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Pros: Barrett might be getting some use as a mouthpiece for the authority goon squad New Day is so good that they make Sheamus look good Sasha had a match I liked Becky vs Charlotte for a TV match. Becky got her full entrance. Dean got the hot tag and left looking better than Reigns Cons: Who cares about Wyatts vs ECW Breeze is on the 50/50 treadmill with "Losing Loser That Doesn't Matter" Dolph Ziggler The face/heel dynamic makes no sense with Sasha vs Brie Charlotte turning heel leaves Becky as the lone babyface that isn't Nattie Titus as Smiling Dad Big Show sucks Why is Adam Rose employed? Other stuff happened that I forget because NOTHING MATTERS
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Who says they won't? Roman almost certainly won't battle them alone, especially if New Day is legitimately with them and that wasn't a one-off. Nobody's quitting anything, but breaks are needed every now and then. gently caress, a decent portion watch only SD because gently caress 3 hours, and that's okay too. I'm not saying anyone shouldn't take a break from WWE if they want because it's definitely gonna be rough until Rumble, so have a fun month. And I'm also not saying anyone shouldn't take a break from wrestling if they want because lucha's 2 biggest companies are loving up historically and constantly this year, 2 companies' main events are about to be hosed because AJ's hurt, and Honma wound up being a horrible human, so all hope is gone until Wrestle Kingdom revives Meltzer, so have a fun month.
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When they first tried to push R. Reigns as a super babyface it didn't work and backfired spectacularly. They then had a couple of moments when it looked like they were booking him well, (as a badass who punches people, and also is Dean Ambroses wrestlebuddy), and that was rehabilitating him if you will. He was getting more and more cheers. Now they have him as the crying underdo who is being hard done by by the Authority. This is being met with apathy. I understand having a crying babyface being constantly cheated out of the title, and personally shat upon by an Authority figure. It makes them sympathetic, and when they do eventually win we love it/them and the moment. But what they have done is take a badass and turn him into a pussy. They are violating the 7 year rule by trying to do underdog anti-Authority figure eventually overcomes the odds/obstacles placed in his way, when they did that already with DB, and even the most fickle of WWE wrestling fan still remembers that. (Possihbly, maybe. But I still reckon most do.) They are actively hurting the one they most wish to push. It makes little to no sense.
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lol, the bar is set so loving low that people are saying that was a solid raw.
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I'm mostly just happy that Uso injury was a work.
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Cornwind Evil posted:I'm mostly just happy that Uso injury was a work. The New Day are to be fed to the Cenas Samoan like all tag teams.
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BrigadierSensible posted:When they first tried to push R. Reigns as a super babyface it didn't work and backfired spectacularly. Remember when they wanted to push Lana as the face of the Diva's division, so they completely changed her character and had her mewling after Ziggler, and it was so bad that people started hating her AND Ziggler, even though they were pretty over beforehand? And when she used outside channels to sabotage the angle, WWE was so salty about it, they gave TV time to Adam Rose to talk about what a bitch she was? I liked tonight's RAW OK but this company does not know how to push people. The constant TMZ namechecking tonight was the funniest thing ever.
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what the christ did I miss THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS???????
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Cory Lidle posted:
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Luigi Thirty posted:The New Day are to be fed to the Cenas Samoan like all tag teams. Then we may as well enjoy them while we can.
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HulkaMatt posted:what the christ did I miss literally nothing worth watching but a handful of New Day segments that are probably already in Youtube clips this Raw sucked and if you thought it was a legitimately good three hours of television I would like to compare notes because that was some garbage, garbage TV
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HulkaMatt posted:what the christ did I miss Just like the real League, it is the brainchild of an egotistical and racist old white man.
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I see WWE has started uploading Smoky Mountain and Mid South which is cool and the kind of stuff I want to watch - but christ I figured they'd realize I'd like to watch eps in order at this point.
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Benne posted:If Raw made you sad the Network is adding a bunch of NWA, Smoky Mountain and Mid-South stuff right now Oh awesome, I knew about the NWA stuff but not the latter two. Mid-South and Smoky Mountain is stuff I've always wanted to watch but was too lazy to go about tracking down myself. HulkaMatt posted:but christ I figured they'd realize I'd like to watch eps in order at this point. Goddammit WWE  Yeah, I wanna watch this stuff in order, not just grab random episodes and watch them in a vacuum. Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 08:19 on Dec 1, 2015 |
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Dec 1, 2015 08:16
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watching a bunch of territories totally at random provides key insight to modern wwe creative
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:the reason they brought dreamer back was it's philly and also because everyone worth a drat is either injured or gone and i guess rvd didn't answer his phone What about Sabu? I'm sure Sabu answers the phone from anyone.
