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slumdoge millionare
Feb 17, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Grimey Drawer
Since Quidam Viator will never get off his sorry rear end and do this thing, here we loving go.

quote:

Quidam Viator
If not after this election, then just one or two more.

It's not like the shitstorm of retarded conservative feelings that Trump et al are stirring up are some loving fad that's just going to... magically go away if a Democrat wins the presidency. No, dumbasses, it's BETTER for there to be an Obama for them to blame, and buck against and just use as an utter loving scapegoat to eat up all the attention while they assrape the country from the county and state level ALLLL the way up through loving Congress. This is what you call a "win-win" for conservatives; all they rely upon is you still believing that effort from within this system is going to change a goddamn thing. Then, every drat election they don't win just gives a few more years for graft and rape, a few more years to rile the base, a few more years to grow more vicious, more angry, more panicked. By all means, keep sincerely voting for those Democrats!

gently caress, my accelerationist heart has grown three loving sizes since I last checked in on SA's election threads. At this point, there are literally no good answers if you are trying to sincerely vote for "good outcomes". Honestly, the BEST thing for the GOP and American conservatives is for a Democrat to win. Then they get either 4 or 8 more years to absolutely assrape America, shut down budgets, keep trying to defund everything from Obamacare to Planned Parenthood, while some sad-sack, isolated Democrat in the loving Oval tries to play defensive ball with legislative minorities all the way down to loving dogcatcher. MEANWHILE, all that happens is that the mere fact that a Democrat WON AGAIN will make The Onion's "Shrieking, White-Hot Sphere of Pure Rage" look like a tempest in a loving teacup. Look at the poo poo they're already comfortable saying: it's loving fascism, and they are getting away with it, and socking away the cash from the legions of assholes who feel like they're FINALLY BEING HEARD. God, what a win for assholes everywhere if EITHER Democrat wins. Of course, there's decades of loving butthurt and insane, incomprehensible rage against Hillary, but holy poo poo! If Bernie, by some freak accident, were to squeak out a win? How the gently caress many of TODAY'S Democrats are going to caucus with him with the wind blowing the way it is? If you are still out there thinking that if only you put a D in the White House, that America can be saved, you are the problem in America, and you are the GOP's best friend.

Yeah, their second choice is for their establishment boy to win. Then we get the strangling in the streets business, but medium-style. Now there is absolutely no barrier whatsoever for a complete turnover of the Supreme Court to the Business Court, and we see the power of a fully-armed and operational establishment GOP. They can use the Teabaggers as they wish, and still run the boards, because their poo poo is conservative ENOUGH: military pork, surveillance, killing net neutrality, destroying unions, the post office, etc, etc...

But the third choice is my FAVORITE, and I don't need any loving Christmas presents because you know what? Mine has already arrived. There's a chance that a true rear end in a top hat wins this thing, and the fact that the CHANCE exists means it will soon be time for every do-gooder, middle-of the road "we have to work within this good and still-viable system" rear end in a top hat to get off their rear end before they are rounded up for the concentration camps along with me. gently caress, if Trump wins, he taps into the profit-driven, absolutely-uncontrolled id of EVERYTHING in this country: from the media, to the military, to business, to the beating heart of red-state America. And it will be horrific. Everything begins to march in lockstep time, and oh yes... America will be "Great" again. But like I said; he doesn't even have to win. He has validated the concept that a fascist, never-served-in-the-military-OR-in-any-government-position rear end in a top hat can stroll up to the presidential trough and BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY. It doesn't have to work this time, because there will be a next. And a next, and a next, and a next, and that means the end of the American Republic. And good loving riddance.

There's about a 50/50 chance we come out of the nightmare of that transition in a world completely ruined. The only SURE THING is that if a Democrat keeps taking the White House while Republicans and the loving Koch Brothers and Adelsons of the world run the actual show, that climate change, financial rape, resource depletion, and absolute failure to govern will destroy all of human society. There has never before in history been such a position where doing the same thing has been such a sure ticket to absolute ruin. We are in that position right now: we have the power to simply keep doing what we're doing, and we're guaranteed an extinction event.

So before you call me loving insane like you always do, you tell me what your BEST-CASE-SCENARIO is, and how it solves any of these global-magnitude problems within a timespan that saves all life on Earth. Until then, loving pray for President Trump, and hope that the sheer horror of that man and his actions actually wakes up America and the world to our own loving goddamn idiocy, and sheer, gutless apathy before we render this entire planet sterile.

I've always wanted to say this, and drat it feels good: THE END IS NIGH, MOTHERFUCKERS!

