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Myrddin_Emrys posted:New thread and no Claire Williams jokes yet? Id post her a reply in this thread. If you know what I mean fellas I'd principal HER mediocre team, if you know what I mean fellas.
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learnincurve posted:bernie and Todt just got given absolute power with the mandate to kill the f1 commission and all the working groups, remove Ferrari's power of veto, decide on the engines and to set the prices for them and to have the technical rules rewritten. The screaming I can still hear from Italy and Germany would suggest otherwise. I've read that the Ferrari veto is legally binding and they can't remove it. Or something.
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Do we know the details of the Renault/RBR split engine wise? My guess is that the Illian-based changes to the block is what Renault and RBR can start working from, but everything else will be designed separately? Is RBR going to manufacture their own blocks, or will they be supplied from Renault/Infiniti/Nissan still?
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RALF posted:I hope Renault beats Red Bull next year I have a horrible track record at predicting these things so you'll likely get your wish, BUT my gut says "nah" because: 1. It took RBR bringing in Illian to come up with solutions to the Renault powered ICE, particularly the block I guess. Up until that point Renault were stumped. 2. What are Renault going to do for their ERS system, I believe RBR was on their own and supplied that themselves. If it's going to be an in-house design they're going to have all sorts of teething issues. 3. Depending on how different the engines are between Renault factory team and RBR (completely separate based off the same design? Same engine minus the branding? Somewhere in between?) I have a feeling RBR will come up with a superior package because they've probably known this was going to happen at sometime and got some skunkworks Newey poo poo going on to make the best of whatever they have. 4. RBR chassis / aero are really good. Lotus finished last of the constructors with "best" engine. Welp. 5. RBR seems to be real good at cheating and has basically unlimited cash to throw at the problem.
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Riso posted:"multiples more valuable than TAG Heuer". Hah, multiples more than zero is still zero.
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Dubs posted:P.Sure the power unit is a unit and ERS/ICE/KERS/HGST are all from renault and redbull didnt make their own ERS and poo poo? You might be right, I think I misread the original article. RBR did do earlier versions of the ERS/KERS/whatever. TJ13 posted:Red Bull have previously demonstrated their expertise in KERS technology, as they provided the units which were bolted onto the Renault V8. Further, they developed the original energy store (ES), which was fitted to the Renault power unit inside the RB10. So it’s not out of the question that RBR have built on their previous experience in hybrid know how and invested in the R&D to deliver an MGU-H and Control Electronics unit. This is after all the organisation that crashed tested a new nose design more than 60 times to get it right.
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Lou Takki posted:Can someone explain to me why everyone hates Red Bull so much? 2015 was my first F1 season so I'm pretty confused. Purists butthurt about an energy drink company with massive pockets making the "real" race teams look like amateurs for a number of years.
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Pastor breaks $50M in aero parts every year, so he's still a net liability. I wouldn't be surprised if Renault drop him.
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Sniff Petrol - Thing no one cares about splits from other thing no one cares about
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GramCracker posted:I caught the 60 minutes interview with Their Lewis last night, holy poo poo that sucked. And 60 minutes usually puts out great segments. I could only watch about 2 minutes. Can't really go inside-baseball on F1 for the 80 year old's that watch 60 minutes. Lewis Hamilton, shown wearing non-threatening Cosby sweater - as all "colored" people are required to on CBS, had the fastest vroom car this year and he won a thing. 
