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I am now sort of interested in what Manor go with now Ferrari have pinched their livery E: and the chassis naming ridiculousness continues 2006 248 F1 2007 F2007 2008 F2008 2009 F60 2010 F10 2011 150° Italia 2012 F2012 2013 F138 2014 F14 T 2015 SF15-T 2016 SF16-H CHOOSE A SYSTEM
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learnincurve posted:Myspace angle.  regular angle
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Feb 19, 2016 15:37
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Even the rear wheel says "NO" to that car
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Feb 19, 2016 15:42
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El Hefe posted:Also why are teams still showing the dick noses I thought we had finally gotten rid of those Why would you think that? When forced to have the dick noses several teams realised they were quite useful for splitting airflow right and left, plus they are still required to have a crash structure in that area.
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Feb 19, 2016 15:55
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:Italians don't do systems. Or graphic design
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Feb 19, 2016 15:59
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Human Grand Prix posted:I have brain damage and also like the 2008 and 2009 Renault liveries as well. Agreed, you definitely have brain damage
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Feb 19, 2016 16:47
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be nice wicka posted:the red bull is good The Red Bull is good for a Red Bull, but is still not very good
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Feb 19, 2016 16:53
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Brainwrong posted:Here's this year's Sauber overalls Which team is that? I can't tell. It doesn't seem to say anywhere on those overalls.
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Feb 20, 2016 13:27
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Brainwrong posted:50? That's optimistic. Depends how you slice the gradient on the McLarens
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Feb 20, 2016 15:37
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Norns posted:Haas is good and cool cite your evidence please
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Feb 20, 2016 16:26
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Norns posted:Ferrari engine Your evidence for them being "good and cool" is them submitting to being Ferrari's Toro Rosso?
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Feb 20, 2016 16:52
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Norns posted:Yes. Also it's an American F1 team that seems to have its poo poo togeather. I'll allow it, as long as you don't let your excitement persuade you that Esteban Gutierrez is anything other than a sub-Chilton quality pay driver
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Feb 20, 2016 17:02
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Norns posted:Oh he's a poo poo driver. Magnussen is driving for Renault, the other Haas driver is Grosjean, who is pretty decent. I'm sceptical about the idea of subcontracting the chassis to Dallara, whose last chassis was deemed not good enough for HRT in 2010, and I'm not really sure how well their UK operation will blend with the chassis and engine stuff being done in Italy. They really will have to have their poo poo together to do well this season.
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Feb 20, 2016 17:17
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be nice wicka posted:dallara is only responsible for actual construction of the chassis, it's being designed by haas engineers in ferrari's wind tunnel. and it's really a joke to judge dallara based on HRT, a company who didn't pay them. Build quality is one of the things HRT didn't find satisfactory, and not being paid isn't any excuse for that be nice wicka posted:though i do agree it's going to be practically impossible for haas to keep up over the course of the season given that aero developments are apparently going to have to be designed in maranello, built wherever the hell dallara is, shipped to kannapolis? banbury? does anyone know? then finally get to the track. honestly this is a terrible setup. i think it's great to rely on ferrari and dallara in the first and year and learn from them, they should be far ahead of other new teams, but they will sit in last place indefinitely unless they shoulder the entire burden of building the car. Yeah I really think this is going to be their main problem, co-ordinating efforts between the US, UK, two different places in Italy and wherever the race is a logistical nightmare. How would they get away with doing aero design completely at Maranello without getting in trouble with the FIA? My understanding is that Banbury will be used as a base to build/rebuild cars between races when the cars aren't going straight to the next track. It seems like developing the car has too many unnecessary middle steps to be efficient. I do agree that Haas will be far ahead of the 0 other new teams. I know you mean new entrants in general
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Feb 20, 2016 17:39
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Pablo Bluth posted:He's finally no longer the grumpiest Schumacher brother. Or the slowest
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Feb 20, 2016 19:02
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I'm not sure what you're expecting Haas to be future contenders for. If they're not willing to spend enough to build their own car they're never going to be more than midfield runners. Subcontracting out everything and running as effectively Ferrari's B-team is probably enough to get the rolling Haas billboard as much exposure as a Force India, but you're kidding yourselves if you think they'll ever compete for a race win without investing considerably more than they seem willing to at the moment.
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Feb 20, 2016 19:20
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I'm questioning the assumption that Haas ever intends his team to be contending for anything beyond the midfield
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Feb 20, 2016 19:28
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be nice wicka posted:i'm fairly certain he has said something silly like wanting to win a race in five years  Well maybe if everyone chants U-S-A U-S-A enough they can do it?
