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Sagebrush posted:I'm coming around on Trump over Hilary after reading some of his political positions, finding them to be surprisingly reasonable (e.g. eject illegal immigrants but open up a lot of easy legal immigration paths). And because I really, really don't like the idea of political dynasties. Bush Clinton Clinton Bush Bush [obama obama] Clinton Clinton? gently caress off.
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Still zero idea. Polls suggest Hillary but I have zero certainty in anything this election cycle.
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The real question here is, who isn't going to be president?
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No one, inshallah
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The Saurus posted:Can Hillary bravely follow Obama's sterling effort and lead us through another 8 years of maintaining the status quo? I guess we'll find out! Aww, look who hates healthcare and being employed. I'm sure it's hard for you to get up everyday, knowing you live in such a third world hellscape.
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Princess Di posted:Aww, look who hates healthcare and being employed. Hey guys, did you know that President Obama achieved full employment and made sure that every single person in the United States had access to affordable healthcare??? Oh wait, that's utter bollocks. 
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The Saurus posted:Hey guys, did you know that President Obama achieved full employment and made sure that every single person in the United States had access to affordable healthcare??? obama also outlawed strawmen forever
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Oct 22, 2016 06:23
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i wish i had the kind of privilege to be able to think "wow, nothing has gotten better for me since 2008"
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Series DD Funding posted:i wish i had the kind of privilege to be able to think "wow, nothing has gotten better for me since 2008" That can happen because of underprivilege, like if you were too poor to afford insurance in 2008 and Obamacare just made it so you were fined for that fact.
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Series DD Funding posted:i wish i had the kind of privilege to be able to think "wow, nothing has gotten better for me since 2008" considering the fact that since 2008 the rich have had things get far far better for them than anyone else, this is a great way to accuse the underprivileged of being privileged through a liberal erasure of class and wealth inequality
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like if someone isn't doing well in the status quo and thought obama would change more like he promised and currently hates the establishment (amazingly, this describes a lot of people at the moment! especially young people who have suffered the most under the neoliberal status quo!) i'm not sure your first go-to response should be a smug accusal of privilege whatever that means considering how much obama promised, there really wasn't much change from the GWB era. the ACA was a payout for insurance corps and he managed to destroy another 2 muslim nations in his own way. also, if anything has improved for you in the last 8 years, however slight it may be, you are forbidden from criticizing the fact that it has improved far more for those who already have tons of wealth and privilege, or that huge problems still exist? ncie stramwan
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The Saurus posted:considering the fact that since 2008 the rich have had things get far far better for them than anyone else in an extremely misleading way, perhaps. top incomes collapsed during the crash and went back to normal after the economy recovered The Saurus posted:the ACA was a payout for insurance corps such a payout that after the aca individual market opened up insurers lost hundreds of millions of dollars paying claims from the millions of newly insured people quote:
millions killed by obamas inventions, gaddafi and assad. rip
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Series DD Funding posted:in an extremely misleading way, perhaps. top incomes collapsed during the crash and went back to normal after the economy recovered Just lol
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Won't someone think of the losses in capital gains. 
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Series DD Funding posted:in an extremely misleading way, perhaps. top incomes collapsed during the crash and went back to normal after the economy recovered  quote:millions killed by obamas inventions, gaddafi and assad. rip Maybe arming ISIS surrogates in those countries because it was thought they'd be anti-russian wasn't the best idea. This is literally what happened with the Taliban in Afghanistan too, it's not hard to learn. Libya was Clinton pushing behind Obama, though, wasn't it?
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the saurus get the gently caress out of the thread about how right i always am you delusional stain on the human species
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i am the op of this thread wherein I said "probably Shillary" theretofore, i should be hailed as the correctest of the correct when novembre rolls around
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cams posted:the saurus get the gently caress out of the thread about how right i always am you delusional stain on the human species He's got a point that funding/arming rebels to gently caress with Moscow is stupid. We've been doing it for half a century and it constantly blows up in our faces, particularly in the Middle East.
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Jewel Repetition posted:He's got a point that funding/arming rebels to gently caress with Moscow is stupid. We've been doing it for half a century and it constantly blows up in our faces, particularly in the Middle East. The Saurus posted:i am the op of this thread wherein I said "probably Shillary" the saurus you are a loving moron
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cams posted:lol Do you... disagree?
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Jewel Repetition posted:Do you... disagree? the way you people discuss foreign policy is so shallow and worthless, the fact that some of you base your worldviews on your perception of global events is hilarious. the saurus is a loving moron who should not be engaged with because he cannot form a coherent rational argument. maybe he can and he's just PRETENDING to be a giant idiot, either way i am not going to discuss something as complex as global politics on an internet forum with that person. gently caress off the saurus you are an idiot
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cams posted:with what? that arming rebels in the past was shown to have negative consequences? no i do not disagree. Drive-bys and namecalling isn't going to elevate the discourse though. The solution is to be an example of the kind of discussion you want to see, or just ignore The Saurus.
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Jewel Repetition posted:Drive-bys and namecalling isn't going to elevate the discourse though. The solution is to be an example of the kind of discussion you want to see, or just ignore The Saurus.
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cams posted:lol the saurus is a loving moron Yeah, but chill.
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