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Edit: Lucky Ship List + Ship Database Woo! Calling the Chokai! THANKS DRONE! code:
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2015 18:26 |
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 21:59 |
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Lucky ship list
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2015 19:14 |
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If I get some class designations wrong or the wrong ship, please let me know. Some names come up several times, or I make a typing error. Also, I'll try to keep a running ship database going with all the ships that show up in Grey's posts.
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2015 19:47 |
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Gnoman posted:EDIT: On that subject, has anybody claimed the Fubuki? Nope, and I put you down for it.
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2015 20:38 |
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Nth Doctor posted:Can we claim ships not yet built? If so, I'm pulling for the Hiyō, the the most salutatory carrier that has ever sailed. The last LP had at least one person claim an island, so anything goes! I'll add it to the list.
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2015 21:13 |
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OpenlyEvilJello posted:Excellent. Any ambitious data tracking projects this time around? I considered logging the date of first appearance for each airframe, but I probably won't bother (since I'm about to embark on something similar for Rule the Waves...). I'm going to try and track every ship that makes an appearance, hopefully including their last known position or when, where and how they were sunk.
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2015 22:29 |
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lenoon posted:We're back! Well done Grey on both the baby and the WiTP fronts. Looking forward to another incredible ride. Hermes was already claimed. chrisoya posted:It's me, I'm the CV-not-appearing-in-this-LP Aso. It won't exist in this timeline, do you want to pick something else? Gamerofthegame posted:This was actually an American Strategy, or at least this line of thought; they reused ship names. For example, the Yorktown was sunk at Midway after a lengthy career of punching the Japanese in the face up and down the Pacific. She was succeeded by the, well, Yorktown, a later model of carrier. This was rather confusing to Japanese Intelligence reports and also extremely demoralizing. "Wait, I thought we sunk that one?!" etc. Is this a claim? Because its already taken. Please disregard if it is merely my lack of sleep. If I missed anyone so far, apologies. I think I got everyone so far...
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2015 06:50 |
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DD Helm sunk eh? Shine on you crazy intelligence reports
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2015 18:43 |
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Takanago posted:Whew, the Kongo is safe. Would have been embarrassing to get some major damage or sinkage on Day 3. I didn't keep the sunk dates, unfortunately (or they were unconfirmed). 2014-2015 WitP game The first non-Repulse/Prince of Wales kill was suspected to be the USS Lexington after a fuel store exploded via torpedo by SS I-168 on the 16th of December 1941. (Edit: I think Grey got the points for it, but intel reports didn't confirm it at the time) The first confirmed kills were a tie between CL De Ruyter and CL Java who caught an amphibious TF and sunk enough ships to cause 1600 casualties, before being eliminated by an IJN TF that intercepted(?) them on the 23rd of December 1941. Lexington was chosen by apseudonym De Ruyter was chosen by Tevery Best Java was chosen by Koesj
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2015 19:15 |
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BgRdMchne posted:Does the Monsoon Group show up in this game? If so, give me U-178 Not as far as I know, no.
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2015 06:28 |
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Drone posted:Get that goddamn carrier. Saratoga
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2015 18:32 |
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What are some of the gamey strategies that you can do if you are really good at the game? Isn't it better as a JP player to not do Pearl Harbor and instead race the KB to the Philippines or something? Going for the US carriers immediately instead of Pearl Harbor is pretty gamey, IIRC.
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# ¿ Dec 12, 2015 02:51 |
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Palladium posted:Anything is gamey to a degree if players diverge from historical, I mean after all this is the entire point of the game right? Gamey is taking advantage of pre-positioned units or coded effects that you wouldn't know initially or without looking at the game's code. Not following the historic timeline just makes it ahistorical. Since the US carriers always start in the same location, and the AI isn't always the smartest, you can go after them ASAP and wipe out a major portion of their available carrier force.
