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I had something pithy to say about the whole Ashley debate, but then I remembered that "Remember the Alamo" is something people still say, so I'm pretty sure it's irrelevant.
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SubponticatePoster posted:"Oh look here's another randomly generated mountain that's a pain in the rear end to drive over." I'm pretty sure those mountains weren't randomly generated but painstakingly handcrafted for our maximum enjoyment.
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Dr. Buttass posted:I had something pithy to say about the whole Ashley debate, but then I remembered that "Remember the Alamo" is something people still say, so I'm pretty sure it's irrelevant. Well, in this case, the Alamo in your analogy is actually still relatively relevant to the ME 'verse.
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SubponticatePoster posted:There's nothing wrong with playing a soldier. It's that 80% of people never even changed the name, face, or class, just mash "John Shepard" and go. Ha, well ... I did that, too. For both sexes of Shepard. I could not get a decent looking male or female Shepard worth making - which is to say, I couldn't get anything remotely human looking. So, default male and femshep, down to the given names. Watching the second video, I know we don't get the full effect of it just yet, but it reminded me how disturbing those Prothean visions get, with the whole meat + metal thing going on. I don't remember that getting a lot of traction in discussions, but it really got under my skin. So to speak.
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Regalingualius posted:Well, in this case, the Alamo in your analogy is actually still relatively relevant to the ME 'verse. I always though it was funny (in a  sort of way) that the Turians first thought when finding a new race was "Shoot it, follow it back home and shoot it's home".Yeesh.
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Dec 14, 2015 19:29
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If you're going to be a racist, you might as well be a space racist where the differences between species are real. Humanity First
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Dec 14, 2015 19:44
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Uh, I believe that's "yoomanity."
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Dec 14, 2015 21:00
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SubponticatePoster posted:Uh, I believe that's "yoomanity." my god, it makes perfect sense. Trump is TIM.
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Dec 15, 2015 00:58
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Regalingualius posted:It's more that she became massively blander than she is in ME1, save for a couple of scenes you kind of have to go out of your way for. ME3 is not kind to Ash in terms of both character and mechanically as a squadmate, ME3 is kind to Kaidan in both. Also Citadel has some good Kaidan scenes. Food of my people! It's not a huge deal either way - both their roles are small in the remainder of the franchise (for some reason?  ) but a lot of people who kept Ash alive from ME1 read about what Kaidan got in ME3 and then either save edited or started Yet Another Trilogy Replay. Having done both, I think in the grand scheme of things it makes more narrative sense for Kaidan to stick around, but ultimately who cares, do what you like.
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divedivedive posted:Ha, well ... I did that, too. For both sexes of Shepard. I could not get a decent looking male or female Shepard worth making - which is to say, I couldn't get anything remotely human looking. So, default male and femshep, down to the given names. I hear you. I have made exactly two good non-default Shepards. It's hard. It's made worse that you have to rebuild them in each game and they look different in each game and  the best/worst part of ME1 is spending a lot of time in the character creator, you start the game, long intro sequence, dramatic walk up the Normandy CIC to the cockpit, camera does DRAMATIC FACE REVEAL---- restart game open character creator repeat
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Dec 15, 2015 01:08
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Psion posted:the best/worst part of ME1 is spending a lot of time in the character creator, you start the game, long intro sequence, dramatic walk up the Normandy CIC to the cockpit, camera does DRAMATIC FACE REVEAL---- This is every single Bioware game though
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Fanzay posted:This is every single Bioware game though
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MA-Horus posted:my god, it makes perfect sense. the last election cycle used that one
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SubponticatePoster posted:At least DA now gives you the Black Emporium so you can fix (or break) poo poo. A magic mirror doesn't exactly fit in with ME but I'm sure they can handwave it away with mass effect fields! Just slap some omnigel on your face!
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Regalingualius posted:Well, in this case, the Alamo in your analogy is actually still relatively relevant to the ME 'verse. I mean the battle of whoever basically IS space-Alamo in just about every respect, so... mauman posted:I always though it was funny (in a Some turian general in...maybe this game, my memory's bad and I wasn't giving the video my full attention so maybe we've seen it already, compared it to chasing a child away from a light socket or similar but in general I think it's considered bad parenting to follow the kid to their room and beat them again just to show 'em who's boss. And they're not even humanity's real dad!
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Psion posted:ME3 is not kind to Ash in terms of both character and mechanically as a squadmate, ME3 is kind to Kaidan in both. Also Citadel has some good Kaidan scenes. Food of my people! I guess there's not much point in giving Ashley or Kaiden larger roles in ME2/3 when one of them blows up in nuclear hellfire later in the game, and for me, it was always Kaiden, 100% of the time, because I did not care for him at all, even in 3. I had the same issues with Jacob from 2, did not care for him one bit.
