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Veloxyll posted:But then he wouldn't get his sword! You can still get the sword if he abysses himself, that's how I got the halberd in a future area.
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Veloxyll posted:But then he wouldn't get his sword! Black Knights work like Minibosses, dastardliness is encouraged.
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Just rang the first bell. So I am now... at the point where my playthroughs always end. Gonna try to push past though.
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Just chiming in to say I dig the solo commentary. I fear that adding co-commentators would only serve to distract you from the storytelling which I think is the main draw of this LP.
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Alrighty, I'm back in the States and also totally through my video buffer once I post this: 06 - Taurus Drake In which I take way too long fighting a boss because I'm rambling and then get overly sentimental about the Drake Sword. Enjoy! e: whoops, here's the article I talked about in the vid: http://www.destructoid.com/a-grandson-s-struggle-with-alzheimer-s-and-dark-souls-243378.phtml Vicas fucked around with this message at 05:11 on Jan 6, 2016 |
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Solaire will stay there until the end of the game if you don't talk to him. It's actually a useful way to "correctly" complete his quest line as you can kill the bugs before ever talking to him. You also definitely can slide down ladders, but it is a bit picky. It seems like you have to be stationary on the ladder before you start holding B to do the slide, which looks like the reason you're having trouble with it.
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Ziere Tole posted:Solaire will stay there until the end of the game if you don't talk to him. It's actually a useful way to "correctly" complete his quest line as you can kill the bugs before ever talking to him. That actually makes sense since otherwise the item that lets you summon help would be missable. Edit - I made this post before watching the video, that's why this post is so incredibly useless. CuwiKhons fucked around with this message at 03:27 on Jan 6, 2016 |
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vicas keeps remarking about version differences but was anything actually outright removed like he thought the drake sword might be?
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death .cab for qt posted:By the way, you never showed and read the description of the Estus Flask. It's kind of important. A few little details wrong there. The Mask of the Father increases equip load, not Stam regen (that's Child I think). The build usually skips the Cloranthy ring in order to use both Havel's and the Ring of Favor and Protection. Both ring are ALSO equip load boosters. The final touch is that you only raise your offensive stats just enough to use the sword with both hands and make it into a Chaos weapon, which scales based on liquid humanity. It's insanely tanky both defense and poise wise and once you stun someone they're pretty much dead. It's so simple and straightforward that it induces endless rage in opponents. See also. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyA8odjCzZ4 7c Nickel fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Jan 6, 2016 |
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That linked article really touched a nerve. Going to be hard to see hollowing in any other light now.
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Smoky Bandana posted:That linked article really touched a nerve. Going to be hard to see hollowing in any other light now. Whiiiich reminds me, I forgot to link it in the post and OP, like I was meaning to  It's in the YouTube description as well, but in case people didn't see it: http://www.destructoid.com/a-grandson-s-struggle-with-alzheimer-s-and-dark-souls-243378.phtml
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Vicas posted:e: whoops, here's the article I talked about in the vid: http://www.destructoid.com/a-grandson-s-struggle-with-alzheimer-s-and-dark-souls-243378.phtml See now, the "Yulia is a cat" thing had me like, okay, you're taking the piss. But this puts it in the right light. And this, now, this is probably one of the single strongest images running through this series, and it's incredible, and it's heartbreaking. When they talk about humanity being a theme and not just a gameplay mechanic, this is what they mean, because this is as human a subject as it gets. If there is one thing that Dark Souls II does right, story-wise, is carry this theme along. Spoilers just in case anyone has yet to play and intends to, but to lay it all out: The intro cutscene dives right into it by having an image of the classic Madonna and Child, that timeless icon of love and family, melt before a hollowing undead's eyes. It's similarly overt in other places, like with the armorer, and the blacksmith and his daughter. It's subtle, in others, with the sorcerer and his pyromancer apprentice. It's even subverted in places, with the most visibly ancient character, the hag merchant, coming off as lucid, energetic, and even a bit roguish. Your own story starts you off in a home of the elderly, along with their very patient caretaker, who only have dismissals and derisive laughter for you, and reaches a climax showing the fate of the monarch you've been instructed to seek out. No lie, seeing the fate of King Vendrick -- the stark, unfettered, straightforward reveal that it was -- might've been the only time in recent memory where a video game got me seriously choked up. It's all about what "going hollow" actually represents, and it might be Dark Souls' best claim to the old "games are art" argument. But I still think Yulia is actually the Undead Merchant's uchigatana. Mazed fucked around with this message at 06:29 on Jan 6, 2016 |
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While the arrow strategy is popular and safe. Its perfectly possible to use a melee weapon and some of the Gold Pine Resin to just hack the tail of when the Drake has landed. To me it feels like that is the intended way to grab it. When the Drake lands it breathes fire and gives you a good opportunity to walk to its back and give the tail 2 or 3 heavy swings, which is enough to cut it off with the Resin up.
