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That is a signup btw, thanks for letting me know EXAKT.
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Dec 13, 2015 05:57
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We will save christmas for sure this time
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Dec 14, 2015 08:50
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Confirming I've read maybe a few posts but this already looks to be a far better game than the last one~
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Dec 15, 2015 00:46
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TMMadman posted:Says the person pushing for a turbo on someone who hasn't even confirmed. This is a really weird and defensive, unnecessary post. Would vote TMM for this I think.
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Dec 15, 2015 00:48
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Alright I have some time, gonna blow this poo poo wide open
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Dec 16, 2015 02:41
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TMMadman posted:The old 'claim to get a fake PM to cover for the fact that I got a real scum PM' ploy. Was this a serious statement, because it looks like it COULD be part of jokephase but it also reads as very serious three seconds into the day which is very odd
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Dec 16, 2015 02:43
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EXAKT Science posted:I like that you're willing to call it scummy, but not vote even tho we're still firmly in jokephase. Almost half the game hasn't confirmed. This also seems overly sensitive and trigger happy.
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Dec 16, 2015 02:43
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TMMadman posted:Well since there are two scum and it only takes 4 to lynch I feel voting early is dangerous and kind of scummy. Why were we all being so serious after two confirmation posts 
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Dec 16, 2015 02:43
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TMMadman posted:Well since there are two scum and it only takes 4 to lynch I feel voting early is dangerous and kind of scummy. TMMadman posted:According to you claiming VT is useless. TMM fully aware of the fact that voting willy nilly could be bad for D1 but seems to be voting Kashuno based on...a meta joke? Am I reading this right?
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Dec 16, 2015 02:44
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TMMadman posted:Says the person pushing for a turbo on someone who hasn't even confirmed. And again this is a lot of vote throwing around when TMM's initial serious response to EXAKT was "well I don't want to throw my vote around"
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Dec 16, 2015 02:45
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TMMadman posted:How is it weird and defensive? There is someone saying that we shouldn't waste a day while simultaneously saying that we should turbo Hal. This is also the height of irony considering TMM at this point has voted for 2 different people at the drop of a hat~
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Dec 16, 2015 02:46
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Hold on I need to go back because I clearly have a scum hardon for TMM based on me feeling something was off about his initial post and now I'm glazing over the other content 
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Dec 16, 2015 02:47
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So I do think that the EXAKT pushing Hal turbo could be a little scummy if not for the fact that I like a lot of EXAKT's jokephase posting and I really feel like he's not coming from a malicious place. He has enough town sense about him in the moments when he's actually called out:EXAKT Science posted:If the scum try to push an early lunch it'll be obvious. Like I said, three players haven't even posted. :chill: This is his first solid response to TMM, but this is what really seals the deal for me: EXAKT Science posted:You have this dumb slapfight every game. It dominates day 1 discussion and never accomplishes anything. We don't have the day to waste. Tomorrow is LYLO unless we hit. I don't see scum coming in and shutting this down. I feel like scum EXAKT who understands how quick this game could go would silently let this ride out and capitalize on this fact rather than being the voice of reason. Gives me good town feels.
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Dec 16, 2015 02:50
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Kashuno posted:Because it's not a weird thing for TMM to say? Kashuno are you being intentionally obtuse in this exchange with EXAKT because I don't see how you can actually have the opinion that my thinking it odd TMM is being super serious out the gate is bad, and I've known you to be intentionally obtuse in games when we've been scum together.
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Dec 16, 2015 02:52
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Kashuno posted:Madman is casing you because you are saying "don't waste time with your stupid bullshit" when you were doing jokephase stuff. This is an odd thing to say considering TMM was, in fact, also throwing his vote around as much as EXAKT, and with seemingly actual casing intent behind it. Can you explain your thought process, Kash, cause I'm not getting this defense.
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Dec 16, 2015 02:52
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Hal Incandenza posted:Quid was trying hard to be a bit serious kind of early there too, he certainly seems a lot worse than TMM as far as early "serious" cases go I disagree, I made a single post saying I was getting bad vibes from TMM and would vote for him based on those early feelings, whereas TMM was dropping votes with his actual cases. Do you still think I'm the one acting scummy here?
