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thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

Snak posted:

I really liked The English Patient. But I saw it when I was way younger and probably thought it was good because it seemed like a "grownup" movie.

It's really not a film that has held up well. Most of the characters were unlikable.

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thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

Lady Naga posted:

I can't remember a single scene she was in besides those two.

Yeah, she was Dean's go to happy life for being a hunter. Dean got to to act like a cool stepdad for a bit.

They stopped the apocalypse, then Moose crawled out of hell, and then it's back to hunting. She at least managed to avoid the Winchester curse.

thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 07:24 on Feb 3, 2016

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

zoux posted:

He'd actually probably be a great pick. If you saw his Cars and Comedians he's actually really funny when he's not reading cue cards, and I dunno if there's anyone more passionate or knowledgeable about cars.

Yeah, Jay Leno Would be my top pick as an American Host for Top Gear. Leno spent the fortune he made from the Tonight Show filling his garage with antique cars. Even if you don't think he's funny, Leno is a gearhead and is seriously into cars.

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

X-O posted:

If some basic cable network wanted to show a program with uncensored language they're free to do it. But they don't do it because of advertisers. FCC does have a say in what they consider obscenity on cable, but that doesn't cover language. AMC can show an episode with 50 "fucks" in it if they're confident advertisers won't pull the plug but the FCC will step in if they try to show any actual loving basically.


https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/guides/obscenity-indecency-profanity-faq

To clarify, the FCC has nothing to do with cable channels, it can really only regulate what is said over the airwaves. So basically, ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, Fox, and a UHF station or two depending on your local market .

The threshold for what is allowed in cable is usually set by the local cable providers and advertisers.

IFC and Sundance are both niche channels that show tits and rear end, and allow uncensored fucks. The word, not the act. Still, good luck finding them .

So if you see Comedy Central showing an uncensored version of the South Park movie at 2 AM, odds are most of the advertisers are going to be Trojan condoms, Adam and Eve, and cam websites that really don't care if the Family Research council boycotts them.

As for actual loving, my local cable provider will happily show it, they just charge extra to see erect penises penetrating vaginas.

Actual obscenity, when not delivered over public airwaves is usually restricted to kiddie porn, scat, and bestiality.

thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 12:36 on Feb 9, 2016

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

Vanderdeath posted:

Danny Rand being a white dude adds nothing to his character and having him be an Asian-American with ties to Kunlun would make far more sense than the usual "white dude comes into mystical realm and becomes the king/godhead" trope that's been around since the Edgar Rice Burroughs days.

The Immortal Iron Fist is one of my favorite modern runs but I would've loved to have seen an Asian-American lead for once.

Either have have the white guy go fish out of water, master some martial arts, or have some asian dude be a master of martial arts. It's kind of racist either way. It's either mighty whitey or all Asians know martial arts cliche.

I think the character arc works better if Danny Rand is a rich white guy who has to learn humility to become Iron Fist.

thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 11:13 on Feb 26, 2016

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

Toxxupation posted:

notice hwo the exact same people who claim The 100 is 'good' claim that Gotham is now 'good'. draw your own conclusions, bown. namaste

While I wouldn't argue that The 100 is a great must watch TV show like The Wire, or Breaking Bad, but If you want a non-cape related Sci-fi show, The 100 is actually pretty good, just with some really annoying flaws*.

Yeah, the first few episodes are pretty much a CW version Lord of the Flies, but in the future. But so far it has actually done a fairly good job of world building, and most of the conflicts make sense beyond a simple us vs them, and most of the conflicts are between characters with different viewpoints, experiences, and motivations, so lots of shades of grey in there. Think of it as Fallout meets Game of Thrones without the dragons and tits, and on the CW.

*Because the show is actually pretty fast paced, It often sacrifices character development as the plot demands. This sometime leads to characters doing things wildly out of character because the plot demands it, instead of feeling like a natural development of a character.

I also gave up on Gotham about 3 or 4 episodes in.

thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 10:38 on Mar 2, 2016

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

Hughmoris posted:

How's "The Killing" (US Version)? I can't say I've heard too much about it but it looks to be highly rated on Netflix and IMDB. Looking for something new to dive into now that I've finished Hannibal.

The Killing is generally disliked by goons, including myself, although it does have a few defenders around here.

Ever watch a cop show like Law & Order where the cops go around talking to red herring suspects for about 5 minutes before it turns out that that the suspect has an airtight alibi, then they move on to the next suspect? The Killing is the first half hour of a Law and Order episode stretched out over two seasons.