Acceleration 2016.

He makes a decent drat point. There really is no hope, is there? Moderate Republicans get primaried, moderate Democrats don't matter because the eternal font of hatred the loving gun wielding psychos listen to openly advocate purging the unamerican LIEberal DEMONRAT scum who MURDER BABIES and WANT TO BUGGER YOU. Is it just too loving late, should be go ahead and shove the car off the cliff it's teetering on?

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RBC
Nov 23, 2007

IM STILL SPENDING MONEY FROM 1888
yes

Nosfereefer
Jun 15, 2011

IF YOU FIND THIS POSTER OUTSIDE BYOB, PLEASE RETURN THEM. WE ARE VERY WORRIED AND WE MISS THEM
no

JonathonSpectre
Jul 23, 2003

I replaced the Shermatar and text with this because I don't wanna see racial slurs every time you post what the fuck

Soiled Meat
Could be.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment I'm alive, I pray for death!

Close and goldmine.

CAPS LOCK BROKEN
Feb 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

slumdoge millionare
Feb 17, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Grimey Drawer
This guy is really something.

quote:

During the hearing, the judge issued a gag order for law enforcement and the parties involved. As the judge and attorneys were discussing who was included in the gag order, Dear interrupted.

"The babies that were supposed to be aborted that day, could you add them to that list?" he said.

King requested that the judge order prompt discovery in the case so the defense team can learn "the depth of Mr. Dear's mental illness."

Dear interrupted, "You're not my lawyer."

King told the judge the sharing of evidence was vital. "It's rather ironic that prosecutors have not disclosed one piece of evidence," he started.

Dear interrupted, "You're trying to silence me."

King told the judge "I think the problem is obvious, your honor."

...

The judge spoke to Dear and advised him of his right to a preliminary hearing within 35 days.

Dear told the the judge, "Planned Parenthood and my lawyer are in cahoots because they don't want the truth out."

King told the judge he wasn't confident that his client was competent to make a choice about his legal rights.

Dear interrupted, saying, "I'm competent."

He went on, "I'm not going to agree to mental health evaluations so they can't put me on psychotropic drugs so I can't talk like the Batman guy."

LITERALLY the topic. This is the actual thing that has caught on with about 50% of the country, and it's not getting any better. Obama was supposed to bridge the divide- we saw how loving far THAT got. Oh, and as far as people currently slated to next become POTUS- we have a woman who has been hated vitriolically by the right for multiple decades, a literal socialist Jew, a guy threatening religious registries and ethnic cleansing, and a guy who recently attended a conference where the founder was calling for the execution of gays. Could this be fixed? At all?

furiouskoala
Aug 4, 2007

Doomtalker posted:

This guy is really something.


LITERALLY the topic. This is the actual thing that has caught on with about 50% of the country, and it's not getting any better. Obama was supposed to bridge the divide- we saw how loving far THAT got. Oh, and as far as people currently slated to next become POTUS- we have a woman who has been hated vitriolically by the right for multiple decades, a literal socialist Jew, a guy threatening religious registries and ethnic cleansing, and a guy who recently attended a conference where the founder was calling for the execution of gays. Could this be fixed? At all?

You could support Jill Stein!

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Doomtalker posted:

Obama was supposed to bridge the divide

[citation needed]

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007

Witchfinder General

Actual facebook post

When I grew up in the 80s & 90s, mass shootings were never heard of...then after Columbine things began to change. Killing & cruelty have become commonplace and ppl are becoming numb and twisted. Video games, tv and the Internet must be the culprits as those became more violent and uncensored around the time this all began. Don't let these babysit ur kids!! Guard your their minds and teach them to love all living things. These are the last days


I don't even know family member i don't even.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDa2rwwZHeE

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007

Witchfinder General

END OF DAYS

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005
I'm gonna leak a whole bunch of CFCs into the atmosphere for shits and giggles.

Anubis
Oct 9, 2003

It's hard to keep sand out of ears this big.
Fun Shoe
If you want to see where accelerationism gets you, check out the Kansas politics thread. Hint: Everything turns to hell, nothing appears to be improving and generally doesn't make people vote more reasonable in the future.

I'd like to get off the ride now please.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m74KOFZYOWM

fade5
May 31, 2012

by exmarx

Anubis posted:

If you want to see where accelerationism gets you, check out the Kansas politics thread. Hint: Everything turns to hell, nothing appears to be improving and generally doesn't make people vote more reasonable in the future.

I'd like to get off the ride now please.
Alternatively, if you really want to feel the effects of accelerationism, move to Syria, Somalia, or Yemen, or read the Middle East thread.

