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Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
Farce India is confident they will close the Aston deal latest next week.

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Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
Boring as gently caress livery. Who do they think they are, Marussia??

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
http://thejudge13.com/2015/12/03/new-f1-tyre-regs-allow-will-see-some-cars-run-3-different-race-compounds/

quote:

They say there’s and easy way and a ridiculously complex and unnecessary way to do things and it appears the decision makers in Formula One always opt for the latter approach. In fact it is rumoured in the hallowed portals of the Place de Concorde that Jean Todt thinks Occam is a competitor of Gillette.

...

During a race weekend, the teams have been awarded 13 sets of tyres per car and this will not change in 2013. Pirelli will select three compounds from their range of extreme soft, super soft, soft, medium and hard compounds and the team will get to choose some weeks in advance which two they wish to run. Interestingly, the teams can opt for different selections for each driver. On hearing this news, it is highly probable that Toto Wolff and Paddy Lowe began drinking heavily.

Pirelli will nominate from its three compounds, 2 sets for each car for use only in the race. The two sets may be different compounds and at least one of these two sets MUST be used in the race.

Further, the teams must also take one more set of the softer of the two race compounds nominated by Pirelli and use it should they make it through to Q3. This leaves them freedom to choose two compounds form the three on offer from the remaining 10 sets they require for the weekend.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

1500quidporsche posted:

I'd say WCC as well but no car can compensate for how poo poo Kimi is.

The 2012/2013 Lotus had a good go at it though.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

Norns posted:

Bye bye Ferrari Historical Veto.

Todt is a Ferrari man through and through. Veto stays.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
It's not called the Ferrari International Assistance for nothing, goys.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
The ice. Energy recovery is pretty solid made with rbr help.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
RBR can't stop telling everyone who listens that they designed four different chassis; one for each engine type.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
http://thejudge13.com/2015/12/04/mallya-loses-control-of-force-india/

quote:

Diageo, parent company of Johnnie Walker which is set to become one of Ecclestone’s global F1 sponsors in 2016, have listed details of the dispute in their 2015 annual report with Vijay Mallya. Further, the global spirit’s company have now listed the Force India team as an asset of Diageo, valued at around $120m.

Following the acquisition of Mallya’s United Spirits (US) business, certain questionable inter-company transactions between US and Mallya’s other companies emerged. Diageo launched an internal investigation into “various improprieties and legal violations” allegedly committed and they requested Mallya stand down from his role as Chairman and Director of the Indian liquor firm. Mallya refused claiming inferences and allegations are unjustified and false.

The dispute relates to debts in the balance sheet of US and Diageo are seeking to recover these directly from Vijay Mallya. In June, Diageo received a favourable court ruling forcing Mallya to repay the debts and granted the asset Force India as lodged as collateral with Diegeo.

...

Come the 18th December, Diageo could take a majority stake or even full ownership of the Force India team. Recent reports suggest the team will be renamed as Aston Martin, creating a platform for the Diageo premium brands to be linked with the historic British racing marque. Aston Martin are currently undertaking a rebuilding programme and so the car maker will also benefit from improved profile Formula One brings on the world stage.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

Dubs posted:

i am stroking

Two, four or six stroke?

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
http://www.racer.com/f1/item/124275-dennis-fell-out-with-tag-heuer-chief

quote:

Ron Dennis has conceded to a dispute with TAG Heuer CEO Jean-Claude Biver that resulted in the company jumping ship from McLaren to Red Bull.

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Speaking before the Red Bull engine deal was announced Dennis said: "With regard to TAG Heuer, it was a brand we were associated with for a very long time, and we had equity involvement. I controlled the sales and marketing of that company in the early periods, I was a shareholder, it went through a variety of iterations, changes of ownership.

"Let's say the thread of history got pulled tighter and tighter, and the current chief executive and I fundamentally disagreed about some things. I didn't share his view on a radical approach to sponsorship that I felt was inappropriate for our brand.

"There was a particular moment in Monte Carlo I didn't feel was positive, so that thread was caught."

McLaren has since acquired another brand of the prestigious LVMH group in Chandon, with Dennis claiming the association to be "multiples more valuable than TAG Heuer".

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
Supposedly they only got low ones similar to Williams.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
Max is only four points away from a race ban. That will be amusing next year.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
But thanks for sharing anyway.

I just noticed I haven't saved all the dank f1 memes of this season, quelle heurreur!

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

Brainwrong posted:

“Dank Memes” is an ironic expression used to mock online viral media and in-jokes that have exhausted their comedic value to the point of being trite or cliché. In this context, the word “dank,” originally coined as a term for high quality marijuana, is satirically used as a synonym for “cool.”

To put it into context, Kimi is the dankest of all F1 drivers.

Your brain might be wrong but thank you for this wonderful explanation.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
Ferrari hasn't improved poo poo in 2015, they just managed to keep up. Williams didn't.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

El Hefe posted:

that's called improving Riso

if they hadn't improved they wouldn't have won 3 races

No, they only kept pace with Merc, which is barely keeping up.
Last year RBR took all three non-Merc victories, this year it was Ferrari.