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Oh hey these games. Cool. I am one of your 20%. My FemShep looks a little bit like a gothic Davina McCall. What does annoy me though is how obviously she walks like a man sometimes. I get that mocap is not the most costless thing in the world, but my god especially that cutscene at the start of ME3 where she lumbers up those stairs like the hanger is still stuck in the back of her shirt. The voice acting is splendid for her but... sometimes... I've never played a Vanguard, though. Should be interesting to see! I always let Kaidan survive. It just seems more fitting for Ashley to be there, she's a soldier and she was on borrowed time anyways as far as I'm concerned. If Shep hadn't showed up she would've died anyway, now she can return the favour. 
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Vanguard is pretty boring in ME 1, but it just rules in ME 2 and ME 3. I'm also really disappointed that you did not post about the new LP your Dragon Age thread, SubponticatePoster  Also, Kaidan rules, I can't stand Ashley in ME 3.
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SubponticatePoster posted:FemShep is a straight-up badass soldier and the only dumb holdover is that her armor has boobs. For what it's worth, the US Army recently introduced female-specific body armor. It doesn't quite have outright boobs, but it does have different proportions for women because the normal armor doesn't fit properly and is more of a hinderance than a help. The new female-proportioned armor feels lighter and is easier to move around in because it fits the body and distributes the weight better. It's a conceit, but I just imagine that future armor applies this principle to the point that the ceramic/whatever plating is tailored to the individual's body through future-science instead of being mass produced one-size-fits-all, so it's not so bad. Certainly not as bad as swaying butts in the sequels. RickVoid posted:As much fun as we make of "What does this Alien's sweat taste like", it's sort of a natural extension of the level of Sperg Bioware put into the game. Still awful, mind you. What does alien sweat taste like is tame, Fightclub Sandwich and I were playing MP where the other two were on mic talking about Krogan Vaginas for half the match. I don't think either of us said anything during the whole match. I know my mic was muted and I was laughing my rear end off. Did you know Krogan females have five of them? Judge Tesla posted:I'd dislike aliens too if I'd spent my life being poo poo on by humanity because my Grandfather surrendered to the Turians because he was massively overwhelmed by them, this is kind of why Ashley isn't fond of them, is it an excuse? Not really, but it is a main reason for it. She's also never spent any time around them before she arrives on the Citadel, and as you near Virmire, she starts to realize that maybe she was wrong all this time. Character Development! nine-gear crow posted:make them hospital buddies in 3 so they could trade stories about what an awful girlfriend I was to both of them.  Is this a thing that actually happens, or is it just what you imagined happened?
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I don't normally watch LPs of games I've played but your DAI LP was so good I'm on board. ME1 will always be my favourite even if mechanically it's the worst. It just chimed so much with all the years of reading science fiction, handing me a universe on a plate that I was used to having to use my imagination to produce. If I could somehow break down my love for it at the time I think 1/4 minimum would be labelled 'Skyboxes'. I'm tempted to say another 1/4 would be the Galaxy map and it's accompanying music.
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Fwoderwick posted:I don't normally watch LPs of games I've played but your DAI LP was so good I'm on board. I agree with everything but this: quote:ME1 will always be my favourite even if mechanically it's the worst. For it's also the buggiest.
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My Q-Face posted:Did you know Krogan females have five of them? And then there's the poor males getting the short end of the stick with only two. My Q-Face posted:She's also never spent any time around them before she arrives on the Citadel, and as you near Virmire, she starts to realize that maybe she was wrong all this time. Character Development! You know I never really bought Ashley's character development on this, I always felt like she was going "these aliens who I know personally are okay but they're weird outliers and the rest of their species still all suck."
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Dr. Buttass posted:You know I never really bought Ashley's character development on this, I always felt like she was going "these aliens who I know personally are okay but they're weird outliers and the rest of their species still all suck." All of this talk about Ashley has made me wonder if anybody has made Kaiden go in the opposite direction. It's strange to say the very least. Psion posted:I hear you. I have made exactly two good non-default Shepards. It's hard. It's made worse that you have to rebuild them in each game and they look different in each game and The first time I played this game I tried to model my Shepard after Kurt Russels character from the movie Soldier. Boy howdy was he one ugly gently caress.
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My Q-Face posted:
More or less. You can ask Thane to look over Kaidan while he's comatose and flat out say "yeah, that's my ex, by the way." And there are like consecutive scenes with Thane and Kadain once Kaidan wakes up that are basically "so... you hosed that guy" scenes. You can even hook back up with Kaidan while Thane is still alive. Its hilariously awkward and lovely of Shepard and because Thane and Kaidan are both such dogged nice guys, they both just let her steamroll over both of them.
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Femshep all the way. It just feels right, I don't know how else to explain it.
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RickVoid posted:Femshep all the way. It just feels right, I don't know how else to explain it. Superior voice acting?
