capable of destroying enemy equipment.
The shock drone is a great opportunity to learn the maps while staying relatively safe and not relegating yourself to a role that is entirely reconnaissance(though a communicative drone user can make things incredibly easy for the attackers).
For weapons she has quite a lot of options, a shotgun, a full auto rifle, and a semi-auto rifle, the latter of which can give you some idea about whether or not you'd want to unlock someone like Glaz(a sniper) who uses a similar weapon.

Fuze - His special is a cluster-bomb attack, it is placed on one side of a wall/door and shits a few grenades out the other side. It's a pretty situational ability, since using it on a room that your team-mates have just stormed is a good way to get a few friendly-fire kills, and using it on a room with a hostage in is a good way to bring the round to a quick loss. Despite the caution with which you need to use him, he's still a good choice to unlock early because of how devastating a well used cluster-bomb is.
For weapons, Fuze has the option of an LMG, a full-auto rifle, and a bullet-proof shield(which is used alongside your side-arm), playing with the shield should give you an idea about whether or not you would like to play Blitz or Montagne who do not have weapon choices that forgo a shield.

Thermite - His ability is to breach even reinforced walls, because of this he is probably the only character who would reasonably have a place in every attacking line-up. For that alone he is worth unlocking. He also stands out for being one of two Operators who can carry Frag Grenades, the other being Sledge. In terms of weapons you're looking at either full-auto rifle or shotgun.

Defenders:

Mute - Has the ability to put down Signal Disruptors, which prevent the use of breaching and thermite charges within their range, as well as disabling any RC drones that stumble into their range. Disruptors are a great way to leave the enemy team somewhat aimless at the start, they're good for redirecting enemy attention, to either themselves in the case of enemies coming to doors with jammers nearby(in which case they give away the enemy position when shooting at them), or away from less defensible entry-points.

Rook - Deploys a bag of armour for people to improve their survivability with, supposedly it makes them more likely to end up merely downed rather than killed.

Doc - Can revive downed players from a distance, and can revive himself when downed. Because of the former he serves well as a defender who hangs behind the frontline and because of the latter he's great as a solo roaming defender.

Kapkan - Can set up laser-mines on doorways which is great when you're a beginner and playing other, less attentive/knowledgeable, beginners and has the option of a remote detonated explosive, which is effective against shield-users, though generally Smoke is probably a better shield counter since he can have the explosive as well as having remote detonated poison bombs.

Roadmap for free DLC

Keket fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Oct 9, 2016

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# ? Apr 19, 2024 14:15

Keket: Apr 18, 2009; Mhmm

Stupid poo poo goes here. :siren:

Wave dicks at each other over stats using this

Schnugaf posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rPawMWlzpA

As requested, I've uploaded.
A bit long maybe.

Sorry about me being loud and having my mic broadcast constantly.

Dog Fat Man Chaser posted:

edit: also put deployable shields near hostages so that the enemy thinks the butt peeking out is an enemy and kills it, kaddion did that and the enemy fell for it, it was loving hysterical

Pubbies are either hilariously bad at killing drones or really good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzJTRQlwSM4

automaticswim posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SvLpA2VKTU

What bugs?

Hard posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdsKqN4MzPc

whoknew posted:

Keket fucked around with this message at 08:49 on Apr 6, 2016

# ? Nov 30, 2015 09:34

Orv: May 4, 2011

This game is stupid loving garbage and I can't stop playing it.

# ? Nov 30, 2015 09:36

Futaba Anzu: May 6, 2011; GROSS BOY

this one time i smacked a window barricade to peek outside and managed to whack a rappeling ash completely out of the blue

# ? Nov 30, 2015 09:44

Futaba Anzu: May 6, 2011; GROSS BOY

also the steam group is effectively useless because normal members don't have announcement privileges so we can't spam the group to alert people about groups forming up.

# ? Nov 30, 2015 09:48

my kinda ape: Sep 15, 2008; Everything's gonna be A-OK; Oven Wrangler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=554XiLSZZeA

# ? Nov 30, 2015 09:53

Keket: Apr 18, 2009; Mhmm

pandaK posted:

also the steam group is effectively useless because normal members don't have announcement privileges so we can't spam the group to alert people about groups forming up.

There's good reason for that, its "Goons". Just use it to find buddies so you can spam them through chat about a group.

