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I'd describe Japanese mediums up to tier 8 as good guns with large, poorly armored tanks built around them. They don't need any special skills, just some restraint because they are so fragile. I'd recommend going down the light line then branching to the mediums to avoid the first 3. The lights are just plain better tier for tier. As for the tier 5+ mediums, it is all about the guns. The Chi-Nu/Chi-Nu Kai have competitive DPM, slightly higher alpha, slightly lower ROF, and way better gun handling than the other tier 5 mediums. Chi-To plays like a bigger Chi-Nu at tier 6. The Chi-Ri is YOOGE and gets a three round rapid fire autoloader with great handling, 10 second reload, and heavy tank like burst damage potential. Try to play them all second line support/TD style, because you will be relatively slow in speed and traverse, increasingly huge, and have no armor. STA-1 almost feels like you've switched to another nation. Its decently mobile and great at ridge work, but still has no armor and the gun handling doesn't feel as good as the other tanks in the line. It feels like a Pershing without the good gun mantlet. That's as far as I've gotten, but from what I've seen the Type 61 and STB-1 continue trading a bit of the gun handling for a better overall tank. TL;DR: Up to tier 8 pretend to be a TD, farm damage and feel ok about it. Treat tier 8+ like American mediums.
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Cubey posted:The AMX Chaffee is also a dual crew trainer for American and French crews, and I think there's also an American/German trainer as well. Speaking of, the AMX Chaffee is a goddamn amazing tank. I can't think of any american/German cross nation premiums. Now if we're talking seal clubbing premiums the Pz. IIJ is great of you don't wanna run a profit. The BT-SV is also amazing. The angling of the armor is just ridiculous. But I think for premium seal clubbers the SU-76I is where it's at. It's got a great gun and pretty good armor and gets preferential matchmaking. Unfortunately all the fun ones are pretty rare and it's probably gonna be a while before they are sold again. But just for an always available premium you can't go wrong with the Super Pershing. I drove the e-25 in testing, it seemed good but I just have not got around to purchasing it. As far as premium time it just depends on how much you play. It does go on sale, especially around the holidays. But at regular price buying 30 days at a time is an okay deal.
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The German/American cross trainer I was thinking of the PZV/M10, which apparently isn't actually a cross trainer. Thought it was, oh well. The BT-SV is a lot of fun but I don't bounce shots anywhere near as often as I'd expect in it. Worth buying just for how ridiculous it looks though. I hate the PZ IIJ, it's impossible to turn a profit and even with gold shells that thing can't penetrate virtually any tier 3, and even most tier 2 tanks it'll have trouble with. Maybe if it had flanking potential, but nope. At least it was free, but then so was the PZ 38H and that thing is literally better against tier 2 and tier 3 tanks than the PZIIJ despite being a tier lower.
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Just wanted to share that after doing some serious hardcore silver grinding this weekend I finally have a shiny new IS-7. By serious hardcore grinding I mean I spent maybe a total of 6 or 7 hours solely dedicated to grinding silver. I spent about 4 hours on Saturday playing tier 4-6 matches with some friends (and apparently a random goon? MrSugarDaddyBear69? Good games if you're here, dunno who you are really though  ) and then going back and forth between the is-6 and su-122-44. I stopped when I got to 4.1M silver (up from 1.4 where I started the day). I was going to keep going on Sunday but a friend of mine had just started playing the game so I joined a couple people with him and was doing T1,2 and a couple T3 matches towards the end. Then back to the IS and SU to finally finish the grind. Finally had my first ~150k silver match in the IS. That felt good. And yes, I was definitely running premium time all weekend. Now I just need to do another couple hours to get the silver for the equipment on it. Then I can go back to working on the British TD line (I just want the death star because it seems hilarious), the german heavy line (the E75 and E100 look stupidly fun with their armor and health) and the British heavy line (stuck on the Churchill VII, the level of fun went down drastically after the matilda). I also spent time this weekend getting up to the M5 Stuart and stockpiling XP on it to get ready for the new american medium line because the autoloaders on that line look pretty fun.
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Chinese tanks are finally coming to PS4. I highly recommend the heavy and light lines, the 110 and WZ-132 are just incredible.
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What are their selling points? As I've said before, my only real heavy experience so far has been the IS7 line. I was going down the British heavy line, but got super burnt out trying to grind through the Churchill VII and just gave up.
