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Ytlaya posted:Yeah, I was kinda disappointed by the attempt to make the Phantom Troupe seem good-ish during the Chimera Ant arc. Those guys (with the possible exception of the ones who joined more recently, like Killua's sister) have done some irredeemable stuff and aren't much better than the ants they were fighting. Much like their earlier development in the Yorknew City Arc, as well as in the Greed Island Arc, I'm pretty sure that stuff is there to show that they're people and not just one-dimensional villains. That's one of the things I love about HxH. One-time villains actually do non-villain things when they're no longer the antagonists, and the main "good" organization, the Hunter Association, is shady as gently caress, what with the license being literally a license to kill and such.
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2015 22:32 |
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 04:03 |
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Momomo posted:I've got a bunch of problems with the Chimera Ant arc, and this is one of them. Of course, after this is all over, Togashi made the exact same mistake he did with Yu Yu Hakusho and bring in a ranking system, complete with making the King a B rank. Not really. In YYH it was straight up power level. Here it's threat level. And Meruem wasn't much of a threat, all things considered, considering he could be taken out by a single low-budget not-nuke. The stuff from the Dark Continent is more dangerous due to the threat they pose and the fact that they mostly seem to be stuff you can't really kill.
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# ¿ Dec 27, 2015 22:04 |
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Serious Frolicking posted:It went further than a real nuke, as the poison spread from person to person. You can get radiation poisoning from someone who is sufficiently irradiated, but that second person won't be exposed enough for it to keep spreading at a lethal level. I think that bit is probably in reference to the fear people had that radiation was contagious in that way.
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2016 20:42 |
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RareAcumen posted:Genthru is the only real boss I didn't care for. Just did not look intimidating or interesting or anything. I enjoyed Genthru for just that reason. He's not a super criminal like the Phantom Troupe members (even if he is a mass murderer) nor is he a genetic monstrosity like the ants. He's just a top-tier Hunter, and that alone puts him head and shoulders above Gon, requiring the plan that only would have worked in GI to beat him. I also love how the first bit of their fight is one of the few more traditional fights that we get post-Heavens Arena. Clarste posted:Well, I just think it makes sense as the sort of back-up plan a clever person would choose. You want a flexible, well-rounded ability that doesn't have any glaring weaknesses, so I took the reveal as just another indication of his cleverness, rather than undermining it. Agreed. He basically took the main weakness of your average Manipulator and made it into a strength.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2016 21:22 |
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Bad Seafood posted:The Hunter Exam arc is still my favorite. This but only if GI didn't exist. The Hunter Exam arc is so good for how different it is. It has an adventurous spirit none of the other arcs quite have (GI comes close though), and the lack of Nen gives it a certain quality the later arcs lack.
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2016 01:17 |
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Serious Frolicking posted:I'm pretty sure that just about any nen user could pass the hunter exam. Squala could use nen, so therefore he had either learned it after passing the exam or else he learned it on his own which would have let him pass anyway. As Hisoka commented during the Election Arc, most hunters ain't that special. I mean, something like 1/5th lose their license within a year of getting it, even.
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2016 05:02 |
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Shakugan posted:At this point Togashi really needs to just give written general plot outlines to the creators of the anime and let them run with it. I'd make him a bunch of money and not be that burdensome an undertaking. That would probably turn out horribly given how bad the two movies are (one of which is even based off an abandoned plot point of Togashi's).
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2016 21:35 |
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Serious Frolicking posted:Killua was always stronger than Gon, though. He just didn't slam his face into dangerous situations as much. When Bisky is assessing them, she even notes that Killua is the stronger of the two, with Gon making up for it with sheer bullheadedness or something like that.
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2016 19:15 |
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Blaze Dragon posted:Maybe that will fill Togashi with determination. Nah, it'll fill him with detemmination.