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Myrddin_Emrys posted:This is all I see Someone replace lowtax's face with rosberg TIA
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While I was sick yesterday I watched these two videos, linked long ago in F1 threads past. It was pretty interesting as I know nothing of that era (mid 80s) and was surprised to see a young, ogre looking aerodynamisist Ross Brawn and the Haas name on an F1 car. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbB1qwhKaaE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqfVAGOaGEc
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Effortpost why you might want to watch some offroad motorcycle racing If any of you are looking for a race series to follow until F1 starts back up, Supercross is starting up tomorrow night and is all kinds of my jam. It is easily found in  and people even upload to dailymotion and supercross doesn't really care.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7M9hIdxSIc Some reason why it is cool and good:
Tomorrow's race has the chance to be extra interesting, it's in Anaheim (CA) and they have been getting rained on all week. Could make it a muddy mess, which can create some whacky results. Let's play a game with some of the front runners. It's called "Who is their F1 equivalent". Ryan Dungey  Reigning 2x supercross champ. Won in 09(?) in his rookie season and 2015. His trademark is consistency, his nickname is "The Diesel", which he hates. He's definitely fast but his consistency overshadows his pace. Last year he podium'd 16/17 of the rounds. Rides KTM which was a great bike last year. He also won the nationals (outdoor motocross) championship last year. Has been accused of being a pushover and not at all aggressive, he did better for sure though last year. Ken Roczen  Young German rider, 3rd year in the 450 class. Very fast, but not consistent yet. Tends to start really hot, but as the season drudges on he has lost something. Injured himself early last year and messed up his back. Used to be teammates with Ryan Dungey on KTM, but moved to a non-factory Suzuki team (think maybe Sauber or Force India) last year. Won the outdoor title in '14 over Dungey. Eli Tomac  Finished 2nd in points last year to Dungey with some injuries. Very fast, needs to get better starts. Tomac was absolutely loving dominating everyone this year at outdoor nationals (winning races by 30+ seconds) in the first 5 rounds and then had a massive crash and needed dual shoulder surgery. He moved from Honda to Kawasaki this year, hopefully he's healthy as he hasn't had a lot of time on the bike. Trey Canard  Bad luck Mark Weber, expect with skill. Trey is probably the nicest guy out there, but has had many season-ending injuries. Last year he was 2nd in points and making a good run, winning 2/3 races but ultimately had a motorcycle jump onto him and break his arm. This is his last year in his contract, he's been on a honda his whole career (this kind of loyalty is pretty rare) so it'll be interesting to see if he can stay healthy and where he can finish at the end of the year. I like this guy a whole lot, but his luck is just plain poo poo. Would love to see him win a title. James Stewart  Bubba is probably the fastest guy ever to ride a dirtbike, at least in supercross. He invented "scrubbing", which everyone now has to do. Scrubbing is turning the bike down off the face of the jump to let the suspension rebound laterally, keeping you lower. Lower = less time in the air = faster. He's either finishing on the podium or he's wrecking and finishing 15th. If he gets a good start and doesn't wreck, watch out. He was suspended from the sport all of last year because of a positive drug test (Adderal, which he had a prescription for). The FIM slammed him that his prescription was not registered with them, or something. RACISM, more like it. Most people don't really think he's a contender anymore just because he's so inconsistent, but man is he loving fast. He's won 2 titles and if he had half the consistency of Dungey he'd have 10. RIdes for factory Suzuki. Justin Barcia  The only reason I'm including this guy is because he's the Pastor Maldonado of SX. A lot of people consider him a dirty rider. He won some races last year, so he definitely has the pace. Consistency has not been there, but it's probably mostly the depth of the field. There are at least 5 other riders that have a real chance of winning a race this year, but eh 
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Norns posted:Does redbull own that sport? Monster is the series title sponsor actually. But yea, the riders are noisy rolling sponsor-thanking billboards. Roczen's title sponsor is a casino and gourmet sandwich shop. Just found out there is a thread in cycle asylum for SX fantasy leagues so I'll take my white trash motorcycles with me. dreesemonkey fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Jan 9, 2016 |
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:Motocross, the sport where everyone is Nelson Piquet Yay I made some people watch SX  Backstory: This doesn't really happen often. The puncher is going to be in a world of poo poo. The above is from the semi-final qualifying race. In the heat race, the punchee took the puncher's line away and the puncher wrecked (little to no contact made, basically a racing incident). So then it happens again by the same guy, this time much more aggressive with contact (also generally accepted). The Puncher is a "big guy" for the sport and is likened to a viking. The full 2hr event on dailymotion http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3lr0v6_2016-anaheim-1-supercross-full-event-hd-monster-energy-supercross_sport If people want some of the races you must only consult slicknick610 or cbm_racing on the twitter https://twitter.com/cbm_racing https://twitter.com/slicknick610
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Yea man, why don't car designers think about going slower in corners and allowing cars behind them better opportunity to pass?