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They are like the IS-7 line except better. The IS-2 is a slightly better IS, the 110 is better than the IS-3, the WZ-111 1-4 is better than the IS-8. The 113 is worse than the IS-7 but honestly gently caress tier 10 anyway. If you liked going up the Russian IS line you'll like the Chinese heavy line even more. Their light line basically gets a bunch of medium tank guns on much faster chassis', they are ridiculously deadly if you are a competent light tank driver. e: also a lot of people don't respect the WZ-132, which leads to games like the one I had right after I posted.  Tier 10s don't fear the WZ-132 at all, but they really should. I spent that whole match just sneaking behind fools and shooting them in the rear end while they remained focused on the other tier 10s on my team. This was after three other tier 10 games that went: 3,000 damage the first game, 3,500 spotting damage the second and 5,100 spotting damage the third. WZ-132 is the bomb. DEEP STATE PLOT fucked around with this message at 05:51 on May 24, 2016 |
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DiverTwig posted:What are their selling points? As I've said before, my only real heavy experience so far has been the IS7 line. I was going down the British heavy line, but got super burnt out trying to grind through the Churchill VII and just gave up. The IS-2 is pretty much an IS with a HEAT shell instead of APCR, so more pen, but a larger chance of it fizzing out against spaced armor. It has a slightly better front slope, but not enough to matter. The 110 is pretty much a heavy tank with a tier 9 medium gun, it doesn't hit as hard, but you get a better ROF. Its armor is a little better then the IS-3, at depending on which version of the IS-3, the current PC one is better. The WZ-111 1-4 is a tier 9 IS-7, same gun, similar agility, but less armor and HP. The tier 10 is probably still terrible. The medium line is uninspired, the Type T-34 is the T-34 from the Russian line, The Type 58 is a T-34-85 that loses the top gun from the T-34-85, but gets a better ROF. Its pretty good. The T-34-1 is a tiny little medium that gets a 100mm gun and the nice turret armor from Russian tanks, but really struggles with bad gun depression. The T-34-2 is that tank but with the option of sticking a 122mm gun on it, but it has a glacial reload. The WZ-120 is a T-54 with a 122mm gun option. Actually works surprising well. The light line is where its at though. The 59-16 its tiny and fast, and has the option of using a high pen low alpha 57mm gun, or going with a 76mm rapid fire autoloader. The one downside to the autoloader is its criminally bad penetration, a lot of heavy tanks are immune to it unless you are directly behind them and have a flat spot to hit. The WZ-131 is pretty amazing though, if you stick with the top 85mm gun option on it, you can out DPM a ton of things, its got good camo, good accuracy and is fun to drive. The WZ-132 is a slightly better WZ-131, but now the 100mm gun is a option.
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What are the view distances like on the light tanks? They sound like they'd be good at pestering the rear flank, but what about basic scouting? Also, how's their armor? I'm guessing since they're lights, there isn't much to speak of really. Also, I have yet to ever fire a single premium round of any kind. I know it's pretty sad, but I've been saving silver for new tanks, and using gold for premium time / xp conversion.
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View distance on lights is pretty good and they also get a bonus where they don't lose their camo rating when on the move, so they are great at spotting things and staying hidden. They don't have any armor really, though you can still bounce shots off your turret if someone shoots that (I bounced an E100 shot off the turret of my 132 last night).CitizenKain posted:The 110 is pretty much a heavy tank with a tier 9 medium gun, it doesn't hit as hard, but you get a better ROF. Its armor is a little better then the IS-3, at depending on which version of the IS-3, the current PC one is better. At least on console, the 110 has way, way better frontal armor. About 50-60mm better effectively due to the higher slope on the pike nose. I bounce shots off the front of the 110 so reliably that I don't really fear holding a position solo against multiple enemies because as long as I can keep them all directly in front of me, they rarely ever pen me (and often switch to HE out of frustration, which always makes me laugh). Also the gun on the 110 is just better than the BL9. Better pen, better DPM, better accuracy. I usually prefer alpha to DPM (so much so that I use the 100mm on my 132), but the increase in DPM combined with how good the 110 is at holding a position and bouncing shots has meant I just rack up tons of damage every game. And it's accurate ebough to reliably use as a sniper, giving the 110 more utility in a tier 10 match than the IS-3. I love the IS-3. but the 110 is better by quite a bit. Again, at least on console.
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Looks like quite a bit of changes coming soon to go along with all the new toys. https://console.worldoftanks.com/en/news/announcements/update_3-0-overview/ Looks like as soon as it's released the WZ 131 and 132 are getting buffed a bit. More health, lower aim time, lower reload time. Looks kinda nifty. There's a bit of a nerf for the FV304, which is what made me enjoy playing artillery. Little bit slower, doesn't turn as fast, and doesn't aim or shoot as quickly either. Looks like the KV-220 is getting more armor. Because it needs it? (it really doesn't, but I'll take it because I love playing this thing) I could be reading it wrong. The update says "displayed armor values" but I can't imagine they'd have it say it has different armor than it does. Overall the changes look ... meh, I dunno. There's a lot of changes to vehicles I don't use so I don't care yet. Everything else seems kinda cool, but just minor tweaks and fixes.
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A lot of the less squishy TDs are going to break camo when firing now, so there's that.
