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Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
Descent was great, but Forsaken was 3D accelerated and very purdy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5KEQHh7XN0

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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule



https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000370602903.html?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.27c82e0e98CugK

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

LifeSunDeath posted:

We rented one once, my buddy got so mad at vitura fighter he ripped the disc out and started sanding it down on the fireplace bricks, then kicked the poo poo out of the console...somehow the video rental place took it back and didn't say anything.

Everything I know about Saturn owners comes from this

https://www.somethingawful.com/news/sega-saturn/1/

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


https://i.imgur.com/VoH78Kh.gifv

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

There's been a project going on to get some Lucas Arts games that weren't released on the Atari ST computers working on them by using a modified version of SCUMM VM

So far three games have been converted to run on the ST/Falcon - Monkey Island 2, Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis and Day of the Tentacle. They use the DOS versions of the games, and run a pkg wrapper to get them running on the ST. It is still very early days and some of the games are a bit rough.

I gave the first two games a try to see how they go, as I have the originals of both games (Amiga version, but that means I can run the DOS versions I got from archive.org, right?). Both games start on my system, but Monkey Island 2 refuses to go any further than the intro screen. This is running on my 1040STE with 4MB RAM.













The SCUMM VM files can be found here: http://www.happydaze.se/scummvm-lite-atari/

Development on this project can be found here: https://www.exxoshost.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=2644&sid=7e80f4a1a686dd3892098dcc883dd0ed

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day
That color pallet lol, it's hard to look at.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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Techmoan managing to find an innocent use for that coke bump key.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

LifeSunDeath posted:

That color pallet lol, it's hard to look at.

Yeah, 16 colours on screen is tough to look at

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

oh my god :allears:

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

You Am I posted:

Yeah, 16 colours on screen is tough to look at


vs

not sure if you were being condescending or not, anyway, bye for now.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


shovelbum posted:

you had to have it in a game where session lengths stretched into poopsock territory.

I don't know if it was intentional, but it probably makes WoW a lot more accessible to people with disabilities, who perhaps can't use the mouse and keyboard simultaneously or have to use specialized controllers.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

LifeSunDeath posted:


vs

not sure if you were being condescending or not, anyway, bye for now.

The ST can only really show 16 on the screen at once, compared to 32 on the Amiga.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

LifeSunDeath posted:


vs

not sure if you were being condescending or not, anyway, bye for now.


sometimes older technology doesn't work as well as newer technology.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Last Chance posted:

sometimes older technology doesn't work as well as newer technology.

The first time I played monkey island it was with EGA graphics...I don't really know what I'm trying to say, carry on everyone.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

~50% of Atari ST software was just the Amiga version but with worse sound and all the graphics run through a 32->16 colour filter, and if someone even bothered to go in and touch up the horrible dithering then you were lucky.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA

barbecue at the folks posted:

I noticed that the latest W10 update shuffled the settings another step away from Control Panel and among other things made the mouse cursor freely scalable and you can change the colour freely as well. You can now rock an inch-long pink mouse pointer and that just means that Windows wins by default.
I need to tell you how important this has been for my life, now that I have an enormous comedy mouse cursor that matches my stupid keyboard and case LEDs.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Dr. Quarex posted:

I need to tell you how important this has been for my life, now that I have an enormous comedy mouse cursor that matches my stupid keyboard and case LEDs.

Oh this is so good, why didn't anyone tell me about this?

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Scored a Sega Genesis Mini cheap today and yeah I can do the normal Project Lumar for more ROMs...but cos I'm loving retarded, currently desoldering the NAND and dumping it, whilst awaiting the slightly different yet higher capacity version to clone to for more ROM space to actually get a full region set of games...

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Humphreys posted:

Scored a Sega Genesis Mini cheap today and yeah I can do the normal Project Lumar for more ROMs...but cos I'm loving retarded, currently desoldering the NAND and dumping it, whilst awaiting the slightly different yet higher capacity version to clone to for more ROM space to actually get a full region set of games...

you're making me want to buy a MiSTer

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


LifeSunDeath posted:

you're making me want to buy a MiSTer

I'm stupid because I already own two real Mega Drives, one with an Everdrive with full MD/Gen set + 32X, Master System and CD BIOSs to play multiregion MCD games.

Which I don't even play with.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




My biggest problem with original genesis/32x hardware is that it’s composite only. I’ve already killed a 32x attempting to svideo mod it :smith:

gourdcaptain
Nov 16, 2012

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

My biggest problem with original genesis/32x hardware is that it’s composite only. I’ve already killed a 32x attempting to svideo mod it :smith:

I thought the Genesis supported RGB (and with the right cables you can convert that to Component)?

azurite
Jul 25, 2010

Strange, isn't it?!