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There will always be the "the lovely Renault powered cars" battle we have to look forward to with RBR/Whatever the factory Renault team is called to see who is worse. Mclaren might even beat them.
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funeral fag posted:I kinda like the matte bits tbh Well don't like it too much, since it's probably just a testing livery. FIA regulates that no one can do anything cool or interesting during the season. TheJudge13 posted:Jerome Stoll stated the predominantly black livery would be the one we will see through the two winter tests in Barcelona, but that the livery will change for the first race in Melbourne: “It will be equally elegant, but maybe not black.”
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learnincurve posted:Renault's PR people are currently doing the opposite to what McHonda's people did, and are telling anyone who will listen that their car may be poo poo and not able to beat red bull. This way if they do get whomped they can say "well we said we would" and if they do the whomping then "it was a fantastic surprise for us as well" Man renault is terrible, why even bother at this point. They're just going to fall even farther behind next year when there are no more development tokens and they don't want to throw money at the problem. Of course, I'm wrong a whole lot.
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F1 has been gone so long i keep thinking of the wrong "Bernie" when someone dares summon him by name
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7 teams over 100 laps today. What a difference a year or two makes in PU refinement. Alonso has done more laps today then all of testing last year.
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Wicka or hefe taking their beef out on joe's award? loving yikes https://joesaward.wordpress.com/2016/03/04/humanity-and-the-lack-of-it/
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http://www.autoblog.com/2016/03/09/us-grand-prix-cota-confirmed/ Speaking of US tracks, COTA is back on the calendar for 2016. GramCracker posted:While this would be absolutely loving awesome and I'd buy a ticket in a heart beat, please F1 don't come here and financially crush Are Watkins. At first I was like gently caress yea, it would guarantee I'd attend since I live like an hour from there, but then you had to make a good point. There isn't much up there, it's like the korean(?) race - middle of no where.
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I know logic doesn't belong in this thread, but: Redbull verbally castrates Renault for PU being awful and literally running out of ideas how to fix it = Red Bull bad We spend the entire season (and counting) bagging on the Honda PU = We're expert F1 analysts = We're so funny and cool I already know the answer, but shouldn't we give RBR some credit for calling out their lovely PU manufacturer instead of being the android corpse of Alonso stuck saying "we are making progress" in an infinite loop? I'd argue Renault is worse than Honda, they at least had two seasons of that engine and the reliability was abysmal. Half of team Dan didn't even make the formation lap at race 1 in 2015. Yea, I know RBR is whiny, but at least they weren't afraid to throw Renault under the bus. Renault will be lucky to score a point this year. Their car sure is shiny, though.
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be nice wicka posted:so you're saying we should criticize mclaren for working with their partner and praise red bull for working against theirs? and you additionally don't realize that mclaren's public face is meant to minimize damage to an organization that is giving them free engines and millions of dollars in sponsorship money, and that behind the scenes they were quite clearly reaming honda? Red bull wasn't working against their manufacturer. Red bull offered engineers to Renault, who refused until they literally got to a point where they ran out of ideas and eventually allowed red bull to bring in Illien on their own dime to try and find some workarounds. Now maybe there were some politics at play trying to purposely piss off red bull so they could drop them? Who knows. All I'm saying is Renault was poo poo and refused help, and Red Bull is coming out the bad guy because they were given the 2nd worst PU on the grid. In another season where we'll probably have a 3rd straight Hammy WDC, the only joy I'll get is seeing Renault getting their asses handed to them. I don't really care one way or the other about mclaren. They get a pass from me, it was their first year with the PU and it amazes me that they could whip together an engine that earned them some points in so little time, even though it was way down on power and on the whole quite unreliable.