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eh, there are aspects to both that work and aspects to both that don't. If you want a playthrough that is mostly for taking the piss then you should go with Mark Meer since he gets the comedy aspect a lot better, but if you want to take the series seriously then you should go with Hale. I mean "I should go" is waaaaaaay funnier as delivered by Meer and the ribbing of it in Citadel is also funnier because of how the set up. The endorsement in ME2 is hilarious because of Meer's deadpan delivery but quite a few of the more serious scenes don't have the same emotional punch with him and that's fine.
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I mostly remember him for "Whatever he did, he probably deserves worse" spoken with complete disinterest while watching a Turian beat the poo poo out of a prisoner.
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IIRC Meer was a bit more jekyll and hyde with his paragon/renegade divide whereas femshep sounds more even - like both line sets could easily be coming from the same woman. For that reason Meer vs Hale comes down to personal preference in roleplaying style imho since it's not a question of incompetent vs competent delivery to me.
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mauman posted:The first time I played this game I tried to model my Shepard after Kurt Russels character from the movie Soldier. Roughly half of my RPG characters are named Cyrano.
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And I'm just sitting here, having consistently good results with the ME1 character creator
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The first time I played the game, I tried to make a Shepard that looked like me. The results were... unpleasant, and not (only) because I'm an ugly bastard. In ME2, I just gave him the default face and pretended that was what he looked like all along.Alexeythegreat posted:And I'm just sitting here, having consistently good results with the ME1 character creator 
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ME1 especially has a bad habit of giving FemShep duckface. She'll look fine straight on, then turn her head and she could eat apples through a picket fence. Update is currently processing.
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Doc Morbid posted:I may be able to create a non-hideous dudeshep if given enough time and not trying to model him after my own ugly mug, but I've never managed to make a femshep I was happy with. The mouth always ends up looking too wide and reminding me of The problem with the ME1 builder (and to a lesser extend ME2's) is that the way it animates mouths doesn't work for all of the mouth rigs, so you can give yourself too small of lips and suddenly they expand to encompass this giant mouth and Oh god reset let me try again. anilEhilated posted:I'm a firm believer in the "there's only two points on a slider: minimum and maximum" school of visual design. 
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Alexeythegreat posted:And I'm just sitting here, having consistently good results with the ME1 character creator You can get great results if you're just screwing around with the system and not trying to make someone specific. There's an old site made by a goon iirc, the mass effect face database, that has a bunch of great ones w/codes.
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hard counter posted:You can get great results if you're just screwing around with the system and not trying to make someone specific. There's an old site made by a goon iirc, the mass effect face database, that has a bunch of great ones w/codes. Precisely what I'm doing. Or, rather, not doing
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hard counter posted:You can get great results if you're just screwing around with the system and not trying to make someone specific. There's an old site made by a goon iirc, the mass effect face database, that has a bunch of great ones w/codes. Yep. http://mass-effect-2.facesofgaming.com/ - this is all ME2 because that was when the site was founded but there's a site you can plug in ME2 face codes and get ME1 slider values. It's not 100% perfect but it works...ish. compare, for example, http://imgur.com/Kp7G69N http://imgur.com/FLvylq1
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Watching the first video... Are you making GBS threads me? I played this thing a thousand times and it's the first time I see those three farmhands. They really tucked them in a corner.
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Pimpin' ain't easy We are supposed to go meet with the Council to discuss the disaster on Eden Prime. Instead we go screwing around (literally). The Citadel is much like the Hinterlands in DAI - it's a huge starting area full of sidequests where if you try to do all of them right off the bat you'll burn out and get bored. I may do some of these for XP and whatnot but won't show them on camera because the large majority are stupid fetchquests. We meet some of the other major races in ME, the elcor and volus. Elcor are big  cow-like things who speak in monotone. Insincere endorsement, this is a great LP and you should watch it. Volus are bowling balls that breathe ammonia and live on high pressure planets so they wear funny suits. They also tend to be portrayed as traders and bankers and fixated on money.And let's talk about the Asari, shall we? An interesting concept (a monogendered race that doesn't really have sex to reproduce) that gets buried under obvious wank material. All the Asari are attractive (within the graphics limitations  ) and sexual and are either strippers, mercenaries, or stripper mercenaries. The first time we see Benezia she's wearing a ridiculous outfit and has giant bazoombas - and she's the equivalent of your 70 year old grandmother. At least the games sometimes take the piss and make jokes about it.Also we meet two of the best future squadmates.
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Enjoying this LP so far. The ME series has been something I've been meaning to pick up, except that I watched my brother play the series and that made me apathetic. Not just that I've seen how everything ends, but I also saw all the parts I found subpar. Even if they are small compared to all three games, knowing you won't enjoy something makes it hard to commence.SubponticatePoster posted:And let's talk about the Asari, shall we? An interesting concept (a monogendered race that doesn't really have sex to reproduce) that gets buried under obvious wank material. All the Asari are attractive (within the graphics limitations Don't forget that they all are also super good at sex. In fact, some are too super good at sex.
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