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Devo
Jul 9, 2001

:siren:Caught Cubs Posting:siren:


The face of a man who has seen some poo poo

NEW OWNERS GUIDE

WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT LAST SEASON

-Some bullshit happened. Some bullshit team won the world series. My bullshit team made the playoffs somehow.

DIVISION WINNERS

AL North: Seattle Discontent
AL East: Pittsburgh Steel Birds
AL South: Charlotte Goyim
AL West: Los Angeles LA Directors

NL North: Philadelphia Phatties
NL East: Cleveland Hustlers
NL South: Florida Oranges
NL West: Santa Cruz Conquistadors

WILD CARDS

AL: Santa Fe Leo Egans, Chicago Barons
NL: Boston Sophists, Colorado Burrelballers

AWARDS

AL MVP: Aaron Hanson, Leo Egans
NL MVP: James Page, Sophists
AL Cy Young: Bud McDonald, Goyim
NL Cy Young: Deivi Elcano, Los Angeleses
AL ROTY: Jerry Stubbs, LA Directors
NL ROTY: Napoleon Bolden, BEEMOs

INFO FOR NEW OWNERS AND HOPELESSLY INCOMPETENT VETERANS

1. Consider running trade offers by the veteran owners in thread. We'll tell you if you're getting ripped off too badly.

2. Figure out a plan and stick to it. If you decide your team needs a rebuilding period, don't abort it halfway through and try to win. That's how you get a consistently mediocre team that doesn't go anywhere.

3. Overall rating is pretty much meaningless, other than to inflate a guy's asking price or determine draft comp.

4. During the preseason, you need to pay more attention to your team than at any other time. After the season starts, you can get away with checking your team once a day or so. During the preseason, you need to be much more active. Don't commit to a team if you can't do that. The main cycles run at (roughly) 3:45am, 11:45am and 7:45pm Eastern, with half cycles in between each. I'd advise that you check every half-cycle, as this is when you get feedback on coach hiring, free agent offers, re-signings, etc.

5. Go through your team roster when you get your team. Figure out what assets you have. Figure out what players you need to protect from the Rule V draft. Failing to do so can seriously set your team back. I'm bolding this part because nasboat is AN IDIOT WHO LOST THREE GOOD PROSPECTS AT ONE POINT BECAUSE I FORGOT TO DO THIS EXACT THING, SO IT CAN HAPPEN TO YOU, TOO! SERIOUSLY!

6. Don't be afraid to ask questions! HBD can be overwhelming at first. There's a lot to figure out, and we've all been through it. Use your goon resources.

7. Don't listen to Art's advice. EVER.

8. Coach Hiring Sucks. But it's not that bad honestly if the world works together. We can do this. Trust me.

9. Most of all, have fun with it. Don't get too worked up about fake baseball. Unless you're menasboat.

10. Get a Big Brother! If you've never played this game before feel free to ask the thread for help from the veterans. Hopefully one of us will take you under our wing and teach you some of the stupid convoluted poo poo that you need to know before you quit in frustration. Then when you're a 10 season veteran with multiple world series wins you can pay it forward!


AWESOME THING YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT IF YOU DON'T ALREADY

-ADVANCED ROSTER EDIT. This is essential. If you've got (I think) 3 seasons of HBD under your belt, you can take the stupid, WIS-mandated 'training wheels' off your "Edit Roster" page. That's right, no longer will you have to make promotions one player at a time -- which was always a terrible process when trying to bump up all your minor leaguers. To get to advanced roster mode, simply access the "Management Console" from the "Manager's Office" menu, then scroll down and select "Advanced Mode" under "GM Edit Rosters Options"

SPRING TRAINING INFO YOU WILL NEED

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Set your spring training rest hierarchy and pitch counts.

PAs in spring training count towards fatigue in the regular season but the games don't, so you don't want to use your starters as much as you would in the regular season.

HOWEVER spring training is also a good opportunity for your young players to get a couple extra points and if you don't let your veterans play, they might lose a few points. So it's a careful balancing act. I'd recommend inviting some guys to ST from your minor leagues--either prospects you want to develop or mediocre AAAA dudes who can soak up some innings/PAs. Your 25 man roster won't cut it.