# ? Nov 30, 2015 10:10

Futaba Anzu: May 6, 2011; GROSS BOY

Keket posted:

There's good reason for that, its "Goons". Just use it to find buddies so you can spam them through chat about a group.

It works "fine" with the CSGO groups.

# ? Nov 30, 2015 10:13

Wolfy: Jul 13, 2009

I'm really on the fence with this one. A lot of poo poo with servers etc kind of worries me, but more importantly playing a tactical shooter with dumb pubbies, as most of my friends just aren't into them. I noticed during beta most of you seemed to be playing on PC. Any goons getting this on PS4?

# ? Nov 30, 2015 10:18

Obstacle2: Dec 21, 2004; feels good man

Game has a ton of potential needs some significant patching.
Servers seem questionable and the fact that both teams look basically exactly the same and the UI queues are nearly identical when you aim at friendlies and enemies is irritating.

Could use a hardcore game mode or something too.

Looking forward to playing again when it's on sale and some of the kinks have been worked out.

# ? Nov 30, 2015 10:20

Haptical Sales Slut: Mar 15, 2010; Age 18 to 49

ghetto wormhole posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=554XiLSZZeA

lmao just show the god drat gameplay jesus christ

# ? Nov 30, 2015 10:27

my kinda ape: Sep 15, 2008; Everything's gonna be A-OK; Oven Wrangler

Nuts and Gum posted:

lmao just show the god drat gameplay jesus christ

Schnugaf posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rPawMWlzpA

# ? Nov 30, 2015 10:43

Gucci Loafers: May 20, 2006; Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?

If they fix the latency with servers this is a pretty cool game.

# ? Nov 30, 2015 10:44

Haptical Sales Slut: Mar 15, 2010; Age 18 to 49

ghetto wormhole posted:

thank you goon, this actually looks pretty fun!

# ? Nov 30, 2015 11:21

RocketSurgeon: Mar 2, 2008

Wow a 60 euro game trying to go up against CSGO, good luck!
Does it have a server browser/can you have custom servers or is it more like CoD?

# ? Nov 30, 2015 11:28

Xeremides: Feb 21, 2011; There Diomedes aimed and stabbed, he gouged him down
his glistening flesh and wrenched the spear back out
and the brazen god of war let loose a shriek, roaring,
thundering loud as nine, ten thousand combat soldiers
shriek with Ares' fury when massive armies clash.

GMG has it for $40, which I think is a more appropriate price point for the game.

# ? Nov 30, 2015 12:06

Krogort: Oct 27, 2013

RocketSurgeon posted:

Does it have a server browser/can you have custom servers or is it more like CoD?

It has DOTA-like matchmaking.

# ? Nov 30, 2015 12:07

Diet Crack: Jan 15, 2001

The matchmaking service is probably the biggest downfall of this game

# ? Nov 30, 2015 12:20

Orv: May 4, 2011

RocketSurgeon posted:

Wow a 60 euro game trying to go up against CSGO, good luck!
Does it have a server browser/can you have custom servers or is it more like CoD?

The CS comparisons do this game a huge disservice and they won't really impede on each others player base at all past the initial month or so, I think.

# ? Nov 30, 2015 12:59

my kinda ape: Sep 15, 2008; Everything's gonna be A-OK; Oven Wrangler

Orv posted:

The CS comparisons do this game a huge disservice and they won't really impede on each others player base at all past the initial month or so, I think.

Yeah it's probably most similar to SWAT 4 but that game is 10 years old now. Even then Siege is considerably faster and has a lot fancier gadgets + building defenses/destruction.

It's like if a modern SWAT 4 and CoD Black Ops had a baby. It only superficially resembles CS.

# ? Nov 30, 2015 13:02

Moartoast: Jan 16, 2011; Another unfunny, threadshitting knob-end.

I really wish there was an actual SWAT 5, though. I like the pacing of Siege but I do miss the more methodical approach, AI squadmates with absurd amounts of commands, weird scenario setups, more unique levels and PUT YOUR HANDS UP AND GET DOWN of SWAT 4. I'd love for R6S and SWAT 5 to co-exist like their respective franchises did in the early-mid 2000's.

# ? Nov 30, 2015 13:15

Ahdinko: Oct 27, 2007; WHAT A LOVELY DAY

Orv posted:

The CS comparisons do this game a huge disservice and they won't really impede on each others player base at all past the initial month or so, I think.