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Tzarnal posted:While the arrow strategy is popular and safe. Its perfectly possible to use a melee weapon and some of the Gold Pine Resin to just hack the tail of when the Drake has landed. To me it feels like that is the intended way to grab it. When the Drake lands it breathes fire and gives you a good opportunity to walk to its back and give the tail 2 or 3 heavy swings, which is enough to cut it off with the Resin up. I've never tried that before but it doesn't surprise me that it would work. Given its low stat requirements and difficulty scaling past a certain point (as all dragon weapons are) I really do think the Drake Sword was intentionally made fairly easy to get if you're paying attention or daring enough. It feels like a very From-style way of making an easy-mode
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Vicas posted:I've never tried that before but it doesn't surprise me that it would work. Given its low stat requirements and difficulty scaling past a certain point (as all dragon weapons are) I really do think the Drake Sword was intentionally made fairly easy to get if you're paying attention or daring enough. It feels like a very From-style way of making an easy-mode Eh, I'm not a huge fan of it and feel like it's a newbie trap, honestly. The attack pattern isn't super-great, and it's slow. Also fairly heavy. If you try to use it much past the first bell you're going to get wrecked. I speak from experience.
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In my first run I rocked it all the way to Sen's, at which point I had a better handle on the crafting system and overall gameplay. The attack pattern is slow but it teaches you a lot about how the game itself is slow and methodical
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I'm wondering if the drake dragon fight works as FROM intended. It's not very interesting of a fight if you get one-shot by a foe and the environmental guards make me think you should be able to use those but then it launches into a vertical attack that completely nullifies any defenses you may have had (and then does it again while you're stunlocked if you managed to survive). Not a fan of the drake. OTOH the game clearly intends for you to go under the bridge for the first time through what with the locked gate and the hollows & rats positioned just right for ambushing a player coming from the undead burg bonfire so IDK. double nine fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Jan 6, 2016 |
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Okay, I thought he was just petting the barrel, but if he's petting an invisible cat IN the barrel, that makes his "watch out, she bites" comment make a lot more sense.
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I always figured he was talking about the sword he drops.
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Vicas, how are you planning to talk about the story? You mentioned that the mother and child statues are important imagery, but didn't talk about why. Are you going to wait until later in the game, or after you finish an area, or...? I ask because I wonder how freely we can talk about story stuff and how it plays into level design in this thread.
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It's easy to miss, but you got an extra chug of Estus during the fight against Taurus, with a subtle glow and sound effect to go with it. If I recall correctly, it took a loooooong time for the community to confirm what caused that to happen.
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Paracelsus posted:It's easy to miss, but you got an extra chug of Estus during the fight against Taurus, with a subtle glow and sound effect to go with it. If I recall correctly, it took a loooooong time for the community to confirm what caused that to happen. Someone upvoting a note you made, right?
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Speedball posted:Someone upvoting a note you made, right? I thought it was someone kindeling your "home" bonfire.
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I'm sorry, Vicas, but did you say you can't slide down ladders in Dark Souls 1? 
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Tzarnal posted:I thought it was someone kindeling your "home" bonfire. It's this. Somebody upvoting your note heals you to full but doesn't give you a charge of estus.
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CuwiKhons posted:It's this. Somebody upvoting your note heals you to full but doesn't give you a charge of estus. Actually, rating a note in DS1 does absolutely nothing at all. That's why a grand majority of notes written are at 0, because there's no reason to ever rate them 
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Promontory posted:Vicas, how are you planning to talk about the story? You mentioned that the mother and child statues are important imagery, but didn't talk about why. Are you going to wait until later in the game, or after you finish an area, or...? I am doing absolutely no planning at all and just talking about whatever feels good to talk about. I've been pretty free with spoilers pertaining to DS1 in this thread because this is sort of aimed at people who have played the game before and know the general flow of things So basically go hog wild, but please try to keep it at least tangentially related to where the LP has reached. There's no reason to talk about the Sisters of Chaos or Gwendolyn's whole deal right now, but if you wanna talk about that mother/child motif and reference things later in the game that's fine. I don't really have much to say on it beyond pointing it out anyway, truth be told Lizard Wizard posted:I'm sorry, Vicas, but did you say you can't slide down ladders in Dark Souls 1? I was trying to slide the DS2 way, shrug. A lot of the minor changes 2 made to the mechanics really throw me off Paracelsus posted:It's easy to miss, but you got an extra chug of Estus during the fight against Taurus, with a subtle glow and sound effect to go with it. If I recall correctly, it took a loooooong time for the community to confirm what caused that to happen. I saw it happen but I was in the middle of something else and forgot to go back to it. I'll try to remember to talk about it next time it happens, but I'm not really in a rush to explain it because it can happen just about anywhere in the game. You can kinda assume that about a lot of the mechanics that recur throughout the game
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Vicas posted:I saw it happen but I was in the middle of something else and forgot to go back to it. I'll try to remember to talk about it next time it happens, but I'm not really in a rush to explain it because it can happen just about anywhere in the game. You can kinda assume that about a lot of the mechanics that recur throughout the game As a happy coincidence. Before when you were discussing Humanity from kills you managed to get a humanity from a hollow during your discussion of it, don't know if you ever noticed, you didn't mention it. But it was very convenient.
