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Great news, he just posted he's got a copy edited manuscript on his desk right now! It's Wild Cards!
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"Wild Cards is another matter. Wild Cards is in my blood, and I plan to continue with those books as long as someone will keep buying them." There are people buying Wild Cards?
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Jan 2, 2016 03:33
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Super Ninja Fish posted:"Wild Cards is another matter. Wild Cards is in my blood, and I plan to continue with those books as long as someone will keep buying them." Someone. somewhere, intently studies those books looking for clues about ASoIAF like its The Bible Code.
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Jan 2, 2016 04:02
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I think GRRM just shot down some major fan theories by stating ASOIAF takes place in a different universe than all his other works.
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Jan 2, 2016 04:24
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Well it's more than three sentences: http://grrm.livejournal.com/465247.html
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Jan 2, 2016 08:35
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Of course, all he needed was three sentences: "I missed all my deadlines. The Winds of Winter will never be finished. I'm going to watch the Jets lose this weekend instead of rewriting that Theon chapter."
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Jan 2, 2016 08:41
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I figured whatever he was going to say was going to be fairly significant if it took like 3 days to say. I guess there are two ways to look at this: One is that none of this is at all surprising and that's pretty much what we thought he'd say: No book before season 6. On the other hand if you read between the lines a little he thought in May 2015 he could possibly finish in six months so he has to have a significant portion of the book written.
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Jan 2, 2016 08:47
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And there'll be more Theon. He's pretty cool.
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Jan 2, 2016 08:50
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TOOT BOOT posted:
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Jan 2, 2016 09:11
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First observation: he must be getting good at apologies. Well... he's a writer. Second observation: when he listed 'people who've never appeared on the show and never will', I did not recognise 2/3 names on that list. Heh. Third observation: so, hopefully, no more booktalk in this show thread, especially after this season.
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Jan 2, 2016 09:13
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Meanwhile, Back at the Wall...
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Jan 2, 2016 09:24
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How could he ever have thought that the show is not going to catch up with him, given that he still has ANOTHER book to write after WoW? Even if we take the average of ~4 years he needs to write a new book (which is favorable to him since every book after aSoS has taken longer) the show would inevitably catch up to him. It will be funny to see the hardcore bookreaders try to not get spoiled. Unless they resign themselves to a life in some cavern in Afghanistan that endeavour is sure to fail.
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Jan 2, 2016 09:40
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If he can't write it, someone else will summarize. Like it's not even a thing. The idea that he even considered a deadline is laughable. BTW Jojen was not on his list of dead on show alive in book.
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Jan 2, 2016 09:42
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Question for book readers: If bullet points of the final books' plots were released, summarizing who does what in enough detail to understand, would you be satisfied and walk away from the series forever?
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Jan 2, 2016 09:53
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I'm surprised he left out Lady Stoneheart from that list
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Jan 2, 2016 10:00
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computer parts posted:Question for book readers: If bullet points of the final books' plots were released, summarizing who does what in enough detail to understand, would you be satisfied and walk away from the series forever? What would even be the point then? Lol. Why not just imagine some finale at that point GaussianCopula posted:It will be funny to see the hardcore bookreaders try to not get spoiled. Unless they resign themselves to a life in some cavern in Afghanistan that endeavour is sure to fail. It's funny that people care about a good series of books and would rather read them as intended than the hackney, poo poo show version that has done nothing but disapoint since the first 2 seasons?
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Jan 2, 2016 10:05
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That's not fair, I was fairly disappointed by the second season too.
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Jan 2, 2016 10:07
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kater posted:That's not fair, I was fairly disappointed by the second season too. I can't really be disappointed since Alfie Allen was pretty much just showboating over the rest of the cast. Insane how good of an actor that guy is, it's a pity that the corrupt and arrogant showrunners keep cutting his scenes and giving the poor guy nothing to work with.
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Item Getter posted:I'm surprised he left out Lady Stoneheart from that list That and leaving out Jojen from the dead-in-the-show-alive-in-the-books list is interesting but I wouldn't read too much into it.
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Jan 2, 2016 10:43
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quote:Meanwhile Jhiqui, Aggo, Jhogo, Jeyne Poole, Dalla (and her child) and her sister Val, Princess Arianne Martell, Prince Quentyn Martell, Willas Tyrell, Ser Garlan the Gallant, Lord Wyman Manderly, the Shavepate, the Green Grace, Brown Ben Plumm, the Tattered Prince, Pretty Meris, Bloodbeard, Griff and Young Griff, Where the gently caress is Strong Belwas?
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Jan 2, 2016 11:14
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Yeah it sounded from his post that the showrunners know exactly what's going to happen now, and anything different from the books will be whatever they decide to change. *Sigh* I would just not watch season 6 but that'll hardly help. Oh well. It still sounded like it could come out in 2016... Right guys?
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Steve2911 posted:Yeah it sounded from his post that the showrunners know exactly what's going to happen now, and anything different from the books will be whatever they decide to change. My guess would be that Martin's new deadline is end of March, so that they can release the book a few days after the season ends.
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computer parts posted:Question for book readers: If bullet points of the final books' plots were released, summarizing who does what in enough detail to understand, would you be satisfied and walk away from the series forever?
