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Nothing much later than WWII, please. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYmasgNskzw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_TrTBwppso https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1HA-J0Io4k
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Why is this not getting replies? Weird-rear end old cartoons are LIFE. Here's my first contribution and one of my favorite short films of all time - the 1978 classic "Ringing Bell" (Chirin no Suzu) which now only exists on VHS rips and this Youtube upload: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H4urzLIBlc There's a dubbed version as well but I wouldn't recommend it. There's a completely unnecessary narration over the quiet moments that kills the eerie mood. "Ringing Bell" was based on a children's book by a WWII Japanese child soldier who saw horrors he could never directly talk about. He write the story of a naive sheep gaining the strength of a wolf and thus losing his mind in the process as a way to cope with his pain. It seemed to do the trick as he went on to have a healthy career as a cartoonist for decades afterward.
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Mar 19, 2016 22:18
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Holy gently caress.  I'd never seen or heard of ringing bell before. Did they show it to kids in Japan, or is it just that the people in the US thought cartoon=kids' film?
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Mar 20, 2016 02:53
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lShmx5OcBI
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Mar 20, 2016 02:56
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Fair enough
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Mar 20, 2016 03:46
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmIVW6nXX0I That fukkin' 
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Mar 20, 2016 05:57
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How could you omit this one? The Skeleton Dance (1929) https://youtube.com/watch?v=h03QBNVwX8Q
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Mar 20, 2016 07:33
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Domus posted:Holy gently caress. "Ringing Bell" is pretty much ignored outside of Japan, where it's considered a classic (apparently). I've been trying to get my hands on a copy of the original picture book for a while now. Yeah, it was totally marketed as a kid's film because of the "all cartoons are for kids hurr dee durr" attitude that still kinda exists today. However, it was seriously shown to kids in Japan back then and the kids didn't even bat an eye to it because they're hardcore little bastards. I love the US's cartoons but we're kinda soft when it comes to getting experiential in emotional tones and themes. Save for pioneers like Bakshi, Chung, and some music video specialists there's not that much to find (if you want to prove me wrong please do - I would be crazy stoked to see it). You need to go to England, Germany, the post-Soviet States, and especially East Asia for the real mindfucks. Behold the kinda-forgotten Yellow-Submarine but better-looking epic "Fehérlófia" (Son of the White Mare). It's kinda long and it's worth it just to see the first few minutes of psychedelic paint-on-glass awesomeness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwzqtF2W6RQ IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083931/ A man is born the son of a horse with superpowers and uses them to do battle with legendary dragons. Also, loads of bizarre sex imagery because Eastern Europe in the 70's.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQfSGDdHRW4 Hope '84 isn't too recent? :nsfw: because of some quick half second shots of animated nippleshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nWn7rEy5co Davinci has a new favorite as of 09:07 on Mar 20, 2016 |
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Pre-WWII cartoons terrify the poo poo out of me. Modern-day footage of violence I can handle, but there's something about this rubber hose poo poo that is poured right out of the human collective nightmare. Tex Avery once said in an interview that most of the animators back them were high out of their goddamn minds on over-the-counter liquid heroin and cocaine-laced "cough drops", and seeing what they produced I believe it. Davinci posted:Hope '84 isn't too recent? :nsfw: because of some quick half second shots of animated nippleshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nWn7rEy5co Aw hellz yeah Estonia!  Nah, 1984 isn't too recent. I don't think we should have a block at this point. Anna and Bella! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0qnXOzxQgA
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Mar 20, 2016 09:28
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The "St. James Infirmary Blues" funeral scene from Betty Boop's "Snow White": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDATXtewPrg "No Scrubs" circa 1932 (actually 'In My Merry Oldsmobile', a car advert animated by Fleischer Studios. The animation isn't especially trippy, but it's a favourite of mine because it shows that not much has changed in advertising, suggestive scenes included): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--11JyXJtZg If we're allowed anything later, the 70's were good for imagery apparently siphoned from the dreams of someone running a fever of 103°. The infamous Greedy Song from "Raggedy Ann and Andy" is something I was repulsed by as a child, and it still makes me feel a bit queasy; from the comments on Youtube, it seems I'm not alone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC7PtQh4gA8 The evolution-themed 'Bolero' from Bruno Bozzetto's "Allegro non Troppo", a cartoon compendium film which also includes the more standard tearjerker 'Valse Triste' (the one where a tabby cat wanders bout the ruins of its former home, hallucinating about happier days). I had never heard Ravel's Bolero before seeing this aged 9, so it made a huge impression and left me amazed and disturbed for days: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0s4y9M5W8o
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Mar 20, 2016 18:18
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I think it was Nickelodeon that used to air these cartoon compilations in the 1980s. This one stuck with me more than any other. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_7QIYb4A5M
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Mar 20, 2016 18:27
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wayne curr posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmIVW6nXX0I In over 20 years, you're the first other person I've seen that's shown any sign of knowing anything about this. My favourite is the Fire guy.
