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When they take 2 or 3 years to film 3 90-minute episodes I feel like they should just let them all be a lot more standalone.
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elementary is so much better, like it's almost shocking
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corn in the bible posted:elementary is so much better, like it's almost shocking You know, this is the only site where I find this opinion and I completely agree with it. I have no idea why people love Sherlock so much. I tried it once and found myself drifting because it was so dry.
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Jan 2, 2016 00:14
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Humperdink Cabbagepatch is also hideous and I can't believe he's on TV.
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About 1/3 of Sherlock is great and the rest is almost unwatchably bad. I haven't given Elementary a shot at all yet. Is it good, or just "better than Sherlock"?
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It's really good. Miller and Liu are both great and get some really natural, nuanced character development as the show goes on. Also for a procedural on CBS it has one of the most realistic and brutally honest portrayals of recovery from addiction on TV. Not for everyone and I know some people just didn't get hooked enough to keep with it, but it's a well done show that's worth checking out. It's the kind of show that you can kind of forget about and then catch up on over a weekend when you've got nothing else to watch. Also John Noble is in the newest season and basically plays Walternate, so it's got that going for it.
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Elementary is good but it's still 80% procedural CBS cop show
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Watched the first episode of Peaky Blinders the other night and was really impressed, especially by the cinematography. Does the quality hold up or should I just walk away now before disappointment sets in?
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Cool, I might give it a shot sometime. I didn't know who was in it, and when you said Miller I was gonna say, "If Wentworth Miller is the lead, gently caress it I'm out," but I see that it is not him.
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Jan 2, 2016 00:31
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Snak posted:About 1/3 of Sherlock is great and the rest is almost unwatchably bad. There's still the unfortunate issue of it being a procedural, but they do the best they can with it. The rest of it really works well though. On paper it sounded kind of like a disaster, but it doesn't shy away or romanticise any aspects of Sherlock's character (Which I feel Sherlock does a lot) and treats his intelligence as a burden that stops him relating to people. Most importantly, it treats Holmes and Watson as equals without ever hinting that it's going to stray into a romance.
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Jan 2, 2016 00:32
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Mu Zeta posted:Elementary is good but it's still 80% procedural CBS cop show Well yeah that's kind of a given. I mean, that's kind of Sherlock's thing and the reason why there are a billion TV shows that are just "Sherlock Holmes except it's totally not because he has this one gimmick". Timby posted:Watched the first episode of Peaky Blinders the other night and was really impressed, especially by the cinematography. Does the quality hold up or should I just walk away now before disappointment sets in? What?  It's just TV man, watch things that you enjoy watching and then if you stop enjoying them stop watching them. It doesn't have to be complicated.
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Well yeah, but then a Glee or BSG or Lost might happen and all their fond memories would be poisoned.
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Jan 2, 2016 00:36
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Timby posted:Watched the first episode of Peaky Blinders the other night and was really impressed, especially by the cinematography. Does the quality hold up or should I just walk away now before disappointment sets in? The second season is way better than the first, so if you already like the first it can only go up from here.
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I don't mind a procedural as long as I'm in the mood for it. I watched Castle for years. It took quite a bit for to finally say wow this show is poo poo and stop watching it.
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I've seen almost every episode of Elementary and I still have no idea what Lucy Liu's original job in the series was. Apparently you can get paid to live with someone. What if Sherlock was poor and didn't live in a sweet rear end brownstone?
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Mu Zeta posted:I've seen almost every episode of Elementary and I still have no idea what Lucy Liu's original job in the series was. Apparently you can get paid to live with someone. What if Sherlock was poor and didn't live in a sweet rear end brownstone? She was hired as a sober companion by his father. It's a real thing that you can pay someone to basically be a babysitter and make sure you go to meetings and stay sober.
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Timby posted:Watched the first episode of Peaky Blinders the other night and was really impressed, especially by the cinematography. Does the quality hold up or should I just walk away now before disappointment sets in? Every episode gets progressively better, actually.
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Mu Zeta posted:I've seen almost every episode of Elementary and I still have no idea what Lucy Liu's original job in the series was. Apparently you can get paid to live with someone. What if Sherlock was poor and didn't live in a sweet rear end brownstone? she was a care worker who was hired on to help him keep off the drugs
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the fact that lucy liu watson gets to actually do things and figure stuff out (and gets annoyed when sherlock acts like she can't) makes her better than most on-screen watsons, not just the bbc one
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I never got into Elementary because Sherlock for all its faults had a rad pilot and puts out three episodes every year or two instead of having 20 hours to slog through every year with a mediocre pilot and the promise that at one point it gets better.