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# ¿ Dec 12, 2015 03:33 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:
You don't even need to divert the KB for that, just focus your aircraft against Manila. I should really put more effort into learning WitP, you can get a lot of mileage out of low-altitude strikes. (And I'm a huge ww2 nerd/aircraft sperg)
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# ¿ Dec 12, 2015 03:44 |
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A White Guy posted:This thread hasn't generated any topics for the thread to discuss endlessly yet. We could go over old favorites like Saving 1. For when he loses a division at Clark Field from accidental shock attack 2. Kongo will sink because it got too close to Singapore, without air cover 3. That's like a fine wine, it only truly becomes a conversation topic in 2 years
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2015 07:36 |
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sullat posted:In a more serious note, how bad was losing all those transports and invasion troops from that lurking carrier? If this is a game about snowballing in the first few months, seems like minor incidents like that could really make it difficult to establish his perimeter before the invasion bonus wears off. Losing transports is something Japan can't replace constantly. Losing some is pretty normal, as they'll be targeted by subs, aircraft, coastal guns, etc; you have to figure that the number of transports available will go down, but it'll take a while before you reach a critical level where you are no longer capable of doing anything.
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2015 16:44 |
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SOLarian posted:Looks like the game is 50% off at Matrix Games right now. Decisions, decisions... Get WitP or Get WitP Tough call.
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# ¿ Dec 17, 2015 15:59 |
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The Worst Muslim posted:Any ships left? I want to claim one. My first choice though would be to claim a place. Tianjin/Tientsin, China Literally thousands, but you'd have to check the list to figure out which ones have already been taken.
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2015 08:37 |
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The Worst Muslim posted:I claim DD Uranami if I can It shall be done, once I get access to the spreadsheet again
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2015 08:50 |
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fredleander posted:I was about to say the same. Not only Bismarck - Taranto - a pattern for Pearl Harbor. Of course, like any other old torpedo plane at the time it was defenseless against a good fighter. Look at the Devastator, supposedly much more modern than the Swordfish and the Vildebeest. As much as the plane, in air torpedo warfare the crews were as important as the materiel, including the torpedoes. That said, what are the RN Vildebeests doing in the Philippines? Britain had a lot of territories near the Philippines. Also, Bismarck and Force Z had no air cover, Taranto and Pearl were surprise attacks.
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2015 09:17 |
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fredleander posted:Yes, but in the scenario I refer to they fly out of Clark Field, Luzon. Quite uncommon for the British to use their resources for anything else than the defense of Singapore/Malaya. The Allied computer controls all allied units simultaneously, so that isn't too strange. As for the second part of my post, its especially critical that they had a huge advantage in so far as they had no opposition from enemy aircraft. The biplane torpedo bombers get too much credit, in my opinion.
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2015 14:06 |
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lenoon posted:Remember that we romanticise the living poo poo out of the war, and there's nothing more romantic-heroic than the stringbags being flung against the Bismarck, and winning. And threads like this help us learn things, I'm just putting those Swordfish in their place Torbeau's for lyfe
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2015 14:26 |
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biosterous posted:There are too many images on this page so I'm hoping to help start a new page. Its the season, the season of giving Grey a new page to post on.
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2015 15:55 |
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Puukko naamassa posted:Looks like Yukikaze hasn't been taken, so I'd like her as my lucky ship. Will do, once I get back to my reg PC
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2015 15:56 |
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HerraS posted:Since no one has claimed the USS San Diego I shall. Will do. New page achieved.
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2015 15:56 |
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Grey Hunter posted:You guys are going to laugh so hard in a few days time...... I already am
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2015 11:37 |
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LeadSled posted:RIP Kido Butai, killed because Grey forgot to load any planes aboard. Hint: Carriers should not engage in broadsides with enemy cruisers.
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2015 11:48 |
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A White Guy posted:Do the allies have a limited number of APs? There is a limited number of everything, I think they start with
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2016 03:04 |
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The West Point has a capacity of for 7800 troops and 2500 cargo. Definitely something Grey wants to sink The Mount Vernon is a 6700 troop carrier with 2200 cargo. Wakefield has the same capacity as Mount Vernon. Dominion Monarch can carry 5800 troops and 1800 cargo. Basically, the transports Grey is hitting are some of the best transport ships the Allies have at the moment.