Pretty much every every episode is them interviewing a potential suspect, then it turns out this suspect couldn't have possibly done it, but then there's another suspect that might have done it, move on to the next episode. Goto 10, Lather, Rinse Repeat. No, the next suspect didn't do it either.

That might be justifiable if the suspect's stories were interesting and engaging. Unfortunately, they're not. The showrunner thought that 'plodding and boring' was the same thing as 'deep'.

thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 08:48 on Mar 3, 2016

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

raditts posted:

It's so weird seeing people talk about not getting references to the OJ trial. It's also how I know I'm old now.


They do follow up on that a bit in season 2, they haven't dropped that thread completely.

And yes, Ravi is easily the best character on the show.

I feel for you Raddits. During the court room scenes in Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt I kept thinking that they should have gotten Mike Myers in yellowface to play the judge, and it would have been peak 90's SNL. (What does he have going on, is there a huge market for The Love Guru 2?)

And yes, Ravi is the best.

thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 10:52 on Mar 7, 2016

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

BSam posted:

Need some context for this.

Same. Did they do "When the Man Comes Around" again? Because that's starting to become a trope.

thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Mar 10, 2016

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

raditts posted:

The live action Tick was hot garbage anyway, wake me up when they're reviving the animated series.

I thought the live action Tick was OK. I mean I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, but I chuckled a few times. That said it really needs to be animated to capture the insanity of The Tick universe without budget constraints. A couple of people standing on a roof describing wild things happening off screen doesn't cut it.

Regy Rusty posted:

Thanks so much to the people in this thread who said to give House of Cards another chance. Season 4 was incredible and I am totally back on board again.

So do the political plots on HoC make a lick of sense now? I gave up on HoC back in season 1 when Frank Underwood threw a core constituency under the bus for no adequately explained reason, and that somehow made him a political genius because the plot demanded it.

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

Regy Rusty posted:

No, believable politics is not what the show is about nor what I want from it. It's about watching a megalomaniac try to manipulate everyone around him to accomplish ridiculous impossible things as he sets up an increasingly fragile scaffold of lies, secrets, and crimes just waiting to fall down around him. It's not even slightly realistic and it isn't trying to be.

When I say that season 4 is incredible I mean it from the perspective of someone who loved seasons 1 and 2 but hated 3 because 3 went nowhere and was extremely boring. 4 is great because the went back to what was good about the show in the first place.

So if you didn't like it to begin with you still won't like it now.

Fair enough.

I guess it's one of things where if you know enough about a subject, it's annoying to see it handled wrong. It's like watching one of those shows like NCIS handling computers, and I start sounding like a commercial, "That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works."

I mean in order for the show to feel like there is something at stake, then there has to be a risk that the Frank is going to be busted. I get that all protagonists usually have some form of plot armor, but it's another thing when the Frank avoids prosecution because well he's a political genius, with no further explanations necessary.

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

Escobarbarian posted:

I think the issue is that Frank getting away with anything is done in a cheap way, not that it happens at all.

Pretty much. I think politicians get away with crap all the time, and escape consequences because of their connections.

So if Frank got away with murder because he had incriminating evidence that the head of the FBI was into crossdressing, and likes to go to gay orgies, then that would make sense. Instead, it's just presented as Frank Underwood is some political genius that you peons wouldn't understand, so we won't bother explaining how he avoids prosecution to you.

Yes, I get that Frank Underwood is a monster in plain sight, but you kind have to explain how he gets away with it beyond a wizard did it.

thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 10:43 on Mar 13, 2016

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

Sleeveless posted:

Almost everything in fiction is handled "wrong" because it's about telling a story and not being slavishly devoted to realism.

Most fiction tries to keep itself within the realm of plausible. Even if it's not realistic, I can accept the possibility of a NYC Cop using a firehose to rappel down the side of a skyscraper to escape a massive explosion. As in every incredible thing that ever happened in Die Hard is more plausible than the plot of House of Cards.

You don't get to escape criticism about a TV show by just saying that it's just a TV show, who needs any sort of reality? House of Cards is supposed to be be a premium drama that should wake people up about politics. Instead, it's just a well produced TV show with glaring plot-holes that you could drive a MAC truck through it.

If House of Cards is filled with made up TV people in that don't actually exist, then what's the point of watching the show? Might as well go watch some Sci-fi like BSG or Star Trek. They're at least honest about having made-up worlds.

thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 12:51 on Mar 13, 2016

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

Sober posted:

I don't know what was worse, the way they handled Black Widow or how the fans literally and at times purposely misinterpreted the "monster" line through sheer ignorance.

Also I'm somewhat concerned about just how Civil War is supposed to come out because it's basically a superhero team up movie for all intents and purposes. And we all know things like the Avengers are dumb fun but ultimately really shallow.