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1500quidporsche posted:Red Bull could have very quietly gone door knocking to manufacturers last year and said "look we're a team that has won 4 consecutive championships, we want to win more, would you like to work with us?" and probably have gotten somebody to sign up for that and hell they may have even given them free engines on the right terms. Instead they threw their toys out the pram and now nobody wants to touch them Who are they going to get an engine from? Ferrari or Mercedes don't want to get beat with their own engine, and they're not going to lure an outside supplier in with "How about you spend $200M on developing an engine that you'll give us for free and you can slap a Ford badge on it". I don't think so.
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learnincurve posted:Red Bull have pissed a lot of other car manufacturers off via shenanigans in other race series though. It's not exactly a shocking revelation that red bull being unlikable bastards is motorsport wide. I guess? I don't watch enough other series to know, this is what I think I've read elsewhere: WRC: I know people think they ran WRC into the ground, but WRC was ruined by Loeb before RedBull bought them. NASCAR: Something about them pulling out when they realized they weren't going to win all the time? I dunno. BTTC or Australian supercars or something: Bought the top teams and dominated, pissing everyone off? I get it, I'm just the naive Red Bull apologist, but they do cool stuff with their money at least, outside of racing. They have their hands in every sport. Giving people the ability to do rad stuff for a living is pretty cool to me.
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1500quidporsche posted:This is my larger point and why Red Bull deserve zero sympathy. Ron Dennis understands the long game, today's enemy is tomorrow's friend. For gently caress says if you said in 2009 that just six years later Alonso would be driving for Mclaren and they're going to have Honda engines everyone would've laughed at you. Its highly unlikely Vettel will ever return to Red Bull and I'd be shocked if Renault give them a works engine ever again past possibly this year. A fair point. I guess it will be interesting to see what happens in the second half of the season with "Who will give Red Bull an engine - gate" or will they try and role their own with the token-less 2017 rules?
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be nice wicka posted:red bull's business model is selling ultra-high-margin drinks and then reinvesting that money into sports that make them look cool so people will buy their cool drink. this doesn't work if they are bad at those sports and thus look uncool. their success is, in large part, due to their ability to outspend everyone. that doesn't work in nascar. and it doesn't work in F1 if you don't control your engine supply and you happen to be in an engine-dominated formula. other teams will simply adapt because they are racing teams and that's what you do. red bull doesn't have time to adapt because every second they spend losing jeopardizes their investment. even the big auto manufacturers don't have this problem, because doing bad and then quitting looks so much worse from a PR perspective than working through your struggles, plus they actually get some R&D/engineering value out of the deal. red bull are unique in that they MUST win constantly for their involvement to be worthwhile, and if they don't win they get scared that they'll be shut down and start flailing around like a child trying not to drown. and that's why everyone hates red bull. That is... Actually really well put and makes sense. I'll drop the Red Bull stuff now.
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learnincurve posted:dreesemonkey seems unaware that Red bull is notoriously lovely to it's drivers. For example when Kvyat was bumped up in a hurry from Toro Rosso he was paid £50k for his first year at red bull. If a driver leaves before the 10 year young driver contract is up anything earned over a certain amount (£1-£3 mill depending on contract) has to be paid to Red Bull. Non main team drivers, also have to pay for their own travel and accommodation. When Seb was called in to do his first race, which was at BMW, he ended up sleeping on someone's hotel room floor because he could not get a room. Then you have a driver like JEV, talented lad with flashes of brilliance, could have made a solid mid field driver, but he lost Marko's insane driver vs driver death match and got dumped. Red Bull made no effort to help him out with getting sponsorship from somewhere else and now the poor sod is in Formula E. I am aware, and it is lovely to a point but they are providing 4 racing seats in F1 where no expenses are spared on the cars and equipment. I'm sure the drivers understand they're doing a deal with the devil, but they are still driving in F1 at a premier team where they may have a chance to impress other teams and jump ship. If they can't buy a seat somewhere what else are you going to do?
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Good news! The sniff petrol 2016 review is out and is entertaining to read. Maybe not as good as last year, but still good. http://sniffpetrol.com/2016-formula1-guide/#.VuqGNvynzqB
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