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2016 03:09 |
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Drone posted:For the last thread, I posted a big dump of info from the game manual for all the ship designations. The complete list with commentary for what each type actually means can be found on this Google Spreadsheet, in case Grey Hunter wants to put it in the OP or Jobbo_Fett in his third post like last time: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjMTZZbe1060dE91VHM3SVYtNndWSkJIbkxydlJVOFE&usp=sharing Edited into my post, I'll create a 3rd spreadsheet for it as well. For quicker reference. Double-thanks!
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# ¿ Jan 3, 2016 08:15 |
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Yorkshire Tea posted:I found the Sealion talk on the previous page super interesting. Did the Germans ever really have a plausible win point for the war? Could they have conquered all of mainland Europe, not invaded Russian during Winter, won in Northern Africa and then just peaced out of there until they got their nukes working for Britain? They needed a lot more luck/wins to have even a hope of winning the war in its entirety. Aside from Russia, they controlled all of mainland Europe apart from Switzerland, Sweden, parts of Turkey and Portugal/Spain (although Spain was friendly with them). Not invading Russia is way deep into gay black Hitler territory. "Winning" North Africa would've been a lot easier with more air power devoted to that front, making it safer to transport supplies over the mediterranean and doing more to prevent the RN from resupplying as quickly as they did irl. If they somehow manage to prevent war with Russia and the US, I'd say they could've peaced out for some time.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2016 14:31 |
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Drone posted:Well, they invaded Russia in June, not winter. But yeah, the Russian winters (and in particular the muddy pre/post-winter seasons that are unique to that part of Eurasia) were completely underestimated by the Germans. Was it '41 or '42 that was the worst in recent history as well? Not destiny-changing, but doesn't help their situation at all.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2016 14:31 |
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Loggie posted:Can I have the Zuikaku as my lucky ship again, please? Can't give you a ship that's already taken.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2016 16:17 |
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Loggie posted:Can I have the Amagi instead? As long as it hasn't been taking, you can have anything. (This is more for people still on the fence about picking a ship) Lucky ships are updated, aside from maybe last day seen/location.
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2016 01:37 |
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Welp, lasted a little over a month.
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2016 18:49 |
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Belisarius6 posted:I'm stunned at the reaction I've received for my link to Suvorov's "Icebreaker". The only reason I used the "Justice4Germans" website was because my Google search showed it had the book available online. I never stated support for Nazism - in fact I immediately followed up my first comment with a statement that Hitler was going to attack the Soviet Union regardless of any provocation or threat. Yet forum participants are all over me for being a Nazi sympathizer. Someone changed my avatar, I'm assuming the moderator himself, to a cum covered Iron Cross. What the hell? This is why the U.S. is collapsing before our eyes - nobody's willing to make a serious effort at understanding any viewpoint that differs from their own - even when that viewpoint is, all in all, very much the same. You didn't put any serious effort in finding a more credible source for your argument, and linked to a clearly pro-nazi website. Accusing mods of changing your avatar is dumb, and if you're so offended go re-reg or buy something else.
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2016 19:06 |
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TildeATH posted:Who was the guy that said we should have had flying boat bombers instead of aircraft carriers? Was there any truth to his claims? This sounds like a joke someone made referring to how dangerous the flying boats could be, as seen at some point in Saros' thread. Could definitely be wrong though. Aircraft Carriers are much better than Flying Boats though.
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2016 05:16 |
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Lord Koth posted:Well, there were always such fine ideas as the F9C Sparrowhawk or XF-85 Goblin. Because why bother with ships when you can just mount your fighters on other planes(or airships, as the case may be)? TB-3 or bust
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2016 07:56 |
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Veloxyll posted:The Sunderland - an experiment in how many .303s you can mount on a boatplane. If they were 20mm's we'd have something to talk about. H8K
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2016 11:56 |
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 21:59 |
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fredleander posted:Should we not make some space for mr. GH now?
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2016 13:41 |