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tankadillo posted:Having slept in a hammock many nights, I can say that your fancy -12degree down sleeping bag will compress underneath you and provide insulation equivalent to a sheet of paper. I've never heard of hammocks designed to put padding inside but those sound like they'd be pretty sweet. My Blackbird has two layers of fabric, allows you to slip in a thermal blanket\pad\whathaveyou. It's also why I use a purpose built quilt that hangs underneath the hammock and has shockcord to pull it up to you, keeping the insulation nice and lofted. I then use a normal bag like a blanket, the footwell works pretty well to keep it in place when using like a top quilt. Not exactly cheap, but warm and comfortable as all hell. Given that I actually use them for maybe 10 days a year on the outside they should last me a very long time.
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TouchyMcFeely posted:If you're interested in trying out hammock camping on the cheap, keep an eye on the Sports section of Woot. They have Yukon brand camping hammocks and rain flies all the time. I'm sure many places in Canada just don't give a gently caress, it's just the places I usually go have special rules.
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PirateDentist posted:My Blackbird has two layers of fabric, allows you to slip in a thermal blanket\pad\whathaveyou. It's also why I use a purpose built quilt that hangs underneath the hammock and has shockcord to pull it up to you, keeping the insulation nice and lofted. I then use a normal bag like a blanket, the footwell works pretty well to keep it in place when using like a top quilt. I sort of regret not getting a double bottomed hammock. I cannot stay on a pad for any length of time, so I am looking at under-quilts. I tend to sleep with my legs drawn up most of the time, so I am thinking a 3/4 quilt might work, but it would suck to spend the money and discover I am wrong. Is there a place online to buy used hiking/camping stuff? My local craigslist is kinda crap and I don't trust ebay for anything over like ten bucks.
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amazon had a ton of brands of these on sale for 30 bucks shipped with ropes and ties and poo poo included, but they all seemed like the same design with different brands stitched onto the same factory hammock i dont give a gently caress about pads or warmth, but i do worry about bugs and rain, anyone have a real cheap recommendation for one with a built in rain cover? having to tie a huge tent over your hammock seems dumb, there isn't one that just zips up on top like a water resistant sleeping bag in the air?
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bongwizzard posted:I sort of regret not getting a double bottomed hammock. I cannot stay on a pad for any length of time, so I am looking at under-quilts. I tend to sleep with my legs drawn up most of the time, so I am thinking a 3/4 quilt might work, but it would suck to spend the money and discover I am wrong. You might try the hammock forums for sale board. https://hammockforums.net/forum/content.php extra stout posted:amazon had a ton of brands of these on sale for 30 bucks shipped with ropes and ties and poo poo included, but they all seemed like the same design with different brands stitched onto the same factory hammock Yea, for a cheap one I usually recommend that $25 blue outdoor hammock at Walmart coupled with some Atlas straps and climbing carabiners. I've been using that as my indoor hang almost daily for about a year with no problems. quote:
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Retarded Pimp posted:Do you mean something like a cross between a hammock & a bivy sack?
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Uekyq posted:Not gonna lie, that'd be loving cool. A quick Googling shows a Kickstart vapor ware, one that leaks and this one. http://www.amazon.com/Lawson-Hammock-Blue-Ridge-Camping/dp/B002QZXV5S
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Retarded Pimp posted:You might try the hammock forums for sale board. i dont know what a bivy sack is, honestly i just want a cheap hammock with a tarp that secures over it so i dont wake up with animals or water or bird poo poo, crazy to think that these people arent ahead of me on this idea and everybody puts 10 feet of wood and tent poles and poo poo in their backpack might have to do some inventing of my own
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Jan 8, 2016 06:06
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Dude even a cheap tarp weighs like 10oz.
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Retarded Pimp posted:A quick Googling shows a Kickstart vapor ware, one that leaks and this one. This is something I'd like to see more products like. I'm not so certain about that exact design but I think the whole idea is still neat.
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Why not tent and hammock? http://m.rei.com/product/874682/tentsile-stingray-tree-tent Other than cost.