There is no bottom to the misery, it can always be far, far, far worse than you ever thought possible.

fade5 fucked around with this message at 03:12 on Dec 10, 2015

TimWinter
Mar 30, 2015

https://timsthebomb.com
Related, I've been helping my car run out of oil because I want a new one.

George Rouncewell
Jul 20, 2007

You think that's illegal? Heh, watch this.

Anubis posted:

If you want to see where accelerationism gets you, check out the Kansas politics thread. Hint: Everything turns to hell, nothing appears to be improving and generally doesn't make people vote more reasonable in the future.

I'd like to get off the ride now please.
trump will be your next president, he will gently caress everything up and america will absolutely love him

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP
e: gently caress

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
I hope you guys watch those videos, they are really good. Seek knowledge - seek peace - seek enlightenment. Troll the material forces who rule this little rock.

asdf32
May 15, 2010

I lust for childrens' deaths. Ask me about how I don't care if my kids die.
Anyone who wants trump anywhere near the presidency is insane.

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

McDowell posted:

I hope you guys watch those videos, they are really good. Seek knowledge - seek peace - seek enlightenment. Troll the material forces who rule this little rock.

same but be baha'i instead

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008

I'm going to vote for trump and watch america descend into hell while laughing

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008

Sorry, goals were a bit lofty in that last post, I'm going to vote for trump and watch america get a little more stupid while laughing in public places until i get bored and go home and browse cat memes on the internet

im gay
Jul 20, 2013

by Lowtax
Large portions of Earth will be uninhabitable in a few hundred years, nothing matters. Kill yourself or just have fun.

Rodatose
Jul 8, 2008

corn, corn, corn
Accelerationism relies on the narcissistic belief that, if things got worse, people who were uninformed of systemic problems would come to see the same objective truth you see, because it's so obvious. When in reality, the perception of systemic problems can be shaped heavily by media, and those who are in power are going to have a better chance of coordinating their media to shape uninformed people's perceptions, and in doing so, convince them to work in ways to reinforce their positions of power.

CalmDownMate
Dec 3, 2015

by Shine
Lol you think there's a car to shove or there's any chance of any kind of revolution happening.

The reactionaries have co-opted the revolution. Socialism and leftism are both essentially dead and there is no hope of a revolution ever occuring period. No matter how bad things get.

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

Rodatose posted:

Accelerationism relies on the narcissistic belief that, if things got worse, people who were uninformed of systemic problems would come to see the same objective truth you see, because it's so obvious. When in reality, the perception of systemic problems can be shaped heavily by media, and those who are in power are going to have a better chance of coordinating their media to shape uninformed people's perceptions, and in doing so, convince them to work in ways to reinforce their positions of power.

No, people being terrible and turning to fascism is only happening because things are going so well, if we just ensure that things become terrible they'll certainly become rational individuals.

Ernie Muppari
Aug 4, 2012

Keep this up G'Bert, and soon you won't have a pigeon to protect!

CalmDownMate posted:

Lol you think there's a car to shove or there's any chance of any kind of revolution happening.

The reactionaries have co-opted the revolution. Socialism and leftism are both essentially dead and there is no hope of a revolution ever occuring period. No matter how bad things get.

petitebourgeoisreactionarygarbage.txt

CalmDownMate
Dec 3, 2015

by Shine

Ernie Muppari posted:

petitebourgeoisreactionarygarbage.txt

Please continue to make things worse for working class people thinking it will shift them somehow to the left when historically and evidentiary all it is doing is shifting them further right.

Please try to demonstrate a single socialist revolution that has occurred in the past 40 years that actually left people better off or was even socialist in nature.

Teriyaki Koinku
Nov 25, 2008

Bread! Bread! Bread!

Bread! BREAD! BREAD!
Accelerationism is dumb and bad.

Once we get to the horrible consequences accelerationism brings, things do not magically circle back to 'great' like a Flintstones backdrop or a trampoline; it just makes things harder to get back to 'not-horrible'.

At best, you have the social-political-economic order from before completely decimated to start from scratch, possibly after real human cleansing and environmental destruction on a scale of a World War and the Holocaust. I don't think we - or the planet - can handle that sort of thing again with the technology we have now and the environmental stressors at stake.

The only real way forward is to dig in the mud and muck and pull on the Tug-of-War with what ground we have now as hard as we can. You can't give an inch.