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# ¿ Jan 12, 2016 04:25 |
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MonsterEnvy posted:Netero straight up said that the threats in the Dark Continent were not really about Strength. The stuff there was typically stuff that could not be fought. Which is why Netero said it was a challenge he was not really interested in. We got a few examples already with the disaster that were brought back last time there was an expedition to the Dark Continent; two that we even know what they do (the zombie virus and the symbiotic gas creatures assuming they're what Nanika is).
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# ¿ Jan 22, 2016 04:55 |
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Ytlaya posted:What's to keep Knov from dropping you into one of his rooms and just leaving you trapped there for eternity? At first I thought he had to touch you first or something, but there were scenes where it looked like he was making ants drop in from a distance. And even if he does have to touch you, that's still ridiculously useful. From how is ability is described, it seems like there are always doors in the rooms, so if there's no one else inside they could just leave. They wouldn't necessarily end up in the same place, but otherwise they'd be fine. ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Nah, I don't mean it in a Bleach-style "your THKO sure-kill ability doesn't work on me because I am vastly more powerful" type of way but more that an attack like Scream wouldn't be able to cleave through something as physically powerful as Meruem or the Royal Guard without some sort of restriction or condition. Most of their strength comes from their aura which they have to be consciously using, so if he got a sneak attack off it'd probably work. I don't think they'd be able to just straight up block it because how do you block space. They could easily dodge it though, I'm sure. HerraS posted:Apparently only Dragon Dive uses Emission? I guess it's because the one he used to fight Chrollo was connected to him the entire time. I think how it works is he transmutes his aura into various shapes (the dragon, those weird orb things) and then uses emission to send them away from himself. Since Emission isn't the primary type of Nen being used here it's still quite strong.
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# ¿ Jan 31, 2016 02:07 |
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Roland Jones posted:Zeno's non-Dragon Dive attacks almost definitely don't use Emission, since Emission is separating your aura from your body. Like, the dragon attack he used on Chrollo in Yorknew, probably pure Transmutation. Dragon Dive is the exception in his techniques, not the norm. The orb attack he uses involves launching the orbs away from his body so
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# ¿ Jan 31, 2016 17:12 |
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HerraS posted:This applies to every ark post-Yorknew City And Heaven's Arena. Hell, in the context of the whole series the Hunter exam is also this on account of how different the feel of everything is there.
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2016 19:02 |
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Brought To You By posted:Getting hit with someone else's aura will hurt you regardless of the form it takes (see Heaven's Arena arc). So the transmutation aspect for Zeno is probably purely cosmetic, he's not giving his dragons any extra properties he's just hitting people with his raw aura molded into a rough shape. I'm pretty sure that's only true if you don't have Nen (or have extremely weak Nen). If you want to hurt a Nen user you need to give it extra oomph.
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2016 08:21 |
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Jostiband posted:Out of all the many softie delinquents with a heart of gold I love him the most probably Ahem
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2016 11:47 |
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Bad Seafood posted:My personal interpretation of that flashback has always been that Netero's hits were so strong, Meruem just innately understood upon impact what he must've done to obtain that level of power. I mean that's kind of explicitly what happens, Meruem even having thoughts and dialogue to the effect of "I have no idea what he did but it must have been some literally crazy poo poo to get this powerful." The actual flashback just being for the viewers' benefit.
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2016 04:42 |
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Boogaleeboo posted:Because someone reports on the Dark Continent, the majority of the world that is filled with insanely deadly threats and esoteric dangers the likes of which even the most powerful men in history could not comprehend and challenge, and the force of blood rushing to his erection will propel him there instantly? Hisoka doesn't seem like the type of person that would enjoy the threats that exist on the Dark Continent, like Netero. They look for strong opponents in a fight, the stuff on the Dark Continent mostly seems like apocalyptic disasters that you can't fight because they're a disease or w/e.