Yeah, you absolutely can do 32X in RGB. Svideo works better for some folks though.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Jim Silly-Balls posted:

My biggest problem with original genesis/32x hardware is that it’s composite only. I’ve already killed a 32x attempting to svideo mod it :smith:

I have the Hyperkin HDMI cable and it outputs great!

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnvaRWtWjHU

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day
Even growing up around midis I always thought "why the gently caress do these sound so terrible?" While other people were like HOLY poo poo THE THEM TO MASH IN MIDI!!!!

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer

LifeSunDeath posted:

Even growing up around midis I always thought "why the gently caress do these sound so terrible?" While other people were like HOLY poo poo THE THEM TO MASH IN MIDI!!!!

mod files was where the good music happened

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

LifeSunDeath posted:

Even growing up around midis I always thought "why the gently caress do these sound so terrible?" While other people were like HOLY poo poo THE THEM TO MASH IN MIDI!!!!

I was more thinking "holy poo poo my PC can produce sound that lasts longer than a few seconds" and "as well as looking amazing, DOOM has music?" The images on my screen were pretty low-fi so it made sense for the sound to be as well. I wasn't all that interested in collecting MIDIs of popular songs though I admit.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Buttcoin purse posted:

I was more thinking "holy poo poo my PC can produce sound that lasts longer than a few seconds" and "as well as looking amazing, DOOM has music?" The images on my screen were pretty low-fi so it made sense for the sound to be as well. I wasn't all that interested in collecting MIDIs of popular songs though I admit.

Right, it was fine for early games, but I remember getting bamboozled by late 90's websites talking about downloading music and it would end up being a midi song, meanwhile napster existed and I could get actual songs.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




There was precisely one good midi: canyon.mid

Otherwise MODS were where it was at

Moo the cow
Apr 30, 2020

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

There was precisely one good midi: canyon.mid

Wow, nostalga hit here.

I don't think I ever listened beyond the first 30secs, because by that time I had either gotten the soundcard/speakers working, or I had to go and change some setting and so restart the clip for the next test.

zharmad
Feb 9, 2010

MIDI on a good sound card with a good wavetable could make the music sound pretty drat good. I remember upgrading mine from an old adlib to an awe64 and being amazed at how much better Ultima online's music sounded.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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Also if you were into electronic music, the MIDs could replicate the original pretty well. Just disable the vocal line on Robert Miles’ Children and you’re good to go!

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

EL BROMANCE posted:

Also if you were into electronic music, the MIDs could replicate the original pretty well. Just disable the vocal line on Robert Miles’ Children and you’re good to go!

Lol I remember that song.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Mod files were wild with electronic music because sometimes they would sample the same thing the song they were replicating sampled, sometimes they would sample the song directly, sometimes they would rig up their own samples, you never knew what was coming down the pike

I wish my child brain could have comprehended mod trackers back then. I could have had a blast with it

Instead I hosed around endlessly on mixman which somehow still exists I guess? https://www.mixman.com

I also had the Mixman DM2 controller, which owned for its time and also somehow is still sold on amazon dm2 Digital Music Mixer https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002GCFDFM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_p7vZEbJN4FCZM

Who is still biting DM2’s in tyool 2020? I swear mine is from the late 90’s

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

Mod files were wild with electronic music because sometimes they would sample the same thing the song they were replicating sampled, sometimes they would sample the song directly, sometimes they would rig up their own samples, you never knew what was coming down the pike

I'm always reminded how in the early days of MP3s I couldn't find songs like Robert Miles' "Children" or U96's "Das Boot", but I could easily find the mod versions which were easily 90% there.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Mod/S3M/etc files were great but they never quite brought back the feeling high school me got from running this over and over

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8jaTnFkBVw

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA

Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:

mod files was where the good music happened
Agreed, though being into .MODs I can also confirm there were plenty of people who were like "... Why are you listening to this computer music crap when you have a stereo?" WHATEVER, LIKE YOUR 90S MUSIC HAS HELD UP NEARLY AS WELL

I got my first piece of fan mail in like seven years the other day, a request for the original file of my song from a guy who is seemingly trying to track down the source tracker music for any .MP3 he loves that we're originally made in a tracker so he can make sure the encoding is ideal. That is a level of dedication I wish I had

Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:

mod files was where the good music happened
The BEST MUSIC

I remember the early days of .MP3 trading when I still argued .MOD was superior because file size was still a real issue. I mean I still argue the same thing now despite having converted all my demoscene tracks to .MP3

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
You can find a handful of MOD and S3M files for Mega Man fan music on the Mega Man Homepage, which itself is a relic of fandom.

http://mmhp.net/Sounds/MIDIs/

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Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

LifeSunDeath posted:

Right, it was fine for early games, but I remember getting bamboozled by late 90's websites talking about downloading music and it would end up being a midi song, meanwhile napster existed and I could get actual songs.

Late '90s? I assume they were to play on your phone or use as ringtones, rather than listen to admiringly on a full blown PC :shrug: Or is that too early for MIDIs on phones?

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