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Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do





man she's got a LOT of extra costumes for this seeing as she is also getting a bunch of T-shirts for pre-orders, her nurse costume from Mercenaries 3D, and her basketball outfit from that one photo in RE2.

Y'all can poo poo talk about that game all you want but for some reason it has always been one of my favourites of the series (behind RE2 and RE4)

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Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!
:siren:Updates 3 and 4 are now here!!!:siren:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KFV8rXvLIM Part 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmikcdEYzEc Part 4

Here are the notes up to this part:
Botany Book
Keeper's Diary
Researcher's Will
Plant 42 Report
V-Jolt Report

Here's the Kotaku article the SNES engine claim is from (it's not even an article about RE to begin with :v:).
And here's the book I was talking about, The True Story Behind Biohazard.
Aaaaand here's my dumb article on The Cutting Room Floor comparing the camera angles between an old-rear end RE prototype and the final game.

Lady Naga fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Dec 10, 2015

sisterSyzygy
Sep 5, 2013

The funk soul brother at the back of her head has gone dark. Forever.
I made a mistake on one of the videos where I said I didn't think there was an independent games winner in the game awards, but I'm a big dumb idiot and forgot. There is!

Video games suck, so it doesn't matter.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
For the record, pharmaceutical labs love farmland. The midwest is full of great areas to use as testbeds for new chemicals.

Golden Goat
Aug 2, 2012

CommissarMega posted:

Whoops, I thought Golden Goat was talking about the below costume:

Truth be told, I think it looks cool.

I actually was talking about that costume. The top half isn't bad but it looks like once they got to the bottom half they decided it wasn't sexy enough and went with thigh boots.

Like even in the picture Wesker's upset she's wearing it.

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Fair enough. It;s just that, between stuff like cheerleader and cowgirl costumes, I thought 'Sexy COBRA Operative' was definitely a step up.

Golden Goat
Aug 2, 2012

Spose your right, they are getting better. Definitely a step up from the ones in Rev2.

Anyway LP question: you just plan to do one runthrough with Chris, right? we're not doing a rerun with Jill are we?

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!
We're playing through the original as Chris, taking a short sidegame break, then playing Director's Cut Dualshock as Jill.

e: Again please refrain from asking questions of what we will/won't be playing, we're planning on updating fast enough that you'll know sooner rather than later.

Choco1980 posted:

For the record, pharmaceutical labs love farmland. The midwest is full of great areas to use as testbeds for new chemicals.

They still wouldn't headquarter there though, right? Like; sure you build all your labs in the midwest, but you'd keep your HQ in a big high-rise building in a major city so you look huge and important.

Lady Naga fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Dec 10, 2015

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
I just kind of assumed that Raccoon City was the sort where it built up around the major industry there, but then I'm from Michigan, where Detroit built up around Autos on the one side and Battle Creek around breakfast cereal on the other.

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!
Raccoon City is a really weird place in general, considering it's a population of a little over 100k but has a glorified SWAT team made up of over twelve people.

My home city of Sudbury has a population of 160 and is made up of several townships kinda smooshed together and the idea of a SWAT team existing at all within it is kind of inherently laughable.

Leave
Feb 7, 2012

Taking the term "Koopaling" to a whole new level since 2016.

Choco1980 posted:

I just kind of assumed that Raccoon City was the sort where it built up around the major industry there, but then I'm from Michigan, where Detroit built up around Autos on the one side and Battle Creek around breakfast cereal on the other.

Hey, don't forget about our...

Uh...

Man, there ain't poo poo in this state.


Lady Naga posted:

Raccoon City is a really weird place in general, considering it's a population of a little over 100k but has a glorified SWAT team made up of over twelve people.

My home city of Sudbury has a population of 160 and is made up of several townships kinda smooshed together and the idea of a SWAT team existing at all within it is kind of inherently laughable.

Didn't Raccoon City originally start out as a smaller city?

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!

Leavemywife posted:

Didn't Raccoon City originally start out as a smaller city?

I believe the first and only time they actually talk about the population of Raccoon is the end of 3 where they talk about deaths "surpassing the 100,000 mark" so I guess it's up to you, the viewer to decide what the population really is.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
meh, Michigan isn't terrible industry wise. Or at least, it didn't use to be. A surprising amount of companies started here but moved out in the 60s-80s for whatever reason. Like I recently learned that the Daisy BB gun company (who make the Red Rider from A Christmas Story) started in Garden City. Out by my mom's in the Kalamazoo area there's some major pharmaceutical facilities that seem to change hands often. For a while they were all owned by Pfizer, the guys who make viagra.

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!
Yeah well Ontario has uh...Minerals...Maybe some fish!

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus
According to the wiki, Racoon City was originally a small town, then got bigger when Umbrella opened a chemical factory there, which caused a population boom.

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!
I guess the main point of contention is that I interpreted "based in" to mean "has the headquarters there", but it could also mean "controls the local economy there".