The gameplay is quite different, as a CS player who also likes Siege, the biggest thing stopping it from a competitive CS replacement is the hit reg. It seems to vary wildly from "ok" to "absolutely disgusting"
If they can fix that, they might be onto something

# ? Nov 30, 2015 13:30

Stormgale: Feb 27, 2010

I'm 100% sure this game is worth the like 16 pounds I paid for it.

# ? Nov 30, 2015 13:39

Liberatore: Nov 16, 2010; Would you like
to know more?

When (that's no) moon hits this guy like a big Twi'lek guy: Liberatore!

To answer the guy in the last thread, I bought through g2play, but not from them.

http://www.g2play.net/category/21157/tom-clancy-s-rainbow-six-siege-uplay-voucher/

Those are just NVIDIA codes. Pick a seller with lots of good feedback and they will send you a key that you can't redeem through UPlay, but rather have to go through here, which will prompt you to login with an UPlay account and then link the game to it.

It's cheaper to go through ebay; I've seen these (Bullets or Blades) codes for as low as $20, but g2play accepts other payment methods which is useful to me, and it ended up costing $27.50 after fees anyway.

# ? Nov 30, 2015 13:46

Assepoester: Jul 18, 2004; Can't post for 11 years!; Melman v2

Encountered a weird bug where a barricade was invincible to Ash's breaching gernades, it was weird

# ? Nov 30, 2015 13:50

Lacedaemonius: Jan 18, 2015; Rub a dub dub

Is this a good place for the Tom Clancy games? Raven Shield, Rogue Spear, etc.

# ? Nov 30, 2015 13:56

Schnugaf: Mar 23, 2011; The Great Derposaurus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVhJC-nYjyg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzD90OB8xGY

Posted the ambush one in last thread.
Thought I'd throw in a game with some friends of mine, unfortunately we speak Norwegian, but the gist of it is that while I was planting the defuser, one baddie arrived and stood next to me covering the entrance to the room, I killed him.
I tried to plant defuser again, and another guy popped up next to me doing the same thing, covering the entrance to the room and ignoring me.

# ? Nov 30, 2015 13:59

Liberatore: Nov 16, 2010; Would you like
to know more?

When (that's no) moon hits this guy like a big Twi'lek guy: Liberatore!

I like how you left the guy to bleed out next to you. The other guy was looking at him so I think he came to revive his buddy, oblivious to your presence.

# ? Nov 30, 2015 14:17

Absorbs Smaller Goons: Mar 16, 2006

A point to note about the game, the netcode is horrible, and I really mean horrible in the sense that something is really hosed up about it. The killcam will show you stuff that definitely not happened on your end, at one point when playing with goons yesterday two of us got ganked by a guy standing in a staircase corner, both of us apparently ran just in front of him and never saw the dude. A lot of times you will be hitting people in the dome on your end, and the killcam will show the enemy not getting damaged and just destroying you.

It's either a problem with the game's base netcode being horrible, or just not up to spec (rumors of 15 tick rate would confirm that, but it's just rumors). For a game pretending to be competitive, Ubi could be a little more transparent about what goes on behind the scenes and if the game really is based on lovely tick rate (for comparison CSGO has 64-128 and BF4 is now able to do 144 although 60 is the norm).

The game in itself is really fun, the concept is fresh and nicely done but the tech is so frustrating and just doesn't work.

Also just to note I ma not someone who gets worked up about dying in multiplayer games, I will definitely commend on an enemy getting a good drop on me but I cannot recommend getting this game unless you liked the BF4 launch and though everything was working fine.

Absorbs Smaller Goons fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Nov 30, 2015

# ? Nov 30, 2015 14:25

Lacedaemonius: Jan 18, 2015; Rub a dub dub

Absorbs Smaller Goons posted:

the concept is fresh and nicely done but the tech is so frustrating and just doesn't work.

sounds like every ubi game ever

# ? Nov 30, 2015 14:28

Charles Martel: Mar 7, 2007; "The Hero of the Age..."

The hero of all ages

I have to say that since the developers un-hosed the matchmaking in the open beta on xbox, I've been having fun with it. It's not without its issues and definitely needs more polish, but I've been having enough fun with it to the point of letting hours slip by without noticing.