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Buffing the WZ-132 when I already love it makes me pretty drat happy!
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So in June, there'll be an operation to get a free tier 8 Soviet premium. It'll just be a certain amount of XP in Soviet tanks but no word of how much. A free tier 8 premium is nothing to scoff at, so I'm going for it. More importantly., they'll be selling the Soviet IS-2 premium. I'm grabbing that poo poo because having the IS and Chinese IS-2 isn't enough for me. I fuckin' love that tank and having essentially three of them in my garage? gently caress yeah.
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Yeah I'll be after the T8 Premium as well. I've got the IS-6 at T8 and the SU-122-44 at T7 (as well as the T-34-88 and the KV-220 at 6 and 5 respectively) and I mainly use them for when I need to grind out silver, so having another T8 in the mix will be pretty awesome. Is the Soviet IS-2 T7 like the IS? I haven't checked to see what the Chinese IS-2 is.
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The Chinese IS-2 is an IS with noticeably better frontal armor. The Soviet IS-2 is about on par with the Chinese version and therefore a bit better than the regular ol' IS. I think it is a little slower but its frontal armor is even better.
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Details for the T8 Premium OP. May 31st to June 20th. Get a total of 150,000 xp in Soviet vehicles T3 - T10 If you buy it (for 12,800) and then earn 130,000 xp, you get 1,000 gold. https://console.worldoftanks.com/en/news/game-events/the-motherland-calls/ And some other stuff going on, with the first (I believe) console exclusive map https://console.worldoftanks.com/en/news/pc-browser/game-events/the-motherland-calls-aux/
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150,000 XP? Rofl that's easy as poo poo, I expected it to be half a million or so for a free tier 8. Awesome. Also that op is open to anyone who owns the tank, whether they bought it or earned it.
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Ah, you're right. I missed the part where it said if you'd earned it. So yeah, for just under 300,000 over the course of three weeks, you get a T8 Premium soviet medium, 1,000 gold, and a bunch of other gadgets and boosts and poo poo. I dunno if I'll be able to do all of that, but I'll at least get the tank. I only get time to play on the weekends mostly. It's gonna be a fun time with nothing but Soviet tanks all over the place forever during those weeks.
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Well I dunno if it's beginners luck or what but the 113 has actually been pretty good to me so far. I'm actually having better games in it than I do in the IS-7. This thing is way better than its reputation suggests. e: then I had a string of absolutely loving horrendous matches in it. Welp 
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Well now that I've had it for a while and driven it lots, the 113 is alright. I don't think it deserves the reputation it has for being terrible; in fact, I've had a lot more success, a lot more consistently in my 113 than I ever had in my IS-7. It certainly has some really significant flaws and it absolutely cannot be played like a regular heavy tank as it has neither the armor nor the pen for that, but it is a good support tank. Taking it to often poorly-defended flanks and busting through them to surround enemies who are occupied with other friendly tanks is what this thing is good at.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOOO3WLCZgc Also Chinese tanks are now on PS4. Get yourselves that 110, it's a magical, amazing thing, it is.
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I've got about 28k more xp to need to get my Motherland. There are a ton of those things already. It's pretty ridiculous. I was playing last night and there were matches with 13 motherlands between the two teams. And, as expected, aaaallllll the russian tanks. Everywhere, as far as the eye can see. I had a match last weekend that gave me over 10k xp for a single match. That was fun. I might upload the replay of it. It wasn't an exceptionally well played match or anything. It was in my KV-220 which makes good matches fairly easy. It was also on the 3xp day, and I had an some ops active. I know the ops don't count towards the motherland, but it was just crazy to me to get over 10k in a single match. I did notice the chinese tanks and I'll start working on them after all the motherland ops are done. I did notice that at Tier 10, the medium tank and the heavy tank are (at least according to the little stat bars on the side) almost identical except the heavy has more health and more armor. It looks like they go the same speed, do the same damage, have the same sight and radio distances. Is that about right? What would be the reason for getting the medium instead of the heavy in that scenario?
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The medium is more maneuverable and a smaller target. Otherwise they are more or less identical, right down to looks. I had a 121 pushing my 113 a few days ago and was kind of shocked at how much the 121 just a slightly downscaled 113. They even play the same, with the 113 really favoring a medium tank playstyle. In fact, driving the 113 a whole bunch has made me a ton better in my medium tanks.
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https://console.worldoftanks.com/en/news/announcements/update_3-1-overview/ French tanks coming for both Xbox and Playstation. (I dunno what French tanks were available for Xbox before, just quoting the page) Couple new map variants. Lots of other tweaks and changes. No buffs / nerfs this time. I've heard lots of people talk about the French tanks. mostly the AMX 30, Bat Chat, and I've seen videos of people in a Lorainne. They don't look spectacularly interesting to me so I might just put them on my maybe-to-get-eventually-if-I'm-bored list.