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




Well I think they kind of realised that after the fact so they ended up building up the story that Umbrella really was international. I mean Code Veronica starts with Claire in Paris supposedly at the European headquarters (now why any French government office was ok with an attack helicopter opening up on a building in downtown Paris is a different discussion) and from there Umbrella just retroactively got bigger.

So the Dualshock version eh? Never gonna forget that music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kcF7E69C6Q

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!
I think the bigger problem with Code Veronica is that Umbrella owns its own private prison island that nobody thinks about or questions.

e: Also yeah the director's cut stuff plus the soundtrack change in Dualshock was enough to make me feel like it's worth taking a look at.

Lady Naga fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Dec 10, 2015

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

Lady Naga posted:

I guess the main point of contention is that I interpreted "based in" to mean "has the headquarters there", but it could also mean "controls the local economy there".

I don't think the two are mutually exclusive. Like in my example of Battle Creek Michigan, Kellogg's and Post are both centrally located there, with most of the relatively small city built up around their success, and they certainly both have international presences. BC has only a little over 50K in official population, so I guess Raccoon City is a bit bigger, but the model stands, making Umbrella the reason RC thrives not at all unheard of.

Judge Tesla
Oct 29, 2011

:frogsiren:

Aces High posted:

Well I think they kind of realised that after the fact so they ended up building up the story that Umbrella really was international. I mean Code Veronica starts with Claire in Paris supposedly at the European headquarters (now why any French government office was ok with an attack helicopter opening up on a building in downtown Paris is a different discussion) and from there Umbrella just retroactively got bigger.

So the Dualshock version eh? Never gonna forget that music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kcF7E69C6Q

That's probably the most out of place music I have ever heard in a game, hearing it today is still as funny as when I first heard it years ago.

Leave
Feb 7, 2012

Taking the term "Koopaling" to a whole new level since 2016.
Usually, I like RE music. It's usually atmospheric and spooky (the save room music in RE2 comes to mind), but that tune...

Jesus.

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!
It's really hard to not talk about the Dualshock music right now but trust me we'll be gabbin' extensively about it.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
Haha, jeebus. That tune is 1982 as gently caress.

ZogrimAteMyHamster
Dec 8, 2015

First time I heard that 'music', I legitimately thought something had hosed the game up. It's incredible to think that someone actually listened to that and said "yes, this is a suitable replacement piece".

Golden Goat
Aug 2, 2012

Whenever that soundtrack comes up i'm always reminded of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoRrd3FqXWY

I makes every horror scene perfect

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



Lipstick Apathy
fantastic thread title.

ZogrimAteMyHamster
Dec 8, 2015

Golden Goat posted:

Whenever that soundtrack comes up i'm always reminded of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoRrd3FqXWY

I makes every horror scene perfect

I knew what the video was going to be before I even clicked the link. Once again I'm crying with laughter at it. You magnificent bastard.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
It sounds like it belongs in this short film:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApN_tMRWPEo

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!
:siren::siren::siren:FINALE TIME!:siren::siren::siren:
These are our last three updates for Resident Evil (1996)!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-jcOB3Dx7M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvznkQbMtYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAVdQ7Srd_Q
And the files:
Scrapbook
Orders
Researcher's Letter
Fax
Security Protocols
(There are also the three codes, but we see those in game and they're just bible verses anyway)

And here's the Japanese ending for the first game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyn4C4Bw8B0
I still really really like the song we get in the US version, but this is pretty good too.

Thanks so much for showing up! Very, very soon we'll be ready to move on...Next time, on Dragonball Z!

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
Thanks for that. Being the noob I am, I have some questions. From least serious to most...

Why the hell is there a giant snake and giant spider in the mansion? Literally everything else gets explained.

Why did Wesker's hair spontaneously go from blonde to black in the climax?

I'm assuming what happened to Barry is revealed in Jill's story

Um, if I'm reading the notes correctly, did Rebecca do exactly what Umbrella wanted to by blowing up the mansion?

And finally, what was Wesker talking about before he shot Rebecca? There is absolutely no way I made out that back and forth between him and Chris over you guys cackling over Chris' delivery...

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!

Choco1980 posted:

Why the hell is there a giant snake and giant spider in the mansion? Literally everything else gets explained.
Same reason as all the other monsters, Umbrella's modus operandi is to inject things with goo and make them bigger. I don't know if the spider has a name but it's weird that they gave the snake one and then left it out of the slides.

Choco1980 posted:

Why did Wesker's hair spontaneously go from blonde to black in the climax?
It gets covered in the weird blood texture is all, he's blonde in like every other game.

Choco1980 posted:

I'm assuming what happened to Barry is revealed in Jill's story
If you play through Chris' story then you get Rebecca as a partner and Barry is assumed dead, the opposite is true for Jill's playthrough. I'm sure they weren't planning on either character ever showing up again, I'm pretty sure they didn't have any plans for a sequel (which is most likely why it has tenuous connections to the first).

Choco1980 posted:

Um, if I'm reading the notes correctly, did Rebecca do exactly what Umbrella wanted to by blowing up the mansion?
Yes. Everyone in this game is a moron, but I respect Rebecca's enthusiasm for blowing stuff up.