Being able to buy boosters and gun camo in the store with in-game credits is comforting. Thunt on Hard is actually...hard, unless you have a coordinated team, obviously, but I hate to see what Realistic is like now. Shields went from being nearly unstoppable to a farce. Not sure if it was just dumb luck or not, but I managed to get headshots on shield users on two occasions from the other end of the hallway when I wasn't able to drop anyone using a shield in the last beta. Using Blitz was a disaster since his pistol seems useless unless you're ADSing with him which drops his shield. I was shooting terrorists at point blank range while hipfiring and wasn't getting any markers. Didn't feel like it was due to lag. It's like they heard people talk about Thunt being too easy and going against ballistic shields being too hard and "fixed" it by swinging the pendulum completely the other way when they need to bring it back a bit.

One multiplayer match stood out while playing this yesterday morning: I'm a recruit on the attacking team hiding out in the room next to the bomb and the two defenders left took care of the rest of my team and were setting up barricades anywhere they could. After lying in wait for them for a minute or so, I finally went "Hell with it", ran into the bomb room, set up the defuser right in front of the bomb to give me the best line of sight possible, and hid behind cover back in the first room. After a couple tense moments, one guy sneaks through the back entrance of the room and I manage to drop him and stay hidden. The next guy comes in the other entrance, creeps into the bomb room, starts to interrupt the defuser, and I drop him with a couple shots to win the match for our team. Perfect way to end the night.

Moments like that make this game shine and, despite my bitching about this game in the previous thread, is enough to make me think about grabbing a copy of the game this week after all with a 20% GCU discount and $10 rewards certificate from Best Buy, which would bring it down to the ~$35 range. I just hope the population sticks around and the game gets smoothed out overtime. Ubisoft doesn't have a stellar track record lately.

Charles Martel fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Nov 30, 2015

# ? Nov 30, 2015 16:55

Krogort: Oct 27, 2013

I heard the game has been released in asia.

# ? Nov 30, 2015 17:26

DatonKallandor: Aug 21, 2009; "I can no longer sit back and allow nationalist shitposting, nationalist indoctrination, nationalist subversion, and the German nationalist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious game balance."

Here's another good example of how awesome the game can be, and how awful the hit detection was last beta. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fv3xeA8fRs

# ? Nov 30, 2015 17:29

Liberatore: Nov 16, 2010; Would you like
to know more?

When (that's no) moon hits this guy like a big Twi'lek guy: Liberatore!

So it looks like the university map isn't playable in MP outside of a 'secret', T-Hunt style mission you unlock after you finish all the situations. So there are in fact 10 MP maps, not 11.

Also, you now need to be clearance level 20 to play ranked.

Liberatore fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Nov 30, 2015

# ? Nov 30, 2015 17:29

Liberatore: Nov 16, 2010; Would you like
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When (that's no) moon hits this guy like a big Twi'lek guy: Liberatore!

Krogort posted:

I heard the game has been released in asia.

It's out for consoles in parts of Asia, Australia and New Zealand. PC version will unlock at the same time for everybody I believe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epoZQOH5LPU

Liberatore fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Nov 30, 2015

# ? Nov 30, 2015 17:34

sbaldrick: Jul 19, 2006; Driven by Hate

I couldn`t even connect all of yesterday on the Bone after the game decided that I was having too much fun playing and disconnected me in the middle of a match

# ? Nov 30, 2015 17:48

Dead Like Rev: Sep 6, 2010; "The dead walk among us."

Bandit video best video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh4tZbrzVdg

# ? Nov 30, 2015 18:02

Keket: Apr 18, 2009; Mhmm

Oh I'm sorry but "Fookin' laser sights" is the best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcxx5NnZ_tQ

# ? Nov 30, 2015 18:15

Robo Reagan: Feb 12, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

is the game still a buggy piece of poo poo because if not it's going to own

# ? Nov 30, 2015 18:19

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# ? Apr 19, 2024 14:15

my kinda ape: Sep 15, 2008; Everything's gonna be A-OK; Oven Wrangler

Robo Reagan posted:

is the game still a buggy piece of poo poo because if not it's going to own

Matchmaking is quite a bit better but not perfect, hit detection varies from fine to horrible. If they up the tick rate on the servers it should be great. We'll see how much better or worse the release build is!

I've never crashed during this beta and I think I crashed once (and not during a match) during the previous betas. Haven't noticed any bugs during gameplay in the latest beta at all.

# ? Nov 30, 2015 18:21

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