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Mar 20, 2016 18:34
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RC and Moon Pie posted:I think it was Nickelodeon that used to air these cartoon compilations in the 1980s. This one stuck with me more than any other. For gently caress's sake it's just tobacco. Did they used to lace it with harder drugs back in the 30's? I honestly wouldn't be surprised Carnival of Shrews posted:If we're allowed anything later, the 70's were good for imagery apparently siphoned from the dreams of someone running a fever of 103°. The 70's rocked the socks in terms in experimental animation worldwide. Add it all. Carnival of Shrews posted:The evolution-themed 'Bolero' from Bruno Bozzetto's "Allegro non Troppo", a cartoon compendium film which also includes the more standard tearjerker 'Valse Triste' (the one where a tabby cat wanders bout the ruins of its former home, hallucinating about happier days). I had never heard Ravel's Bolero before seeing this aged 9, so it made a huge impression and left me amazed and disturbed for days: Allegro non Troppo was amazing. Huge respect for the man after all the work he put in. Adding "Grasshoppers" to the Bruno Bozzetto awesome train: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijcuXh-Lk9E
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Mar 20, 2016 18:41
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Since people are posting stuff well after WWII, but it's all cool stuff, maybe I should change the OP to reflect that.
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Mar 20, 2016 19:10
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Probably for the best, not much early animation online in general.  Anyway here are a couple I like. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2ixgZ6YsxM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXrCMDoQbtQ
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Mar 21, 2016 04:21
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Antitonic posted:In over 20 years, you're the first other person I've seen that's shown any sign of knowing anything about this. Disney Channel used to show it regularly back in the 1980s. They used to show a lot of European animated films dubbed to English in the early days of the channel. More European films dubbed to English and shown on early Disney Channel: Peter No-Tail and its sequel, Peter No-Tail in Americat from Sweden. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Azoul7Vi24 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUpSB64EgnQ The Dragon That Wasn't (Or Was He?) from The Netherlands. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW1dxDUQW6o Moon Madness (aka The Secret of the Selenites) from France (only the opening credits). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUT0SGgR_ro Early cable TV was really weird.
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Mar 21, 2016 05:20
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Wow, haven't seen this in ages. Not surprising since showing a child smoking, even if it was depicted as a negative thing was one of the big moral panic issues a few decades ago.
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Mar 21, 2016 06:57
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My Merry Oldsmobile--1931 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--11JyXJtZg
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Mar 21, 2016 08:32
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Riki Tiki Tavi narrated by Orson Wells https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzGiZzfZjZc
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Mar 21, 2016 09:24
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Here's one I saw as a kid, a Russian folktale made into a full length movie and then brought over with a half assed dub and VHS release. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0m-0bvap5A The english dub lost a lot of charm from the original. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ngwh5r7tW4
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Mar 21, 2016 12:23
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Related to old cartoon, there's a videogame getting released (in theory...already delayed a few times) called Cuphead that's a love-letter to old 1930s cartoons. http://cupheadgame.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJszILRT_D4
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Mar 21, 2016 13:46
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Mysterious Citys Of Gold https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq5Y_ogiyi0
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Mar 21, 2016 14:05
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Samson and Sally, a charming tale involving deaths by harpoon, oil spill, and toxic waste. Can only find some short clips (from terrible dark cuts) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrCPGiliR_0
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Mar 21, 2016 15:57
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There's a cartoon i hope someone here has any clue what it could be...I'm pretty sure it was animated somewhere in Europe in the late seventies. It was about some kind of goofy super hero and his dimwitted sidekick going to an island to try and stop some evil genius who sent out tiny self-guided rockets that would hunt down anything with a certain amount of brainwaves then embed themselves in their victim's skull, rendering them stupid and remote-controllable...This was long rear end time ago since i've seen this (1980-81) and can't find anything about it on Google.