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Feb 20, 2016 19:35
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I'm making the assumption he's not that naive, and he's satisfied with the prestige of owning an F1 team and the marketing/networking opportunities he'll get from it, while keeping the costs as low as he can. But I have a tendency to be very cynical, maybe he is just taking the opportunity to live out a dream.
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Feb 20, 2016 19:42
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be nice wicka posted:he's also claimed he can turn a profit from F1 OK he's a dangerous lunatic then, good to know
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Feb 20, 2016 19:57
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learnincurve posted:I predict Bernie is going to start complaining and saying that it's too hard for ordinary and new fans to tell the cars apart, and next year some sort of livery rules come in assigning one dominant colour to each team and stating that that your car must be x% that colour. Just go back to national racing colours for each driver imho
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Feb 21, 2016 16:52
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There is already a rule that prevents liveries from being too similar, but it's weak enough that Red Bull and Toro Rosso have been very similar for years
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Feb 21, 2016 17:03
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The over-abundance of white and red is more of a problem than the many shades of silver/grey, but if you can't tell those liveries apart, congratulations on being a genetic defective
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Feb 21, 2016 17:45
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When's Haryanto driving?
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Feb 21, 2016 18:15
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be nice wicka posted:it is somewhat surprising to me that the haas has literally no sponsors other than grosjean and gutierrez's personal sponsors Is Richard Mille one of Gutierrez's?
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Feb 21, 2016 19:00
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Chasing Mercedes' design is no way to beat them.
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Feb 21, 2016 19:07
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Vettel is the one desperately trying and failing to overtake a much slower car and causing a yellow flag with his steady flow of tears
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Feb 21, 2016 19:11
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keevo posted:Hass officially better than last year's Honda? https://www.facebook.com/grosjeanromain/videos/1125797174097721/ Why wouldn't they cut the first 2 and a half minutes of that video? Also the last 3 minutes
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Feb 21, 2016 19:14
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Myrddin_Emrys posted:Best looking cars this year so far for me is: The Haas looks like an unlicensed generic f1 car, and the guy making the mould slipped when sculpting the nose
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Feb 21, 2016 19:28
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It's more than just the livery. The relatively sharp transition from the body to the nose just feels a bit ugly.
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Feb 21, 2016 20:06
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Oh yeah, just like the dicknoses. Still ugly. Speaking of ugly I'm intrigued by the airbox camera mounts on the Mercedes. 
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Feb 21, 2016 20:56
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Pablo Bluth posted:So will Mercedes... They won't sabotage the cars but they'll give Lewis the worst of the two strategies they've come up with. If Nico doesn't manage to do enough to beat Lewis this season they'll replace him with Wehrlein next season unless he is really awful at Manor.
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Feb 21, 2016 21:59
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:Why does the benz have a million pitot tubes and nobody else has pitot tubes? Do germans just love measuring airflow/pressure? Williams, Ferrari and McLaren all clearly have pitot tubes, what are you talking about? E: Red Bull too
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Feb 21, 2016 22:36
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:Some of them have them but not as many and none of them put the tubes in the perfect place to catch shredded tire rubber and flap it in nico's face annoyingly Mclaren's are interesting in that they're pointing down the nose slope, rather than parallel to the ground For a very generous interpretation of the word interesting
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Feb 21, 2016 22:57
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be nice wicka posted:telcel is on the wing mirrors and richard mille is a grosjean sponsor. saxo bank is on his helmet tho. But why would Grosjean the clearly very French driver have a Swiss sponsor?
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Feb 21, 2016 23:03
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George Zimmer posted:Gross jeans was raised in Switzerland. 
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Feb 22, 2016 00:06
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11 cars on track!
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Feb 22, 2016 12:56
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Usual bacon briefcase caveat, but Sauber running last year's car is a good benchmark for measuring Toro Rosso and Haas' performance. Williams look to still be best of the rest after Mercedes and Ferrari, which is good going for them after they dropped off towards the end of last season. Force India are difficult to judge because they're using their young test driver, Renault look to be extremely garbage as expected and are weirdly using a different exhaust setup to Red Bull (one waste gate instead of two)
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Feb 22, 2016 13:11
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darth cookie posted:Yes but you'd expect increased reliability after 12 months and however many engines they grenaded. The critical test is if there is speed as well. Well the guys trackside are saying they look good through the corners and the engine sounds a lot better. They'll be cranking the power up gradually though I would've thought. First day is really just shakedown for most teams.
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be nice wicka posted:IRL photos give a far better indication of how tight the rear packaging is on the mclaren: http://www.motorsport.com/f1/photo/main-gallery/jenson-button-mclaren-mp4-31-6342103/?sz=9&r=88917&s=-6&oft=50&id=6342103&i=27 Toro Rosso's packaging is even more ridiculous, but then they know exactly how much cooling last year's Ferrari needs
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