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Ratings are dropping. Long-time fans are complaining that the product is getting stale. Here are creative's current answers to these problems: - dickish authority figures complete with kiss-rear end champion - an ECW reunion squad (in 2015) vs the Wyatt Family, which has been totally emasculated as a threat - the most talented female wrestler on the roster in a nothing-burger of a match that requires outside interference to beat the lesser Bella twin - another lovely Adam Rose gimmick - no IC Champion Kevin Owens at all - gently caress it, let's put all the foreigners into a heel stable - also, let's book a gigantic clusterfuck of a tag match for a main event, people loved that 10-man we did back in the day I get that Rollins getting hurt derailed a bunch of stuff, but this was pretty bad. The fact that you could replace JBL with a soundboard for three hours isn't helping. The entire operation seems stuck in a rut.
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Cory Lidle posted:The face/heel dynamic makes no sense with Sasha vs Brie It seemed like they're pushing Brie and Alicia as faces with Nikki gone, hence Alicia getting murdered on the outside and Brie not partaking in any shenanigans and getting beaten by the distraction finish 
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Dec 1, 2015 08:27
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I really like the idea of the League of Nations but they have a really poor track record with stables. Hope they get a chance to run for a decent while, at least. Raw was pretty boring, glad I had Mario Maker to get me through.
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I don't mind the league of nations thing. It killed the terrible Mexamerica gimmick and it gave Barrett and Rusev something to do somewhere between the midcard and main event scene. Plus in a vacuum it should be a pretty intimidating stable as long as they don't just get run through by Reigns and/or a returning Cena
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Dec 1, 2015 08:32
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Intruder posted:I don't mind the league of nations thing. It killed the terrible Mexamerica gimmick and it gave Barrett and Rusev something to do somewhere between the midcard and main event scene. Plus in a vacuum it should be a pretty intimidating stable as long as they don't just get run through by Reigns and/or a returning Cena I predict it will end up exactly as imposing and dominating as Barrett's previous stables.
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Dec 1, 2015 08:33
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I think it's cool that they're going to try something new, but I also don't like things like this because it shows us they have had absolutely no direction and are throwing something against the wall.
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vince, scrambling while cena ducks his calls, grabs his phone and dials the first number he scrolls to on accident, and being a man who makes no mistakes immediately offers tommy dreamer money and an undertaker match at wrestlemania. He calmly puts the phone down, and then explodes like a bag of watermelon chunks.
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I reserve the right to completely change my opinion if New Day is somehow absorbed into LoN in an attempt to get the new stable over
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Dec 1, 2015 08:36
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I guess Kevin Owens was nowhere to be seen on this show? Glad he avoided being in that group.
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[Nwo guy voice] L. Double-O. N.
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Dec 1, 2015 08:43
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I still don't get Ryback's smash mouth comment. It's pretty cool that Vince is relying on the New Day to carry Raw.
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what did he say
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Dec 1, 2015 08:58
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tommy dreamer is smashing donuts into his mouth
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HulkaMatt posted:what did he say FEED ME MORE EGGS
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HulkaMatt posted:what did he say
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Rhyno was just on a couple months of NXT, they couldn't get him for tonight? Rhyno can still kinda work.
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That video cuts off too quick, I wanted to see how the crowd reacted.
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HulkaMatt posted:That video cuts off too quick, I wanted to see how the crowd reacted. They cheered. He then said, "This isn't some episode of Teen Wolf. This is Monday Night Raw, and the BIG GUY is Hungry." *cheer*
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What does it mean to believe in smash mouth
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That DICK! posted:What does it mean to believe in smash mouth it means you're an all star. get your game on. go. play.
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I think my problem with the League of Nations is the WWE is suffering horribly from a dearth of midcard story arcs, and between Barrett, Rusev, ADR and Ambrose you could set up plotlines that make any of them individually important, so just doing this clusterfucky thing that makes them all prop up Roman Reigns vs Sheamus feels like a copout. but it's not like they were doing anything with any of them before, so it's not like anything was really lost, either
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If only they had a team based elimination pay per view to build towards
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DEAR RICHARD posted:If only they had a team based elimination pay per view to build towards I can't wait to see Shield/Uso's vs League of Nations, and ECW vs The Wyatt Family at Survivor Series. It's going to be a great PPV.
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Didn't the League of Nations just get crushed (in a bigger form) by Ryback/Kalisto/Usos/Neville?
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