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computer parts posted:Question for book readers: If bullet points of the final books' plots were released, summarizing who does what in enough detail to understand, would you be satisfied and walk away from the series forever? Yes. I tried to re-read Dance a few months ago and found myself really underwhelmed by his writing. He's a very good plotter, but there are so many other books out there I could spend time actually reading and enjoying. I know I've never really cared about spoilers from the show, personally. I think you'll find a lot of people from the book thread in BB will feel the same way at this point as well. I remember thinking way back when the show first started that he had a history of missing deadlines and the idea of him finishing the books before the show was over seemed fairly unlikely.
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computer parts posted:Question for book readers: If bullet points of the final books' plots were released, summarizing who does what in enough detail to understand, would you be satisfied and walk away from the series forever? I'd probably listen to the audiobook anyway, but I'd not read the book. But the thought that the amazing Roy Dotrice will die (he is 92 after all) before the last book comes out makes me sad.
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Jan 2, 2016 15:44
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lol at anybody who still honestly thinks he finishes both books before he dies
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Jan 2, 2016 16:33
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Think of the chapters he could've accomplished if he hadn't wasted all that time on excuse-posting and being a whiny bitch
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Jan 2, 2016 17:02
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GaussianCopula posted:My guess would be that Martin's new deadline is end of March, so that they can release the book a few days after the season ends. Since apparently the publishers have a 4 month turnaround time, this would put the release around the end of July, which is when ADWD came out.
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Jan 2, 2016 17:51
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Chris James 2 posted:lol at anybody who still honestly thinks he finishes both books before he dies same op
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im willing to give up twice his weight in baby sacrifices to ensure he survives to the completion of A Dream Of Spring.
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Jan 2, 2016 18:34
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Steve2911 posted:Yeah it sounded from his post that the showrunners know exactly what's going to happen now, and anything different from the books will be whatever they decide to change. Thing is, the show is changing A LOT. What story lines at the end of season 5 are more or less the same as they are in the books? -Cersei vs. the sparrows -Jon Snuh getting Caesered -Bran is a tree -Arya's faceless man training (albeit out of order) It's hard for me to include Dany in the list, because while she may be hanging out with Dothraki, everything going on in Meereen is different. Story lines involving Stannis, Sansa, Jaime, Ramsey, the Iron Islands, etc. have been blown all to hell. On the one hand, you will get spoiled by book stuff. On the other hand, you'll have no idea what it is you were spoiled on until you finally read it for yourself. GRRM said he can't think of an example similar to what we're seeing play out here between show catching up to books, but as a former weeb, I know it's pretty common in anime. Nausicaa and Akira are probably the two most high-profile examples of the movies coming out while the books were still being written and each standing well on their own merits. An example that might be closer in line with Game of Thrones might be the show Planetes, which aired while the manga was still being written and while the two had similar endings, they went about it in very different ways. Basically, this sort of thing happens a lot. Most people can reconcile the two mediums as being their own thing and enjoy them each for what they are. Those who can't end up being Linda from Tower of the Hand. So I gotta ask: do you want to be like Linda? Do you really?
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I feel reading a graphic novel vs reading 2500+ pages of books that I don't feel has the best writing in the world is a different thing. His advantage was that his plotting is, again, pretty good. But if I know the basic story beats, I don't know if I can be motivated to read those pages.
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twistedmentat posted:There's also the whole thing about her not being Arya Stark anymore, which is something that has been explicitly shown with her refusal to get rid of needle. There will be a point where she has to give it up and she'll refuse, causing the break between the House of Black and White and her. She will take the skills she has learned and return to Westeros and wade waste deep in blood. Even if she had gotten rid of Needle, I imagine her being a warg would make it next to impossible for her to ever truly stop being Arya.
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Max posted:I feel reading a graphic novel vs reading 2500+ pages of books that I don't feel has the best writing in the world is a different thing. His advantage was that his plotting is, again, pretty good. But if I know the basic story beats, I don't know if I can be motivated to read those pages. I had some fun with the first 3 books, but the last ones were a chore I only went through because I HAD TO KNOW. I cant see myself reading any more GRMM if I already knows how it ends. EDIT:vvvvvvvvv nah, the last 2 books always sucked Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Jan 2, 2016 |
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Jan 2, 2016 22:51
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Man a lot of people have suddenly decided that they hate the books in the last year or so.
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Jan 2, 2016 22:54
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Steve2911 posted:Man a lot of people have suddenly decided that they hate the books in the last year or so. It's kinda like how people stop visiting their grandparents once their health starts failing and they spend all day making GBS threads themselves and not writing Winds of Winter.
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Jan 2, 2016 23:02
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Steve2911 posted:Man a lot of people have suddenly decided that they hate the books in the last year or so. Last 2 books were mediocre at best, that hasn't changed
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Jan 2, 2016 23:09
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Steve2911 posted:Man a lot of people have suddenly decided that they hate the books in the last year or so. Have you ever wandered into the bad thread in the last 10 years?
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Jan 2, 2016 23:20
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Steve2911 posted:Man a lot of people have suddenly decided that they hate the books in the last year or so. It's become cool to hate on the books ever since the show went to utter poo poo. The people posting about the shittiness of the books are simply trolling the few genuine fans who haven't been chased away from this forum yet. Chris James 2 posted:Last 2 books were mediocre at best, that hasn't changed Feast for Crows and Dance have issues, sure. But both are as good as the original three and I'd say Feast is my favorite book in the series.
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Brienne's journey in Feast is one of my favorite storylines. There I said it.
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