Go to Managers Office -> Player Settings -> Spring training squads to invite some of your minor leaguers to camp. Go to Manager's office -> Managers Settings to set your lineup to rest after the fifth inning even if they're losing or leading by only 1. Go to Managers Office -> Player Settings -> Edit Player settings to set your starters to low pitch counts. If for some reason you want them to go deep in games, you can manually force your team to use a 10 man rotation or something. Rotate out your relievers, setting the guys who just pitched to "rest" and forcing the AI to use other guys after games.

The goal is to get your starters at least 10 innings, your relievers at least 3 appearances and your batters at least 30 PAs. After that you're safe from regression. The rest of the playing time should go to backups, bench guys, and minor leaguers.


~Everything below here is being updated~

CURRENT GOON TEAMS -- NOW WITH TWITTER HANDLES!
Yeah this isn't even close to correct I'll fix it later
Yeah I never fixed it last season but I will I'm sure later
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Forums name      / WIS name     / Franchise                      / Twitter

nasboat          / nasboat      / Seattle Discontent             / @nasboat
Art Vandelay     / thaneoffife  / Montreal Royal Kilted Yaksmen  / @ThaneOfFife
gardenald        / gardenald    / Chicago Barons                 / @gardenald

Devo             / devomac      / Pittsburgh Steel Birds         / @Devo1999
Evilbeard        / evilbeard    / Hartford Focus                 / @evilbeard
duyarvish        / kingfatdik   / Dover Dumpsters                / @duyarvish
n/a              / CBoulding    / Boston Sophists                / @CBoulding

jeffersonlives   / tjefferson   / Santa Fe Leo Egans             / @ihateprospects
Scrotos          / Fervus       / Charlotte Goyim                / @scrotos
Tavarin          / tavarin      / St. Louis Gaedels              / @tavarin

CaptMurphy       / captmurphy   / Portland Beavers               / @haassauce
n/a              / elchapo      / Tucson Seraperos               / @mrubio52
The broken bones / kingofspain  / Salt Lake City Punks           / @TheAmitie
Thauros          / thauros      / Vancouver Directors            / @SAThauros

Nerokerubina     / koyunlu      / Iowa City IOWA                 / @QaraKoyunlu
Operaterp        / operaterp    / Philadelphia Phatties          / 
ernestborg9      / ernestborg9  / Ottawa BEEMOs                  / @ernest_borg9
n/a              / spaldingball / Chicago Cubes                  / @spaldingethan

AlleyViper       / alleyviper   / Cleveland Hustlers             / @deanleyland
chutwig          / chutwig      / Buffalo Garden Paths           / @erhudy
tatankatonk      / tatankatonk  / New York Metropolitans         / @tatankatonk
n/a              / mattwithanh  / Jacksonville Juggernauts       / @mattwithanh

Atheistdeals.com / atheistdeals / New Orleans Spirits            / @DoubleScorpion
(I forget)       / BarroldBonds / Jackson Jackknives             / @BarroldBonds

ThatsMyBoye      / mrincubus    / Anaheim Los Angeleses          / @paul_boye
gyroball         / gyroball     / Colorado Burrellballers        / @RedbirdMenace
Power of Pecota  / pecotaredux  / Salem Saberhagens              / @GeorgeMatanzas
saintonan        / saintonan    / Santa Cruz Conquistadors       / @?
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Devo
Jul 9, 2001

:siren:Caught Cubs Posting:siren:
Yep and I forgot a thread tag. Score one for the good guys.

ThatsMyBoye
Nov 21, 2006

I wish that I believed in fate
I wish I didn't sleep so late
I used to be carried in the arms of cheerleaders
I take full responsibility for bad archiving. Slap my wrists

Devo
Jul 9, 2001

:siren:Caught Cubs Posting:siren:

ThatsMyBoye posted:

I take full responsibility for bad archiving. Slap my wrists

I meant to go back and fill those in last season and just totally forgot

Scrotos
Sep 8, 2003


:gonk:
Come on back to back champs. Also really devo no mention of my team finally getting a ring after like 15 good seasons?