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PocketLibrarian posted:Samson and Sally, a charming tale involving deaths by harpoon, oil spill, and toxic waste. Can only find some short clips (from terrible dark cuts) Sheeeeeeeeit I forgot all about this. I saw it as a kid and was blown away by it. The scene where Samson slowly inches towards a raft with three guys in it was especially unsettling. The guys are scared but not sure what to do. It's not until he's literately touching the raft that they shoot him, causing him to immediately flip the raft and all three die in the icy water. No music plays in this scene. The camera lingers on the upside down raft bobbing on the surface before gradually fading to black. Eerie. Here we have highlights from "The Brave Frog". I have no idea why this loving thing exists. It's just horrible event after horrible event with no payoff or direction. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXdk_dnUit8 Mr.Chill has a new favorite as of 20:26 on Mar 21, 2016 |
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I'm going to try posting at least one pre-WW2 cartoon for every later one. The classic "How a Mosquito Operates" from 1912, assuming a mosquito the size of a toy poodle, with a capacity of at least a pint. It doesn't need a 6 minute runtime, but it's definitely ancient and weird: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77cn30IeZPU And here's the psychedelic 'Moth Song' from Shinbone Alley, a cartoon film based on Don Marquis' 'Archy and Mehitabel': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fsvUAhKfzI Shinbone Alley was not a hit even in 1971, partly due to the fact it's kinda gritty. Archy has been transformed, Kafka-style, from (presumably) human into (normal-sized) cockroach after jumping from a bridge, and attempts suicide several times more; his cat pal Mehitabel gets into abusive relationships, and sings fatalistically about how she'll end up a victim of the catgut trade. Shinbone Alley is a real mishmash of animation styles, but still quite entertaining and it's a shame it's not called 'Archy and Mehitabel', as Don Marquis fans would probably like to know of its existence. I haven't found in complete form on Youtube
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Mar 21, 2016 21:21
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Suur Toell! This was in another iteration of the 'weird animation' thread and I love it. Kinda violent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDEI06J00nk
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Mar 21, 2016 23:00
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEwE4wyz00o
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Mar 21, 2016 23:07
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Bimbo's Initiation is great, and here it is in 1080p! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gua71Ia7rAU Also, "Wow, a Talking Fish!" is worth seeing just for the weird-rear end animation of the villain. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmB4DfG-3K4 Kikka has a new favorite as of 23:53 on Mar 21, 2016 |
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Mar 21, 2016 23:42
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Carnival of Shrews posted:I'm going to try posting at least one pre-WW2 cartoon for every later one. Gaaah! The size of the mosquito just makes it look like he's repeatedly lobotomizing the man. Something about how the skin offers no resistance is just disturbing.
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Mar 22, 2016 02:56
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I get the impression that a lot of these early cartoons from the 20's and 30's are sort of like CGI stuff from the early to mid 90's; people were watching it mostly to admire the novelty of the animation and weren't expecting any sort of plot to speak of. You'll notice how a LOT of those cartoons are just cool animations of people dancing and weird (but cool looking) stuff happening. That balloon cartoon is a really good example of this; the plot is kind of creepy and weird, but the idea of a bunch of balloon people fighting off a guy with pins is a good setting for a bunch of neat/unique animation.
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Mar 22, 2016 04:49
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The old Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe cartoon used to freak me out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfm_qtMOz7E About 1:19:00, a good bunch of weird animation.
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Mar 22, 2016 05:38
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0KF5_wcIv0
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chirpy At the bottom of the article is a link to the cartoon on youtube 
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wayne curr posted:
Oh. Oh my god. This was banned in London on obscenity charges. Not is the 60's, in 2001. A cartoon about a bird loving a horse. I've never heard of this one. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. To contribute, here's one of my top ten favorite movies of all time - "Angel's Egg" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcBjr8gt2Xs "Angel's Egg", 1985, directed by Mamoru Oshii (Ghost in the Shell) made it as a way to communicate the pain he felt after losing his faith in Christianity. There is very little dialogue, focusing mostly on the atmosphere and music to tell the simple but powerful story. It took me a couple re-watches to fully grasp the imagery, including getting a friend who was raised Roman Catholic to point out some of the symbolism, which was great because that ending shot was just confusing to me before he explained it. It's overall a wonderfully rich experience that I would encourage everyone who likes passion projects to take a look at. It's not long, about 70 minutes, and unfortunately pretty obscure. I would LOVE to see a blu-ray release to get a fuller effect. I mean, just LOOK at some of this:      Each frame is like a dang painting. Mr.Chill has a new favorite as of 13:44 on Mar 22, 2016 |
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Mar 22, 2016 13:33
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Kick Me, a trippy 70's cartoon occasionally played as filler on early HBO that scared the crap out of me as a kid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cKoFOCo7rk
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Kammat posted:Kick Me, a trippy 70's cartoon occasionally played as filler on early HBO that scared the crap out of me as a kid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhe3vSe-mmw Here's a couple that I saw at a very young age, which caused me to develop a childhood phobia of stop-motion animation, especially claymation. I actually had nightmares that were entirely in claymation, how crazy is that. Still squicks me a little. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB0ULTprzOw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1cMpKjoNaI
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Mar 22, 2016 15:57
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I'm surprised this one hasn't been posted yet. They used to show this on cable (HBO, I think?) back in the early days of cable, and it is not something you want to see when you're like 9 and haven't figured out that "not all cartoons are for kids" yet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH7LcVNusQE
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Carnival of Shrews posted:I'm going to try posting at least one pre-WW2 cartoon for every later one. If you think that's weird check out Dreams of the Rarebit Fiend (the 3rd clip in this compilation is particularly creepy.)
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