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Dec 16, 2015 02:53
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Kash's vote on me isn't great and TMM considering it publicly without comment is also pretty lousy. I have some feelings but I want to see some responses from people to see how they gel.
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Dec 16, 2015 02:55
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Kashuno posted:You brought up solid points Quid, I don't have strong rebuttals and it helped me look back at things. Hurm.
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Dec 16, 2015 03:14
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If you are currently predicating your cases on "this person hasn't posted therefore they are scum," Hal, I will vote so hard for you, because that is the laziest poo poo in the world. I didn't realize bowmore was in this game but that doesn't make him scum, and you're now two for two in me being your top suspect previously.
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Dec 16, 2015 03:53
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EXAKT, aside from exonerating me as town, do you have any opinions on TMM being vote-happy, Hal being "absent=scum" happy, and Kashuno pushing odd opinions? You're the only person I'm fairly sure is town right now.
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Dec 16, 2015 04:42
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The ONLY thing giving me pause right now is my  "would TMM, as scum, be that self conscious and weird out of the bat."I know meta cases are crap but has anyone actually seen TMM as scum because I don't think I ever have. Is this par for the course?
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Dec 16, 2015 18:12
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I am less bothered by Kashuno asking for time to review as I am with the fact that it was entirely unnecessary for him to post. Why not just look at the thread, go "I'll deal with that later" and then go to the gym? That's self-consciousness about a need to generate content and that isn't town. Then he comes back with this: Kashuno posted:I don't disagree with that! It's hard for a game with so little time for a player without meta reads to be super contributive with how little content there is. If I felt strong enough, I'd have a vote on you And this is the most mafia-coach buddy buddy poo poo, yo. ##vote Kashuno this is not town play and glaringly scum.
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Dec 17, 2015 05:11
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That post jumped out at me so bad I couldn't remember if he had actually posted reads:Kashuno posted:Cool. So right now I've got scum vibes hard from SA and TMM, a very weak ping from Hal. EXAKT and Quid feel town to me. Bowmore posts nothing yet again so that's a null. TMM is an easy target, Hal is currently on a lot of people's lists. This is lazy. I am most curious about including SA. Why is he a strong scum vibe over Hal? Why is he someone who has posted more content than bowmore? You set up this grand parlor reveal you had to delay for the gym and this is what we get? There is nothing to back this up. Come on, Kashuno, play scum better 
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Dec 17, 2015 05:14
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I'm happy with my Kash vote.
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Dec 18, 2015 00:22
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Sorry guys, I was seeing Star Wars and that was kind of an all afternoon and evening event. I just got off of work and I have to get a few checks in but I'll do a reread after I'm done with that.
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Dec 19, 2015 00:12
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I was going to finish casing Kashuno because I really think that people looking at him before the end of the day and going "those are solid responses" are full of poo poo but that feels like a waste of time. Kashuno used a whole lot of self-meta that didn't matter, made soft bizarre connections with unflipped players regarding their intent, and was overall just flabbergasted that people DEIGNED to be suspicious of him coming in and saying things like "You list SA as a person you would vote because you would feel him to be scum when he has no content." I realize this is a moot point right now because he's dead and town, but I'm going to reiterate he was ACTING scummy, I am surprised he DIDN'T flip scum, and that means people dismissing him as town are borderline "no reason and know too much" for me right now.
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Dec 19, 2015 00:30
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EXAKT Science posted:You're framing your perspective as fact. This isn't analysis, it's building a narrative. This is what I was getting at.
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Dec 19, 2015 00:31
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TMMadman posted:I think I'd rather lynch bowmore over Kash right now. Bowmore has a total of 7 posts and only 2 of them are game related. One where he votes for Hal and then another where he gives a weak defense of his vote and says he's not moving it. I'm not sure what to make of this, because I keep thinking "TMM DEFENDING HIS SCUM BUDDY" except I keep forgetting Kash wasn't scum I really don't like TMM coming out and going for what we now know would be an easy miscuddle with bowmore's flip. It's weird considering how from my perspective Kashuno was talking out of his butt really hard. If TMM knew bowmore was town, he might be going for the easy D1 into D2 win here, especially if he could get heat off of Kashuno, who he also would know was town.