Scrotos
Sep 8, 2003


:gonk:
Also, in case it comes up I have been mentoring vancouver/@thegreyking through twitter DMs. Just want to acknowledge it for any transactions that happen.

Can we get some other newbies mentors?

ThatsMyBoye
Nov 21, 2006

I wish that I believed in fate
I wish I didn't sleep so late
I used to be carried in the arms of cheerleaders
I've been helping mattywinks

stuart scott
Mar 9, 2007

for future fixing of goon teams chart:

stuart scott / rsommers/ Scranton Cutters / @phylan

gardenald
Jul 23, 2007

In the end, it comes down to throwing one pitch after another, and seeing what happens. With each new consequence, the game begins to take shape.
I am excited to once again make the playoffs and lose 3-1 in the first round

Just kidding this is probably the season it all falls apart and I win 75 games

E: Actually I think I might blow it up this season.

gardenald fucked around with this message at 07:30 on Dec 16, 2015

ArtVandelay
Jul 13, 2004

Just signed Yasiel to a 5 year 41mil contract. He would only take it if I included a mutual option, for some reason.

ThatsMyBoye
Nov 21, 2006

I wish that I believed in fate
I wish I didn't sleep so late
I used to be carried in the arms of cheerleaders
more like Coach ::gunshot::

saintonan
Dec 7, 2009

Fields of glory shine eternal

The more seasons I play, the less I care about coaches. As long as I don't hire someone disastrously bad, it just doesn't matter. I haven't been able to tell the difference between a 55 and 65 low/high A coach or the difference between an 82 and 92 ML coach.

AlleyViper
Sep 15, 2007

Oh, there's plenty of other balls in the sea. Plus, you're not very talented.
I really hope Del and Bo aren't re-signing.

ArtVandelay
Jul 13, 2004

Liking this lineup

nasboat
Sep 9, 2004

AlleyViper posted:

I really hope Del and Bo aren't re-signing.

well I had 70 patience Enny Alcantara decide to not negotiate with me despite me not taking him to arb 3 times (the other owner didn't have the space to work out a 5-year extension so I took the risk), so I'm sure those two will re-sign no problem and jeff will continue to be great for the forseeable future

me? i don't even loving know anymore. I guess I'll ride out this core that's good-but-not-good-enough.

oldfan
Jul 22, 2007

"Mathewson pitched against Cincinnati yesterday. Another way of putting it is that Cincinnati lost a game of baseball."

AlleyViper posted:

I really hope Del and Bo aren't re-signing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXR91UxhO7Y

AlleyViper
Sep 15, 2007

Oh, there's plenty of other balls in the sea. Plus, you're not very talented.
That's a really confusing deal then

Devo
Jul 9, 2001

:siren:Caught Cubs Posting:siren:

nasboat posted:

me? i don't even loving know anymore. I guess I'll ride out this core that's good-but-not-good-enough.

Oh woe is me my 110 win every season team has only won a single world series

nasboat
Sep 9, 2004

Devo posted:

Oh woe is me my 110 win every season team has only won a single world series

....yes?

I know that you've fallen short of that one but otherwise our stories are basically the same!

gyroball
Jul 29, 2003

Fortunately, the people found a mighty Rosenthal, called Trevor.

Putting a fair amount of faith in ~hidden ratings~ with Dernell Reagan but hey, love innings eaters

Scrotos
Sep 8, 2003


:gonk:
I kind of like that coaches and player are signing way earlier. But they REALLY needed to announce that somewhere in each world chat as a game change.

ArtVandelay
Jul 13, 2004

Last time I traded for an aging vet, it was in Clemens and I made it to the world series and lost to AV. I wouldn't mind if that happened again.

gardenald
Jul 23, 2007

In the end, it comes down to throwing one pitch after another, and seeing what happens. With each new consequence, the game begins to take shape.