Teriyaki Koinku fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Dec 10, 2015

Dazzling Addar
Mar 27, 2010

He may have a funny face, but he's THE BEST KONG
If accelerationism was ever a valid political philosophy, it was most likely before planet earth was facing an anthropogenic extinction event. As it stands, I'm afraid that even if we accept the basic idea of accelerationism as correct (which, to be honest, I have trouble swallowing), we would quite literally destroy the planet's ability to sustain human life before we ever reached the wrap-around point where everyone realizes what fools they've been.

Ernie Muppari
Aug 4, 2012

Keep this up G'Bert, and soon you won't have a pigeon to protect!

CalmDownMate posted:

Please continue to make things worse for working class people thinking it will shift them somehow to the left when historically and evidentiary all it is doing is shifting them further right.

Please try to demonstrate a single socialist revolution that has occurred in the past 40 years that actually left people better off or was even socialist in nature.

yeah all those communist revolutionaries are really just asking to be death squadded with all their rabble rousing and nationalizing of infrastructure we could profit from

clearly the only right way to change things for the better is to work within the system that's run on the blood sweat and tears of the global poor, and vote for one of their local nato approved candidates, or alternately just accept that we gave them a king/warlord

Mrit
Sep 26, 2007

by exmarx
Grimey Drawer
Accelerationism comes from the same place as small children knocking over the game board because they didn't win.

Edit: I guess with the belief they will get to play Candyland like they wanted to next time

CalmDownMate
Dec 3, 2015

by Shine

Ernie Muppari posted:

yeah all those communist revolutionaries are really just asking to be death squadded with all their rabble rousing and nationalizing of infrastructure we could profit from

clearly the only right way to change things for the better is to work within the system that's run on the blood sweat and tears of the global poor, and vote for one of their local nato approved candidates, or alternately just accept that we gave them a king/warlord

Please continue to tell me how well your strategy has loving worked for improving the conditions of the working class in any country on earth. Thanks.

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


Rodatose posted:

Accelerationism relies on the narcissistic belief that, if things got worse, people who were uninformed of systemic problems would come to see the same objective truth you see, because it's so obvious. When in reality, the perception of systemic problems can be shaped heavily by media, and those who are in power are going to have a better chance of coordinating their media to shape uninformed people's perceptions, and in doing so, convince them to work in ways to reinforce their positions of power.

Well the true accelerationist hardcore go with the Olduvai scenario. It doesn't matter who holds the means of production when the means of production gradually dissolve as the biosphere becomes too poor to support intensive cultivation, and humanity falls back into the Stone Age forever. Where they're going, we don't need media. Or literacy. Or agriculture. Or 95% of the people currently alive. :shepicide:

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe
There's a hard ceiling to Trump's poll numbers.

*breathes into paper bag* there's a hard ceiling to Trump's poll numbers

Ernie Muppari
Aug 4, 2012

Keep this up G'Bert, and soon you won't have a pigeon to protect!

CalmDownMate posted:

Please continue to tell me how well your strategy has loving worked for improving the conditions of the working class in any country on earth. Thanks.

efforts to resist imperial conquest and exploitation around the world have done more to help the global working class (even in the empire) than our ostensibly civilized and benevolent ruling class ever has

Woolie Wool posted:

Well the true accelerationist hardcore go with the Olduvai scenario. It doesn't matter who holds the means of production when the means of production gradually dissolve as the biosphere becomes too poor to support intensive cultivation, and humanity falls back into the Stone Age forever. Where they're going, we don't need media. Or literacy. Or agriculture. Or 95% of the people currently alive. :shepicide:

yeah, jerk it hard to that orientalist nightmare scenario you've been sold on by the same assholes who currently profit from death and destruction

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


I'm actually making fun of it, but I suppose it should be obvious you're far too up your own rear end to recognize comedy on a comedy internet forum.

P.S. your precious resistance efforts haven't amounted to poo poo, they were either co-opted by the Soviet empire (and dessicated and blew away when the Soviets were no longer there to prop them up), destroyed by the American empire, or degenerated into oligarchic kleptocracy. Capital crushes people like you without even the slightest effort.

Woolie Wool fucked around with this message at 08:07 on Dec 10, 2015

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Ernie Muppari
Aug 4, 2012

Keep this up G'Bert, and soon you won't have a pigeon to protect!

Woolie Wool posted:

I'm actually making fun of it, but I suppose it should be obvious you're far too up your own rear end to recognize comedy on a comedy internet forum.

P.S. your precious resistance efforts haven't amounted to poo poo, they were either co-opted by the Soviet empire (and dessicated and blew away when the Soviets were no longer there to prop them up), destroyed by the American empire, or degenerated into oligarchic kleptocracy. Capital crushes people like you without even the slightest effort.

keep on heil'n

:v:

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