Choco1980 posted:

And finally, what was Wesker talking about before he shot Rebecca? There is absolutely no way I made out that back and forth between him and Chris over you guys cackling over Chris' delivery...
It's incredibly confusing and makes absolutely zero sense. Wesker used to work for Umbrella as a reasearcher, but then joined the STARS, but apparently he was a double-crosser? Or not, maybe. Wesker's most likely lying through his teeth so the best explanation I can give is that he's still on Umbrella's payroll and joined the STARS as a sleeper agent for decades so he could finally be promoted to a leadership role so he could sabotage the STARS just in case they might someday investigate the secret mansion lab that Umbrella owns. The timescale is really confusing and honestly the plot in this game does not matter at all because it all gets retconned 5 installments later.

e: To elaborate on the Barry point a bit, both stories contradict eachother so up until the remake the official canon was "both have a little bit of truth in each" (this may also be the line for the remake, but from what I remember both paths leave a little more wiggle room for stuff to co-exist). This doesn't really matter until the climax, but the last 24 minutes of both stories are very different and it makes little sense either way.

Lady Naga fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Dec 15, 2015

ZogrimAteMyHamster
Dec 8, 2015

Choco1980 posted:

Why the hell is there a giant snake and giant spider in the mansion? Literally everything else gets explained.
Accidental/unavoidable exposure to the virus once the mansion outbreak was engineered.

quote:

I'm assuming what happened to Barry is revealed in Jill's story
Sort of, the canon for the original game scenarios is all sorts of broken with the only 'game' based on the events showing all the survivors escaping together being a pachislot, of all things.

quote:

Um, if I'm reading the notes correctly, did Rebecca do exactly what Umbrella wanted to by blowing up the mansion?
Almost, except that Wesker's unforeseen betrayal, along with the surviving S.T.A.R.S. members being able to blab about Umbrella's activities and intentions, threw a rather large spanner in the works on that one.

quote:

And finally, what was Wesker talking about before he shot Rebecca? There is absolutely no way I made out that back and forth between him and Chris over you guys cackling over Chris' delivery...
Some nonsense about going rogue with stealing the T-virus research for his own means and establishing his own ludicrous supervillain plans for complete. Global. Sa-... oh right, that bit's still some way off. He's just revealing his intent to betray Umbrella (shortly after betraying his own bloody S.T.A.R.S. unit, although that was always the idea regarding this mission of his), and then just flat out admitting he shot Enrico. It's a hell of a lot of waffle though.

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!
He actually says nothing about betraying Umbrella, his motives in Chris' playthrough are practically nonexistent. In Jill's though there's no mention of him "formerly" being with Umbrella so it's assumed he's still working with them and attempting to further their agenda.

Wesker's motives are actually so unclear they had to do an entire mocumentary with him as the narrator actually explaining what the gently caress he's trying to do.

ZogrimAteMyHamster
Dec 8, 2015

Good point, nothing is explained properly during the speech at all! It's just got to the point now that because I've played through the series so many times my mind just fills in the blanks with most of the plotholes and related gubbins. Oh dear.

Lady Naga posted:

"formerly"
Huh, I've always heard this word as "formally" during Wesker's not-explanation. Not that it really clears much up.

quote:

Wesker's motives are actually so unclear they had to do an entire mocumentary with him as the narrator actually explaining what the gently caress he's trying to do.
I still have a hard time believing that this is actually a thing.
Edit: I've just remembered the Dualshock music for Wesker's speech. Good god, now it seems even more ridiculous/fitting when you realise the scene makes no sense.

ZogrimAteMyHamster fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Dec 15, 2015

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!

ZogrimAteMyHamster posted:

I still have a hard time believing that this is actually a thing.

It's 23 minutes long and is the most awkwardly worded, edited, and acted thing I've seen from this series.

ZogrimAteMyHamster
Dec 8, 2015

Lady Naga posted:

It's 23 minutes long and is the most awkwardly worded, edited, and acted thing I've seen from this series.

Holy poo poo, even moreso than anything from RE:Survivor? Because that one remains top of my list for unintentional comedy just for being so goddamn horrible.

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!

ZogrimAteMyHamster posted:

Holy poo poo, even moreso than anything from RE:Survivor? Because that one remains top of my list for unintentional comedy just for being so goddamn horrible.

That's the problem, it's not unintentionally funny like Survivor or the first game is. It's written juuuuust competently enough that it sounds reasonable but awkwardly enough that if you pay attention it's strange and offputting. You can look it up if you want but since it talks about stuff from 2 and 3 I'll be posting it in the thread after we wrap up Nemesis as a leadin to Veronica.

ZogrimAteMyHamster
Dec 8, 2015

Hah, I can wait for that one. Sounds like it'll be uncomfortable listening, especially when it supposedly even creates more plotholes and problems.

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!
Whenever I see a new post in the thread I'm like

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ZogrimAteMyHamster
Dec 8, 2015

You'll just have to imagine that there's a GIF of Chris slamming the desk and saying "drat!" to go with how I feel when I don't see replies in threads I like.

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