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On one hand I sort of understand how that could be fun to setup in your backyard for the kids to play in. On the other hand, jesus that's dumb.
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extra stout posted:i dont know what a bivy sack is, honestly i just want a cheap hammock with a tarp that secures over it so i dont wake up with animals or water or bird poo poo, crazy to think that these people arent ahead of me on this idea and everybody puts 10 feet of wood and tent poles and poo poo in their backpack A bivy sack is kind of like a cross between a sleeping bag and a one man tent. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bivouac_sack
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Two years ago I did a week on the AT and I had serious sliding downwards problems in my Blackbird. I'd set the foot end 6" higher and I'd still slide downward. So last year I went with a tent setup and a Neoair Xtherm. I ended up sliding around inside the tent like a zamboni every night. I loved the hiking but I dreaded getting into camp each afternoon because I just couldn't sleep comfortably. Maybe I should've hiked longer and gotten more tired?
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Jalumibnkrayal posted:I loved the hiking but I dreaded getting into camp each afternoon because I just couldn't sleep comfortably. Maybe I should've hiked longer and gotten more tired? Nah, you should just sleep in your backyard every night so that you're used to it.
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Jalumibnkrayal posted:Two years ago I did a week on the AT and I had serious sliding downwards problems in my Blackbird. I'd set the foot end 6" higher and I'd still slide downward. So last year I went with a tent setup and a Neoair Xtherm. I ended up sliding around inside the tent like a zamboni every night. Did you lay diagonally?
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Retarded Pimp posted:Did you lay diagonally? Yep, feet in the footbox. I remember also trying the ballerina pose or whatever it's called: didn't seem to make a difference.
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I'm looking into purchasing my first underquilt. I'm cheap as poo poo but too lazy for DIY. I was looking at the Snugpak Underblanket but then saw the Snugpak Hammock Cocoon. Does anyone have any info or insight on one vs the other, pros/cons etc?
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Jalumibnkrayal posted:I ended up sliding around inside the tent like a zamboni every night. Thank you for this image.
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...and just like that, Yukon Hammocks and rainflys are back on sale at woot. http://sport.woot.com/plus/yukon-outfitters-hammocks-17?ref=sp_cnt_wp_3
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TouchyMcFeely posted:...and just like that, Yukon Hammocks and rainflys are back on sale at woot. Those are surprisingly nice hammocks. I've picked up a bunch of them over the past couple years and given them out as starter gifts for family and friends to get started with hammock camping. Several of them are still kicking after 2-3 years of use.
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I used the rainfly last year on a trip with no problem, it's a bit small for something like the big 11ft Blackbird, but it fits the mosquito hammock just fine. Some zing-it cord, line locks, and Dutch flys make for a quick setup.
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Dr Ozziemandius posted:Those are surprisingly nice hammocks. I've picked up a bunch of them over the past couple years and given them out as starter gifts for family and friends to get started with hammock camping. Several of them are still kicking after 2-3 years of use. thanks to guy who posted the link, ozzie which tree straps do you use? i was pretty pumped to buy that mosquito net one but the comment says it doesn't come with straps, gotta check how much a decent pair will cost me before i click the button
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I'm partial to Atlas Straps but I'm too lazy to learn proper knots. You will find that when it comes to straps there's as many opinions are there are options and they all work pretty well.
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Yea, Atlas straps are easy and work pretty good, get some climbing carabiners and you're good to go. That's what I'm hanging from right now along with an Equip outdoor hammock from walmart.
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extra stout posted:thanks to guy who posted the link, ozzie which tree straps do you use? i was pretty pumped to buy that mosquito net one but the comment says it doesn't come with straps, gotta check how much a decent pair will cost me before i click the button Honestly, I've mostly used the multiple sets of tree straps I've picked up from Hennessy Hammocks over the years. I've had a Expedition Asym for years and picked up different length straps for it and swapped 'em out with other hammocks. I just picked up a set of Atlas straps this summer, but only got to use them once. They were fairly easy, but a lot heavier, and not that much easier given the weight and space difference. I just picked up a DutchWare buckle system thing of some kind that I have no idea how to set up yet, but it's supposed to be the bee's knees. I gotta look that poo poo up on YouTube sometime. Dr Ozziemandius fucked around with this message at 07:37 on Jan 13, 2016 |
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Retarded Pimp posted:I've been using that as my indoor hang almost daily for about a year Retarded Pimp posted:That's what I'm hanging from right now do you not have a bed
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Beds are for squares.