AlleyViper posted:

That's a really confusing deal then

Tl;dr I don't give a poo poo really

I hit a brick wall this season due to bad budget planning and they aren't gonna be on the next good barons team

ArtVandelay
Jul 13, 2004

Lawrence Miller or Carlos Goya are available for anyone that wants pitching. I'm trying to shed a little bit of payroll. I don't even want much for them.

ArtVandelay
Jul 13, 2004

Looks like this is my pitching staff after 20 games.

ThatsMyBoye
Nov 21, 2006

I wish that I believed in fate
I wish I didn't sleep so late
I used to be carried in the arms of cheerleaders
Might be hard to imagine Sean Stein getting anything but maxed at this point

ThatsMyBoye
Nov 21, 2006

I wish that I believed in fate
I wish I didn't sleep so late
I used to be carried in the arms of cheerleaders
Ooh, so close

AlleyViper
Sep 15, 2007

Oh, there's plenty of other balls in the sea. Plus, you're not very talented.
Matt Cambridge's deal makes me happy for Al Reyes' deal.

Devo
Jul 9, 2001

:siren:Caught Cubs Posting:siren:

ThatsMyBoye posted:

Ooh, so close

I had the lead with a max contract for a cycle but I just couldn't figure out a way to field a passable team with $$30 going to Stein this season. I dropped it to a $100 mil blocking bid but never led at that number.

AlleyViper
Sep 15, 2007

Oh, there's plenty of other balls in the sea. Plus, you're not very talented.

Devo posted:

I had the lead with a max contract for a cycle but I just couldn't figure out a way to field a passable team with $$30 going to Stein this season.

Could you have just punted this season and settled on the fact you'd still have four more seasons with him, and then maybe Pittsburgh Luck your way into the playoffs this season?

Knowing I had the lead on him would make it tough for me to turn it down.

Devo
Jul 9, 2001

:siren:Caught Cubs Posting:siren:
I seriously considered it but I would have been left with about 6 million and 8 or 9 roster spots to fill. I didn't want to risk my minors or even worse my ML team to go into some hellish death spiral that I couldn't buy my way out of.

AlleyViper
Sep 15, 2007

Oh, there's plenty of other balls in the sea. Plus, you're not very talented.
I really thought I had a higher offer than that on Victor Wilfredo but, since this is WIS, I can't check what my final offer actually is. Because that would be useful or something.

saintonan
Dec 7, 2009

Fields of glory shine eternal

AlleyViper posted:

I really thought I had a higher offer than that on Victor Wilfredo but, since this is WIS, I can't check what my final offer actually is. Because that would be useful or something.

He signed on my first offer for him, and his asking price had been dropping periodically. Typically that doesn't happen if there's another offer in for him, but who knows.

AlleyViper
Sep 15, 2007

Oh, there's plenty of other balls in the sea. Plus, you're not very talented.
I put in my offer the same cycle you did, I just thought it was higher than what you did. Again, though, I have know way of knowing unless I manually log it myself or some poo poo.

ArtVandelay
Jul 13, 2004

I don't suppose anyone would bail me out on a few rule 5's. I blame the new phone site. I had them all pending and I thought the transactions had gone through.

nasboat
Sep 9, 2004

god drat, art

you never fail to have an excuse for being a failure

AlleyViper
Sep 15, 2007

Oh, there's plenty of other balls in the sea. Plus, you're not very talented.
Even if you had an excuse, none of the guys you exposed are good enough to be worth bailing you out of anything anyway


Besides, after nasboat took his Rule V mishap on the chin and didn't look to be bailed out, no veteran in this world has any excuse

EvilBeard
Apr 24, 2003

Big Q's House of Pancakes

Fun Shoe
I also took one on the chin.

ThatsMyBoye
Nov 21, 2006

I wish that I believed in fate
I wish I didn't sleep so late
I used to be carried in the arms of cheerleaders
Congrats on Rule 5ing Todd Breen for the 2nd time in 4 seasons just to immediately risk losing him again Art, you weird man

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Power of Pecota
Aug 4, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

lol I thought Wesley Beam was still in my system until I saw he was Rule V'd away from a different team

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