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Dec 19, 2015 00:33
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EXAKT Science posted:Also, what changed? You were right there on the Kash train until he started to pick up votes. Once again EXAKT says what I am thinking as I am rereading lolololol
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Dec 19, 2015 00:33
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TMMadman posted:It doesn't really matter if D1 lurking is alignment neutral because if we don't hang scum today then we are in LYLO and that's a bad place took be with a lurker. Boom, TMM setting up a Kash miscuddle if he gets the bowmore vote off. I think this is scum TMM working to get the game in the bag.
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Dec 19, 2015 00:34
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Hal Incandenza posted:I like what Kashuno has said. He didn't waste a lot of time defending himself and I like the points he's made. His reaction doesn't look scummy at all, other maybe that he is going after the people who voted him. Hal, how was this possibly your opinion with what Kash was doing? Please explain, because I really don't like this.
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Dec 19, 2015 00:34
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TMMadman posted:I don't get the argument that it's bad to go after the people who voted for you. It gets leveled against me a lot, but I feel that since I know my own alignment I am the best judge of who I think is attacking me in bad faith. I just don't see going after the people going after you as inherently scummy. Hal Incandenza posted:Yeah I don't think it's that bad either and I do the same thing. It's just also a somewhat easy tack to take because it requires less effort than analyzing something from a neutral point of view. These two votes back to back are an odd combination of distracting metachat with weird setup/respond discussion that I could see being faked content in the thread by a scum team.
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Dec 19, 2015 00:35
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TMMadman posted:Yeah, I don't see why we shouldn't hang bowmore when his contribution is to come back and in simply restate the position he's been holding the entire game. Same thing, pushing the easy miscuddle with absolutely no reason other than "look how terrible he is being." This is a really poor push.
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Dec 19, 2015 00:36
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bowmore posted:i'll hold my position until one of us is lynched TMMadman posted:See, I just don't read Hal that way and feel that you're just forcing the issue and hiding behind a 'him or me' attitude. Hal/TMM scumteam.
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Dec 19, 2015 00:37
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TMMadman posted:So who is going to be around? We've got about an hour and forty five minutes to go. Again, TMM's top cuddle candidates are two flipped townies and someone who has contributions have been competely townie while he won't even consider bowmore's points on Hal. I think this is lazy scum play trying to get a fast win out by putting his eggs on all the town members and just spraying and praying.
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Dec 19, 2015 00:39
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TMMadman posted:I think at this point, I'd rather do bowmore or SA in that order. I don't buy the whole 'him or me' thing from bowmore and it feels forced and SA has just completely disappeared in a small game. Neither of them has posted any sort of real content, but bowmore is pushing an argument that doesn't read true to me. And then SA out of nowhere, what? This is a mega bizarre post. Suddenly SA is on his radar as a viable candidate when he had no opinions on him before (like, literally thought EXAKT was talking about Hal being a lurker instead of SA who he had clearly mentioned before, maybe a slip?), setting up potential chaincuddles with people we now know to be town...I'm a broken record at this point.
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Dec 19, 2015 00:41
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Hal Incandenza posted:I will put my vote where it needs to be to get things done, it kind of sucks that the two biggest targets aren't really responding to anything. This attitude feels like one that's trying to look town and helpful rather than actually BEING town and helpful.
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Dec 19, 2015 00:42
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TMMadman posted:It just feels like a set up to a mislynch, but I think we really need to hang someone. IRONY.
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TMMadman posted:Killing bowmore implicates Hal because bowmore was only voting for Hal. So I think scum may have killed bowmore to set up Hal And again, totally pushing this white knite narrative with Hal. TMM and Hal are the scumteam, I will vote for either today.
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