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Jan 2, 2016 00:59
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corn in the bible posted:the fact that lucy liu watson gets to actually do things and figure stuff out (and gets annoyed when sherlock acts like she can't) makes her better than most on-screen watsons, not just the bbc one Even better people were furious that Watson was a woman, then everyone was shipping them, but by the midpoint of season 1 it was concrete that Watson and Sherlock were best friends and literally never going beyond that. she ends up banging Mycroft, a suave hipster-ish restaurant owner in this version, and Sherlock is pissed only because he hates his brother and thinks she wasted her time
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Suave and hipsterish are nothing close to describing him. More like greasy pedo mustache man.
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Mu Zeta posted:Suave and hipsterish are nothing close to describing him. More like greasy pedo mustache man. Agreed, the guy was loving gross looking.
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Elementary is hopefully going to end in Season 5 after they've hit the 100 episode mark, since I can't really see them making this last beyond it. Sherlock and Watson have basically completed their character arcs, and the only two big things left in the show are Sherlock's father, which they're dealing with right now, and Moriarty, which is obviously what you end a Sherlock Holmes show with.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Elementary is hopefully going to end in Season 5 after they've hit the 100 episode mark, since I can't really see them making this last beyond it. Sherlock and Watson have basically completed their character arcs, and the only two big things left in the show are Sherlock's father, which they're dealing with right now, and Moriarty, which is obviously what you end a Sherlock Holmes show with. They already introduced her.
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bobkatt013 posted:They already introduced her. But not anywhere close to finished with her. Just like Sherlock's father has been introduced.
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bobkatt013 posted:They already introduced her.
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DrVenkman posted:Most importantly, it treats Holmes and Watson as equals without ever hinting that it's going to stray into a romance. Is there any other man/woman TV pairing that manages to pull this off, or even tries?
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Happy 2016 TVIV, can you please direct me to the cable cord cutting info thread that I'm sure is on this site somewhere, I just can't find it? Or can you tell me if Sling TV is worth it and/or is it different from Slingbox because that confuses me a bit.  my directv bill is killing me
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The only problem with Elementary is a lack of Clyde.
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There should be a drinking game to accompany The 100. Take a shot every time Clarke's directly or indirectly responsible for someone's death. One shot per corpse. Drink every time: * you forget a major character's name. * the laws of physics are contradicted. * you misattribute an enemy to the wrong faction. * you spot an article of armor/clothing that was modified from something on sale at Hot Topic. * an adult behaves in a condescending, patronizing manner. * a terrible teen alt/pop song comes on to ruin the mood * someone recovers from a potentially mortal wound in under an hour Give out a shot if you call a red shirt character death within 30 seconds of it happening. Take a shot if you're wrong.
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That list would leave you not even slightly buzzed and then stone cold loving dead in one go.
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Bruceski posted:Is there any other man/woman TV pairing that manages to pull this off, or even tries? Leslie Knope and Ron Swanson
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Dick Van Dyke & Mary Tyler Moore.
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We're about seven episodes into Prison Break Season 2 and still enjoying the silliness and insanity of it all. I like that they're not afraid to kill off major characters. When it was on, were there lively discussion threads here? Did people generally like it? I get the impression T-Bag would have become an unlikely fan favorite and "breakout character" (no pun intended). And in Season 2, when Veronica Donovan and "Tweener" were killed off, was that because they were annoying or unpopular with viewers, or in the case of the former, the story arc was slowing down the momentum of the show? I didn't enjoy either very much, so I wondered if the showrunners interacted with their fan base at the time. I do miss Abruzzi, though.
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Yeah the threads were pretty popular. The episode where that last character you mentioned died, was on 9/11 which I never have forgotten.
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wow victorian sherlock sucks a lot
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less laughter posted:I'm not surprised at all, the trailers made it look absolutely horrendous. Another Showtime So what you are saying is that each season will get progressively worse and worse, but it will still run for 6+ seasons.
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It takes a rare gift to write a story that's predictable as hell while also being loving stupid thanks Sherlock writer man
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