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its really good about just throwing around nonsense and expecting you to take it at face value, which is good
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this thread made me buy the game.
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Dec 14, 2015 16:50
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Is Chocolina's backstory revealed in XIII-2 or LR. I forget, and I hope it's LR because that's a really ridiculous reveal and I wanna see it again.
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Dec 14, 2015 16:51
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In Training posted:Is Chocolina's backstory revealed in XIII-2 or LR. I forget, and I hope it's LR because that's a really ridiculous reveal and I wanna see it again. its in the 13-2 sazh dlc
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elf help book posted:its really good about just throwing around nonsense and expecting you to take it at face value, which is good The hyper serious tone and really high budget art design and music while people talk about the most insane sounding proper nouns that barely form actual sentences is a huge reason I really like the XIII trilogy.
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elf help book posted:its in the 13-2 sazh dlc Dammit.
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In Training posted:Is Chocolina's backstory revealed in XIII-2 or LR. I forget, and I hope it's LR because that's a really ridiculous reveal and I wanna see it again. it is pointlessly revealed a second time in lr so you can look forward to that
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it's weird how much of an 'unpolished/western rpg' feel bits of this game have. at the start of the game, I began talking to the the inquisitor, and a random crowd npc began walking into him mid-conversation and pushing him out of frame. this happened again a few minutes later. also, seeing a door open and a crowd npc phase through the solid wall directly behind it. about ten hours in now and enjoying it a lot. going to fight the boss of the desert zone next time I play.
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In Training posted:The hyper serious tone and really high budget art design and music while people talk about the most insane sounding proper nouns that barely form actual sentences is a huge reason I really like the XIII trilogy. So far it's real good but I hate that Vanille is the cliche comic relief Japanese character who is voiced by someone doing what an Australian sounds like in anime land. But that's OK because everyone else is really cool.
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Dec 14, 2015 16:58
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Larry Parrish posted:So far it's real good but I hate that Vanille is the cliche comic relief Japanese character who is voiced by someone doing what an Australian sounds like in anime land. But that's OK because everyone else is really cool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsSY4svjABA
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Dec 14, 2015 16:59
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There's actually a reason for Vanille insane accent, don't worry.
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In Training posted:There's actually a reason for Vanille insane accent, don't worry. its because the game is made by crazy people and it rules
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PleasingFungus posted:it's weird how much of an 'unpolished/western rpg' feel bits of this game have. at the start of the game, I began talking to the the inquisitor, and a random crowd npc began walking into him mid-conversation and pushing him out of frame. this happened again a few minutes later. My favorite touch is that whenever you complete a side quest and save someone's soul, every NPC in the area instantly zeroes in on your position and starts a cheering animation
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i cant remember if that interview contains spoilers dont actually watch it
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In Training posted:The hyper serious tone and really high budget art design and music while people talk about the most insane sounding proper nouns that barely form actual sentences is a huge reason I really like the XIII trilogy. I think it's bad and I like when stories are good instead.
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Dec 14, 2015 17:03
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In Training posted:My favorite touch is that whenever you complete a side quest and save someone's soul, every NPC in the area instantly zeroes in on your position and starts a cheering animation I met up with the drunkard's wife's friend in the graveyard, while she was busily walking in place into a gravestone. after the reveal that the wife had died, the friend began cheering excitedly. strange woman.
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Ragg posted:I think it's bad and I like when stories are good instead. I think only 6 and 7 had good stories.
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Dec 14, 2015 17:08
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Ragg posted:I think it's bad and I like when stories are good instead. can cool replace good
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In Training posted:I think only 6 and 7 had good stories. I dont like 6s story at all. But 7s is wonderful.
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Feel like the characters in 13 make up for it though
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Ragg posted:Feel like the characters in 13 make up for it though 
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I don't think the XIII characters are very interesting...it's like Lightnjng and Sazh are cool and that's it
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Dec 14, 2015 17:24
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i like that, in 13, much of their characterization is different archetypes of dealing with tragedy or grief because their world and lives are in so much poo poo
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I like when Lightning punches Snow. Also the summons are the most insane thing ever lol. Lightning can ride a horse that flies and drops rose petals.
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Dec 14, 2015 20:12
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elf help book posted:no, youre supposed to pick it up as you go along, i think theres also an in game dictionary or something like that This is why a lot of other JRPGs have main protagonists with amnesia, to justify having other characters explain their fantasy world to the audience. Past FF games were great about introducing parts of the world through a ragtag party that could put a personal face on their respective cultures and job classes, long before setting foot in their weird villages. In half the games you only have a summoner in your party to explain the role that summoning plays in the larger world, otherwise why would you give a gently caress about what happens to summoners? It's amazing how FFXIII kind of blindly lifted the big story beats of past FF games without understanding how or why they worked. FF7 started with a train hijacking so why not this one? FFXIII's characters all have the same background and live in the same world, so no one really explains anything to each other (with few exceptions) and you have to use the in-game codex as a crutch to understand basic terms. It also expects you to care about saving a world that you haven't seen, can't interact with, and only wants to kill you for the whole game. Which is a shame since the fabulis crystalis nova world or whatever is pretty interesting. When you read about it. In the codex.
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je1 healthcare posted:This is why a lot of other JRPGs have main protagonists with amnesia, to justify having other characters explain their fantasy world to the audience. Past FF games were great about introducing parts of the world through a ragtag party that could put a personal face on their respective cultures and job classes, long before setting foot in their weird villages. In half the games you only have a summoner in your party to explain the role that summoning plays in the larger world, otherwise why would you give a gently caress about what happens to summoners? its cool that theres no idiot there asking basic things about the world they all live in
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It's really annoying in FFX when every scene has someone turning to Camera 2 and calmly explaining everything that we just saw happen to Tidus again, and then he has a brief internal monologue processing the events and restating them.
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I like F13 more for not explaining everything. Having the main character being an amnesiac/detective/foreigner of some kind is so insanely overused that it's really refreshing to not see that for once. They use the character's pain and grief as a tool to make you care about them, and get this: it works, for me.
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elf help book posted:its in the 13-2 sazh dlc I didn't do the Sazh dlc and found out by collecting all the fragments. One of them being collecting a fragment from a baby chocobo chick in the casino of the regular game where it's then strongly hinted that it's Chocolina. Not sure if there's a more direct reference in the dlc or w/e but, that's how I found out
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I think the DLC makes it a big reveal with a cutscene of flashbacks and like, connecting the dots that leads to footage cutting between the chocobo chick in his afro to a shot of Chocolina and back again, etc. At least that's what I remember.
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she directly explains it all
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Dec 14, 2015 20:38
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Dec 14, 2015 20:39
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In Training posted:It's really annoying in FFX when every scene has someone turning to Camera 2 and calmly explaining everything that we just saw happen to Tidus again, and then he has a brief internal monologue processing the events and restating them.
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That was cool but probably not worth doing the gambling DLC, imo. This is the fragment I was talking about :
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Dec 14, 2015 20:47
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Daikatana Ritsu posted:That was cool but probably not worth doing the gambling DLC, imo. This is the fragment I was talking about : haha i forgot about that
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Dec 14, 2015 20:48
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To avoid sounding like too much of a negative nancy, FFXIII's art and sound direction were fantastic, the battle system was great, and it has the best UI I've ever interacted with in a video game.
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I've never thought about what the best UI I've ever seen in a a game was
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I really liked X's story. Maybe that's just on me though. I thought the world+characters were really great.
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