They can't fight Merc, they didn't close any gap; they're just less poo poo than the others.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

Myrddin_Emrys posted:

Holly poo poo this thread. LC, it's time to draw up a list of which posters are autistic or Asperger's.

Everyone of us is a sperg except for you. You also have an unhealthy obsession with Claire Williams. I diagnose lack of bunga-bunga because of an ugly wife.


Sorry man.

Riso fucked around with this message at 12:37 on Dec 6, 2015

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:

Is Claire single, by the way?

Deep in the depths of a 2013 independent interview I found the name of a boyfriend: Andrew.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
She should have thought about that children thing 10 years ago. By now the only option is adoption.

:biotruths:

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

Norns posted:

Alonso looks loving regal

As is proper for a Samurai of his rank and skill.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
Supposedly Renault wants a French driver and that could mean Pastor's out and JEV's in.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
I congratulate El Hefe to the election results that will bring back toilet paper within the next five years.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
Teams pretty much build a new car for each race so it doesn't matter.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
Nobody remembers poor Ratzenberger.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
Bernie's just mad people are wisening up to his extortion and don't want to pay anymore.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

learnincurve posted:

Reminder, ferrari are no longer bothering to pretend that they are not run by evil supervillains



Pictured: Dude that looks like a SS interrogator from any war movie ever, Drug lord, and the mob boss.

Not SS, MVSN. He's Italian.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
http://thejudge13.com/2015/12/18/more-woe-for-ecclestone-with-bbc-ditching-f1-and-fom-value-halves/

quote:

Forbes revealed recently that in 2014, Formula One revenues were $1.35billion with an associated profit of $1.13billion. “But from that total some $863 million, or more than 75% of earnings, passed to the teams in the form of prize money. That left $265 million for stakeholders, a sizable dip over previous seasons (the company’s EBITDA was $426 million two years ago). Tacking on F1′s marketing and hospitality interests adds a combined $430 million in revenue, but those are mostly break-even businesses; pre-tax profits totalled just $5.2 million”.

http://thejudge13.com/2015/12/18/the-ecclestone-myth-about-f1-manufacturers/

quote:

...

The budget engine has divided F1 fans with many citing Ecclestone’s assertions that manufacturers should be less important because they come and go from F1 as they please.

Yet is this really the truth?
...

Ferrari has been in the sport since its inception in 1950.

So Mercedes have now completed 22 consecutive years of service to F1.

Since 1977, Renault have been absent from F1 for just the 1987 and 1988 seasons.

This means over the 52 years since 1964, the [Honda] has been part of Formula One for 31 years.

In fact, with the exception of Ford, these four manufacturers make up the back bone of what Formula One has been. 81% of F1 races won have been won by engines from Ferrari, Ford, Renault, Mercedes and Honda.

...

To suggest the current group of manufacturers just come and go from Formula One, is ridiculous given the facts. Once again, F1 games are being played by [Bernie] who continues to damage [the sports] reputation week on week and month on month.

If Ecclestone and Todt do get their way and a new independent manufacturer is allowed to produce the budget engine, two possibilities remain.

Firstly, the budget engine will not match the power of the hybrids and so the races will become two tier affairs – as defined by different engine specifications. The grand prix circuits of the world have seen this before, it was called Formula One and Formula Two.

Secondly, if the budget engine is allowed to compete with the hybrids of the manufacturers, then the manufacturers will leave Formula One leaving behind a glorified GP2 series of events.

The manufacturers are not incidental to Formula One – they are the backbone of the sport, and the current four have more than served their time and earned their dues.

...

Each era of dominance averages out at just over 3 years.

There are a plethora of tools at the disposal of FOM and the FIA to ensure these periods where one manufacturer is dominant are shortened. But changing the regulations repeatedly is not the solution and bad mouthing those manufacturers who are fundamental to the DNA of the sport is also painfully stupid.

The simplest solution to preventing eras of dominance is by ‘success handicaps’. Not race by race, but year on year. Forcing the winning team to run their cars for a season car with incremental ballast is both a cheap and effective solution.

Yet the purists don’t want this artificial interference with racing, so we go round and round in circles – never solving the problem – with era after era of dominance in Formula One.

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A team race analyst told TJ13 they believed Mercedes will predominantly pick the softest of the three compounds on offer as one of their tyre set choices. This should guarantee pole position and overtaking in the races will be no easier in 2016 than it has in 2015. The potential excitement will come because other teams will using the harder rubber. Mercedes may then have to reveal the true pace of their car and at race after race make more stops than others – but isn’t this as artificial as ballast?


http://thejudge13.com/2015/12/18/red-bull-double-dealings-and-what-does-constitute-an-agreement/

quote:

Christian Horner claims Ferrari and Mercedes did what they could to push Red Bull out of Formula One.

The reason?

“Our performance in the middle sector at Spa seemed to spook a few people, around the time that we were discussing with Mercedes,” says Horner, adding, “and our performance in Singapore seemed to totally spook Ferrari”.