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turevidar posted:do you not have a bed Yes, and a hammock too.
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Retarded Pimp posted:Yes, and a hammock too. Indoor hammock in the summer is great. A nice cool shower then into the hammock is awesome on a hot night. I live in Phoenix, so outdoor hammock when it's 110 outside is not really a sane option.
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Picnic Princess posted:Tying to trees is illegal in our parks up here, so it's either tent or tarp unless you're on crownland. Which is boring so no one I know even owns a hammock for backcountry or camping. Even hunters don't bother. Hammocks are just not a thing up here. Is this in the provincial parks? I've never seen any signs or anything.
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PirateDentist posted:Indoor hammock in the summer is great. A nice cool shower then into the hammock is awesome on a hot night.
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Retarded Pimp posted:Outdoor anything in a Phoenix summer isn't sane, now's the time to go out and do stuff there. Where the hell do you hang from around there? Saguaro aren't exactly tree strap friendly. I know some people hang from trees in parks for an afternoon. My outdoor time is on a stand I built for my balcony that's nice most of the year. Unless you head north that's about it unless you're near water. I like getting out to the national forest a couple times a year, get up to about 7k feet in the pines. PirateDentist fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Jan 17, 2016 |
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I love my hammock. Use a Grand Trunk Skeeter-Beater which has a built in bug net, is well constructed, and super comfy. Still trying to figure out the underquilt thing. I got one from DD hammocks and found myself quite cold most of the night. Not sure if I set it up incorrectly, but I was less than pleased. Gonna try it out again later in preparation for a weekend trip I'm going on in a few weeks. If I can't get it to work well enough I may drop coin for a heavy duty down UQ. Maybe Jack'sRBetter's Mt Washington model which looks straight up luxurious.
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Can someone explain 3/4 vs full length under quilt? Other than weight savings, is there some reason you wouldn't want your feet or head insulated from the bottom?
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TouchyMcFeely posted:Can someone explain 3/4 vs full length under quilt? Other than weight savings, is there some reason you wouldn't want your feet or head insulated from the bottom? It's really just weight and size reduction.
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Crazyeyes posted:I love my hammock. Use a Grand Trunk Skeeter-Beater which has a built in bug net, is well constructed, and super comfy.
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TouchyMcFeely posted:Can someone explain 3/4 vs full length under quilt? Other than weight savings, is there some reason you wouldn't want your feet or head insulated from the bottom? I am tempted to go that way as I sleep with my knees drawn up to my chest, but I am leery of spending the money on something that might not work.
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TouchyMcFeely posted:Can someone explain 3/4 vs full length under quilt? Other than weight savings, is there some reason you wouldn't want your feet or head insulated from the bottom? When camping in a tent a 3/4 sleeping pad is lighter to carry and then you just throw the top of your pack under your feet. It is pretty slick.
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Crazyeyes posted:Still trying to figure out the underquilt thing. I got one from DD hammocks and found myself quite cold most of the night. Not sure if I set it up incorrectly, but I was less than pleased. Gonna try it out again later in preparation for a weekend trip I'm going on in a few weeks. If I can't get it to work well enough I may drop coin for a heavy duty down UQ. Maybe Jack'sRBetter's Mt Washington model which looks straight up luxurious. Mine is suspended with shock cord so it's tight and snug against me when I'm laying down. It holds the hammock up if I'm not in it. The wind tended to catch mine and pull it out from under me, but it has extra loops along the edges so I have a second bit of shock cord going over the ridgeline to add extra support and that hasn't happened since. Where are you cold? All over or just the bottom?
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