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# ¿ May 4, 2016 00:02 |
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Stairmaster posted:i hope they get past their differences and have hot sex
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# ¿ May 5, 2016 01:35 |
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Eej posted:Reminder that the Hunter Association considered Meruem's colony as a B rank threat. I can't remember if that was entirely due to Pariston's meddling or not though. He was a B rank because that could just blow him up with a nuke. Higher ranks are for stuff that can't be nuked like that zombo disease.
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# ¿ May 7, 2016 06:15 |
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This should be in the OP.
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# ¿ May 11, 2016 05:29 |
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Crain posted:Oh. Ok. I guess the translation I read messed that up. AFAIK Pitou is referred to as neutrally in the manga and the ants probably don't even have a sex aside from the queen, let alone a gender.
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# ¿ May 12, 2016 04:16 |
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davidHalestorm posted:Probably by spending hours sitting down and hunched over your drawing board for years on end. This is especially true if he happens to be genetically predisposed towards back issues. My mum is like that and has worked office jobs for the past 40 years and has had to have four major back surgeries (with a fifth likely coming up in the next few years).
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# ¿ May 17, 2016 22:33 |
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Arkeus posted:Hisoka is fun so he seems 'better'. Chrollo OTOH actually has depth in his character as well as consistency. Chrollo does not have much depth to his character.
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2016 22:37 |
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Rohan Kishibe posted:I think, technically, it's just giving the aura the properties of lightning rather than actually creating real electricity, but the difference is pretty academic I suppose. Given that it's called transmutation I would imagine it's turning your aura into that thing.
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# ¿ Jun 4, 2016 21:20 |
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Law Cheetah posted:theres no reason for him to instigate the fight if he's not already a murder clown. if he's not a murder clown then he just exposes and fights and murders this dude that taught him nen for no discernible reason. (obviously, hisoka's not the type of guy to care about delivering justice to serial murderers) Well he did have a reason in that he wanted to know how Moritonio's nen worked. But yeah, overall there wasn't really much of consequence in this. I still enjoyed it; it was cool seeing someone else (who is competent) tackling writing HxH stuff.
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# ¿ Jun 6, 2016 02:08 |
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Law Cheetah posted:trained hunter x hunter humans arent normal humans, theyre manga humans. they can lift billion ton doors and stuff Which was presumably through unconscious Nen usage.
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# ¿ Jun 8, 2016 04:46 |
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Nahxela posted:I'm still upset that they took away Kite's introduction from the beginning of the series. So much emotional weight lost. Not really. Kite is introduced so early on and without much impact that he's pretty much completely forgettable by the time you reach the Ant arc.
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# ¿ Jun 11, 2016 00:53 |
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Asuron posted:He's literally the entire reason Gon even wants to become a Hunter, the reason why Gon even ends ups wanting to go after his dad and alot of why Gon is so angry in the Chimera Ant arc is based entirely off that fact, as opposed to the new anime where he barely knows him at all and gets super mad because...? I mean yeah he's a friend at that point and growing into a mentor, so I'd expect him to be angry, but the kind've anger he showed would've only been reserved if Kite had been someone as important as he was supposed to be initially. Kite is important for Gon. The anime does not change this. They merely change that scene from the first to a flashback that plays after Gon warps to Kite. The only thing having that scene at the very beginning could do is introduce him early to give more emotional attachment for the viewer as Nahxela suggested, but he's there for such a short time that that can't really happen. And introducing him then having literally nothing to do with him until 60 episodes in is just kind of lovely writing, so it's best that they moved that scene.
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# ¿ Jun 11, 2016 02:14 |
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I always figured Illumi's drawback is it only works on sufficiently weak people. Someone strong would be able to resist it, which is why he was only able to influence Killua.
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2016 22:56 |
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Lol @ the three effort posts about the princes.
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2016 05:52 |
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EmmyOk posted:I think Kurapika's abilities are the only ones where I kind of rolled my eyes at how OP they are. They way he beat Uvogin didn't feel smart because it was just "lol I can tank your hits because I am SPECIAL". Eh, not really. Emperor Time just put him on a somewhat level playing field as Uvo, while still being quite a bit weaker at combat. His victory only came about due to his smartly-developed Chain Jail, otherwise he probably wouldn't have stood much of a chance.