Even if this were true, it was Red Bull’s threat to leave Formula One which offered Mercedes and Ferrari the opportunity make life difficult for Red Bull. Horner’s this theory is all well and good, except for one simple fact. Red Bull racing and Toro Rosso had contracts with Renault for engine supply in 2016. No one could in fact force them out of the sport.

The praxis continues. Apparently “Dietrich became fairly disillusioned with Formula 1”, adds the Milton Keynes boss, “and understandably so. Deals that he believed were in place that were reneged on and inevitably he was pretty upset and pissed off.”

Mmm. But wasn’t all this after Red Bull threatened to quit Formula One?

And there’s more says Christian. “When you look at what he’s invested in the sport in two grand prix teams, the circuit, all the young driver programmes… I think at one point he felt that he was being forced out, and if people didn’t want Red Bull to be in Formula 1, why should he be there and commit the funding that the group does?”

Red Bull claimed recently that the F1 sponsorship and marketing now funded the extra Red Bull budget over and above the cash received by F1? So what is Mateschitz actually spending these days?

Horner goes on to claim, Mateschitz was “personally affronted by how other teams conducted themselves,” according to Autosport. Apparently, the fizzy drinks billionaire conducts his business on the shake of a hand reveals the Milton Keynes boss. He believed following a meeting with Niki Lauda he had agreed to buy Mercedes engines in 2016. Lauda claims the handshake was just a goodbye.

Yet, are we really to believe this notion of a gentleman’s agreement being Mateschitz modus operandi? Wouldn’t the handshake with Mercedes mean that Mateschitz was then in breach of his current agreement with Renault for 2016?

Mr. Horner then concludes that all this is the fault of the regulations. “You can understand why Mercedes and Ferrari wouldn’t be particularly keen to give their biggest asset to a competitive rival team,” he says. “But this is why the rules need looking at because it can’t be right that a group of manufacturers can get together and say we’re happy to see Red Bull go to the wall.”

And here the Ecclestone anti-manufacturer polemic rears its head once again from the mouth of his devotee.

Back in the real world… No group of manufacturers set out to ‘see Red Bull go to the wall’. Red Bull had a contract for an engine for 2016 – with a manufacturer called Renault.

And finally, Niki Lauda is a jolly good chap eh Christian? Better than that bas%^&d Toto huh!

“Niki Lauda tried his hardest to make it happen and unfortunately Toto was particularly un-keen to see Mercedes power in the back of a Red Bull car,” says Horner.

Funny how black is really white and in Red Bull land it is also dotted with yellow and pink spots.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

Butt Wizard posted:

Is this supposed to be about manufacturers or engine suppliers?

A grey area, just like the engines.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

learnincurve posted:

Not even Williams as Merc is gone without Petronas and that's if they don't quit over the engine change anyway, and Toto owns 40% of williams.

Toto owns 30% of Merc and 5% of Williams. It's like the second sentence on wikipedia.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
First off, gyppo is racist, and secondly he ain't a pikey. His dad was but got better. Tyson's a good Catholic English lad.

Also Lewis shouldn't count as English; he doesn't pay his taxes there.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
Nissan’s front-engined front-wheel drive hybrid Le Mans car is no more

:rip:

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
McLaren news:

Fernando Alonso recently claimed that the Woking team would deliver around 2.5 seconds of lap time improvement this winter. Though F1 observers felt it may require McLaren to compromise their car design to accommodate Honda as did Red Bull Racing.

Eric Boullier, McLaren’s team principal in all but name, was questioned over Alonso’s bold claims and told Czech portal F1 News: “Nothing is for sure or guaranteed. But we know why we were not competitive this year. This new PU technology is great, but needs to mature. When you are unable to deploy electrical power throughout the lap, you lose seconds rather than tenths.

“So if we can fix this issue, along with a few others, we will be able to recover a couple of seconds in terms of performance.”


Jenson news:

"Everyone will use the same tyres. Unless they have a massive issue with one tyre, everyone will use the same tyres. They have limited it.

“If it was completely open and you could use any of the tyres available, then you might have the possibility of someone running something a bit different, a bit crazy. But you’re limited to three different tyres and everyone will be on exactly the same. After the first race, nobody will talk about it any more.”

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
Not pictured: his own, unloved daughter.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
Ron couldn't get the real French Moët & Chandon but had to settle for American piss copying the name.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
Whatbot brings important 2016 season news:

[22:36:44] <Riso> !8ball will alonso rejoin renault for 2016
[22:36:45] <Whatbot> Riso: The magic 8-ball answers: 'will alonso rejoin renault for 2016' Outlook good.
[22:36:57] <Riso> !8ball will mclaren still suck in 2016
[22:36:59] <Whatbot> Riso: The magic 8-ball answers: 'will mclaren still suck in 2016' Ask again later.
[22:37:17] <Riso> !8ball will pastor maldonado be out of a seat in 2016
[22:37:18] <Whatbot> Riso: The magic 8-ball answers: 'will pastor maldonado be out of a seat in 2016' Yes - definitely.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

gret posted:

You wipe your butt with paper that's already covered in poo poo?

You can use both sides, capitalist pig.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
Sacks of money and lack of options.

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Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
Too bad all we get these days is flexing front wings and increased fuel flow outside the sensor points.

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