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Vicas posted:I was trying to slide the DS2 way, shrug. A lot of the minor changes 2 made to the mechanics really throw me off No matter what people may say about DS2, a lot of the Character/Control/Camera changes are really good and better than DS1 overall. Plus there are more viable variations in weapons, spells and armors. I've been replaying DS1 recently (inspired by this thread actually); When I got to Anor Londo, literally everybody I dealt with was wielding a great scythe (both invading and summoned).
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Yeah, DS2 really refined the gameplay of DS1 and took out a lot of the rough bits and annoyances. Jumping in this game is a real adventure
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Jolyne Cujoh posted:oh cool it's Gwyn's Firstborn Not necessarily, but you bet your rear end Solaire is a Gwyn fanboy at the least. One of the things I love about Dark Souls is how so little of the background images are just there to be background. Usually, if you can see it, you can later visit it.
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Speedball posted:Not necessarily, but you bet your rear end Solaire is a Gwyn fanboy at the least. I can't wait for Vicas to go to the sun.
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Speedball posted:Not necessarily, but you bet your rear end Solaire is a Gwyn fanboy at the least. I believe this was before the "See those mountains there? You can go there" became a marketing catch phrase.
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I never liked the "Solaire is the Firstborn" theory. It sort of trivializes his character, in a way. Like, every detail about him, via his gear, seems to emphasize that he's a perfectly normal guy who earned his skills through good old-fashioned practice. While he emulates Gwyn and the nameless firstborn in certain ways, it's more likely that he's simply done his research and is cultivating that image on purpose, given how openly he idolizes the Lord of Sunlight. Despite other NPCs commenting on his thickheadedness, I like to think he's pretty well-read. "The flow of time is convoluted, and relations shift and obscure" aren't the words of a moron. Also, no wonder he's so popular. Dialogue and goofy poses aside, he's one of the first people you'll meet who's openly kind and helpful.
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Mazed posted:Also, no wonder he's so popular. Dialogue and goofy poses aside, he's one of the first people you'll meet who's openly kind and helpful. Perhaps the only unambiguously friendly guy except for maybe a few trainers, yeah! Everyone else is bizarre and/or threatening in an offputting way.
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Was looking at the Old LP. Question anyone know what part Nito is fought in.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Was looking at the Old LP. Question anyone know what part Nito is fought in. *distant laughter, as if carried from far away by a stiff breeze*
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Though in all honesty I believe Geop cut it into the very last video of that LP.
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Mazed posted:I never liked the "Solaire is the Firstborn" theory. It sort of trivializes his character, in a way. Like, every detail about him, via his gear, seems to emphasize that he's a perfectly normal guy who earned his skills through good old-fashioned practice. While he emulates Gwyn and the nameless firstborn in certain ways, it's more likely that he's simply done his research and is cultivating that image on purpose, given how openly he idolizes the Lord of Sunlight. While my original post was mostly just trolling since I know there are a lot of people around here who absolutely despise this theory, I'm gonna respond to this because it's the most common criticism of the theory that I see and I've never really seen how it's valid or how it trivializes Solaire's character in the slightest. The ring says that the firstborn had his "deific status" rescinded, which can be read in a lot of ways, and the way I've always read it is that it took away not only his title or his name, but the powers that would have made him godly in the first place. If all of that got taken away from him, if he was left with nothing godly, hell not even a human (or an undead), but he still worked as hard as he could after that to be great again, to find the sun, his father, and became, through himself alone, the badass lightning thrower that we know, I think that makes for a better story than him just being some dude.
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