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2016 18:57 |
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EmmyOk posted:It's like in Naruto (I'm that guy) where a couple of episodes in you're like "why do you way prefer this dude to your main character?". I wouldn't say he tanks a blow considering it shatters his arm. He's still nowhere near Uvo's level at pure combat, Emperor Time just lets him be at his strongest now rather than having to train for years, which is more of a narrative shortcut than anything. Which means as far as Specialist abilities go it's kind of bad, since he'd be that strong anyway after sufficient training. The healing chain is pretty good but we have no idea how potent it actually is. It can heal limbs but for all we know it can't reattach them or heal more serious injuries. That plus it takes enough time that in combat it would really only work once as from then on a competent opponent would keep him from using it, so against a master enhancer he's still be up a poo poo creak. Again, he was only effect as he was against Uvo thanks to Chain Jail.
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2016 20:22 |
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EmmyOk posted:Didn't Togashi work on Phantom Rouge or The Last Mission? They're both very bad and misunderstand fundamental things about the series. IIRC his only connection with those is that PR is based on backstory he cut.
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2016 00:18 |
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MonsterEnvy posted:Man that does make so much more sense. I was kind of lost on those panels. MS's translation made sense to me, but lol at it being entirely different than the official translation.
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2016 01:00 |
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Voted Worst Mom posted:They're two different interpretations of the same material, translated into English. I'm sure both versions lose some meaning in translation. The Viz version is obviously better, but I don't see why you're all making a big deal out of it; both versions are pretty good. Because they have completely different meanings. MS's versions just completely makes up that there's a criminal ring causing issues through identity fraud with its mistakes. Which is a pretty big mistake, given that the Phantom Troupe are likely to be involved meaning you'd think that criminal ring might be them.
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2016 03:42 |
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Tunicate posted:Gon wasn't actually using his real nen, he was using wing's nen that had been given to him, so really his real nen just needs to be truly brought out, possibly by being stabbed by a nen sword or having a near death experience where he half turns into an ant because he was half bug all along. All according to keikaku, Tonpa whispers in the shadows.
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2016 23:38 |
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Dias posted:But Killua and Gon have always been relevant. Do you really think he'd do away with both those characters for more than an arc and no one at Jump would go "ahm, could you please use the shonen protags again kay thanks". I mean, I hope he has that much creative control, but I can't think of any big shonen anime that would get away with that - gently caress, not even Toriyama could get away with that. If HxH continues to sell well then yes, I'd expect they would. I mean, they're fine with the incredibly inconsistent updates because it sells well, so I'm pretty sure they're fine with anything.
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# ¿ Jun 24, 2016 01:48 |
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Stairmaster posted:it's a popular fan theory that alluka is something from the dark continent because she says ai a lot and that's one of the deadly things there. That and the fact that one of the calamities brought back from the Dark Continent was responsible for twisting a number of people in a fashion very similar to what happened when that butler lady refused Alluka's requests.
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# ¿ Jun 24, 2016 02:23 |
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Kyte posted:What I want is for him to make up his drat mind, decide on a schedule, whether that's one a year, once a quarter, once a month or whatever and stick to it. Probably because he doesn't want to. Whether it's simply how he prefers to work or if he thinks it fits the pacing he wants to create better, he chooses to do it weekly when he's able to. If you're really that upset about things then just drop the manga for a few years and pick it up when there's a larger stock of chapters available.
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# ¿ Jul 4, 2016 16:47 |
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 04:03 |
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e X posted:Weird how opinions can differ. This is pretty much my exact reason why the Hunter Exam is one of my favorite arcs (just slightly behind Greed Island). It just has a sense of adventure that future arcs kind of lack thanks to the introduction of Nen neatly explaining all of the weird poo poo.
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