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DiverTwig posted:https://console.worldoftanks.com/en/news/announcements/update_3-1-overview/ I quite like my French tanks I have so far, though I'm not sure what to bother with at the lower end of the new crop as all the new tanks are in little side branches in tiers I've already gone past rather than being a new full line going from tiers II to X. The thing the French have as their gimmick is mainly the fact they stick autoloaders on every branch of their tech tree, even the top SPG gets a 4 shot gun. In this update, as mentioned in the announcement post, the kind of gimmick is the low tier additions already have variations in the game as German premiums.
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  Just another friendly reminder that the Chinese lights are awesome and you should be driving them if you aren't already. DiverTwig posted:https://console.worldoftanks.com/en/news/announcements/update_3-1-overview/ The Blizzard and Sandstorm map variants are fuckin rad, played on both and it's awesome. The storms cut visibility by 75% so the matches are just hilarious and awesome and oh man this is the best new thing they've introduced in the game in a long-rear end time. Every map needs these kind of variants.
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 You'll be able to earn the AMX CDC for freeA total of 270,000 XP, almost twice that of the Motherland but still not a whole lot. Another 230,000 XP and you get 1,000 gold. From what I've read the CDC kicks rear end but is also a tank for experts only. So basically it's like every other French tank in that regard. Either way, free tier 8 premium again! I hope they keep doing stuff like this. Let us earn the WZ-111 in the future or something.
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Did the latest update break platoons for anyone else? Last night me and my bro weren't able to join one at all. Which sucks, I like playing in platoons.
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New tank that can be earned with the first op starting today. It's a slower Tiger with a paint job and that's pretty much it, so hooray I guess? Whatever, free tier 7 heavy  More importantly, the Type 59 is up for sale. First time for PS4, and I highly recommend it to you guys...except there's a caveat: it is only for sale in a bundle with the M6A2E1 for 19k gold. The Mutant seems like a piece of junk from what I've fought against them, so it's kind of a bum deal that you are forced to buy it if you want a Type 59, especially for PS4 players who've never had a chance to buy the 59 before.
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Cubey posted:New tank that can be earned with the first op starting today. It's a slower Tiger with a paint job and that's pretty much it, so hooray I guess? Whatever, free tier 7 heavy The Chinese Type 59? It was on sale once before for PS4...
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Was it? Huh, it only went on sale once on Xbox and that happened before the PS4 version dropped. Guess I assumed it had not been on PS4 since sales always happen concurrently.
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Not that it matters, but it was on sale in February, and the PS4 version came out at the end of Jan. Presumably, now that they've a few months under their belt, WG hopes to land a few envious whales with that 19K bundle.
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I've got to admit I am really tempted to get the mega bundle, but I'm more interested in the KJP than the Hammer.
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I haven't played in over a month now. Last time I did was to log in long enough to buy the bundle with the freedom, knight, and... whatever the other thing was. Played a few matches with those and then haven't played since. Not because I stopped liking the game, just got other things to play. But I've seen so much about the Hype 59 that I'm tempted to log in long enough to get this bundle too. But then I remember the time I one-shot a 59 about a minute into a match, ammo racked him, killed him. It was fantastic, and would almost certainly never happen again, but it still makes me stop and think about if I wanna buy that. I kinda do though.
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The easy way to know if you'd like a Type 59 is to ask yourself if you liked the Motherland, provided you got one. The Type 59 is a somewhat better Motherland that only sees up to tier 9. It is a somewhat nerfed version compared to the PC version, which was OP as all gently caress, but even nerfed I'd say the Type 59 is a very strong contender for best tier 8 premium.
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The type 59 is the exact same on pc and console. But it still is one of the best money makers you can get.
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Having now driven the Churchill III quite a bit, I will say with certainty that it is, without exception, the best premium in the game, the best tank at tier 5, and tier-for-tier maybe the best tank in the entire game. Saying that about a friggin' Churchill is surprising because the tech tree ones seem extremely bad, but this thing is absolutely monstrous. I bought the thing for a laugh expecting it to suck as hard as the tech tree ones, but instead I absolutely demolish everything in my path. Even tier 6 tanks aren't safe from this thing, just ask the Sherman Jumbo and VK36 I solo killed in my last match with it. If you are looking for a premium tank at all, this is the one to get, no question. I also grabbed the Matilda IV for the hell of it and it's also really really good and doesn't get the love it probably deserves, but the Churchill III is on a totally different level to it.
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Still chugging along in this game, but I've mostly stopped grinding tanks and just play what I enjoy now. I've slowly grown fond of the 112 as I've become something resembling a good player, it's a super underrated tank and when I drive it properly nobody seems to know how to handle it. The 113 continues to be fun as hell and I am now convinced that people who argue that the IS7 is better are loving lunatics.
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