Meh, worst case scenario is that it's as bad as the storyline it's based off of. That said, hopefully it's a one and done story that might be somewhat coherent, unlike the story it's based on.

As long as they have superheros beating each other up, it's OK. But we're probably not going to get any "I know Thor. Thor is a good friend of mine, Thou is not Thor," scenes.

thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 12:09 on Mar 19, 2016

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

IRQ posted:

I just got to what appears to be the end of the Punisher arc in ep 4, is that it? He was great.


Also I would totally watch a show that was just Foggy and Matt handling lovely cases and owning the DA while trying to keep the lights on.

It's followed up by a story arc about the People vs. Frank Castle, and guess which plucky upstart law firm is willing to defend him?

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

X-O posted:

The Tick just went from "Eh, I dunno" to "Oh poo poo, yes!" with the casting of Peter Serafinowicz as The Tick.

I was gonna say that I haven't seen Peter Serafinowicz with an American accent, but whatever, he looks the part, so let's give The Tick an English accent. Giving him a random British accent makes as much sense as anything else on the Tick. It's not like it's a series with a strong continuity. It's not like the previous live action version had CHA on the moon.

thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 07:37 on Mar 23, 2016

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

Cart posted:

The good news is he can do pretty much any accent. Likely including Patrick Warburton.

Good to hear, I mostly just know him as the rear end in a top hat roommate from Shaun of the Dead, and the rear end in a top hat giving shipping reports in his sexy voice that cause women to try to rub one off listening to him reading shipping reports from Black Books.

thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 08:46 on Mar 23, 2016

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

muscles like this? posted:

They've announced more casting for American Gods, Sean Harris who was the bad guy in the last Mission Impossible movie has been cast as Mad Sweeney the leprechaun, Yetide Badaki as Bilquis the love goddess with a scene that's very hard to believe will make it onto the show and some guy who's never done anything before as Technical Boy.

I'm kind of surprised, I figured that any adaptation would cut the Bilquis bits, since it's a minor side story in the book, and yeah, there's no way in hell that the Bilquis bits from the book could make it it to film, outside of maybe some weird-rear end porn.

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

STAC Goat posted:

Yeah.

Although as far as I know CW only runs 2 hours/4 nights as opposed to the 3 hours/5-6 nights the other networks run. I don't know if there's any major hurdles there but I guess they could always expand a little if they really wanted to. But obviously the motivation to do that wouldn't be to run a DC super hero show every night of the week.

I don't know what the deal is with CW. If it's just a matter of money and lack of shows or there are syndication contracts or something that stop them from expanding. But the thought crossed my mind a couple of weeks ago when they renewed all their shows. It made me wonder if they were planning to expand their schedule next season or if they just didn't plan for any new shows.

Well, it''s also not unheard of for TV rating trends to crater suddenly. Remember back when Who Wants to be a Millionaire was a ratings juggernaut and was on 5 days a week in primetime? Arrow and The Flash get good ratings by CW standards, but having a third of your network riding on one particular horse isn't a great long term strategy, especially when other superhero shows are on the big 4 aren't exactly huge breakout hits.

Renewing shows like Supernatural and the Vampire Diaries makes sense, since they get the highest ratings on the network after the Superhero stuff, and have a fairly hardcore fanbase. It also makes sense to keep Jane the Virgin and Crazy Ex-Girlfriend around, even though they don't do great ratings wise, since they help create critical buzz for a network that's generally known as the pretty white people with problems network.

That doesn't mean they can't order some pilots for a summer series, then work them them into the schedule later in the year if another show like Reign starts lagging behind in the ratings.

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

Wheat Loaf posted:

How do writers' rooms work in TV dramas that have them? How are they organised? Do individual writers pitch stories which everyone works on. Do they all get together to thrash out what they want to do, then assign writers to particular episodes and send them off to write them? What's the process, generally? I've tried looking it up, but all I get on Google is the BBC Writersroom contest.

As others have said, it varies wildly depending on the show. You might want to check out 6 Days to Air, which is a behind the scenes documentary about how an episode of South Park gets made, with a large focus on the writer's room.

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

Sober posted:

Isn't South Park on the very very very extreme? Like the dudes literally put the episode together the day it's supposed to air? Sounds interesting either way.

Yeah, it's an extreme edge case, but 6 Days to Air is one of the few cases where we can see how the sausage is made. And the South Park guys don't just fart them out, they have a fairly brutal schedule trying to get them to Viacom in time for the next episode.

thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 10:36 on Mar 30, 2016

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

corn in the bible posted:

the persistence of vision that makes 24fps look good in a theater doesn't really work on a tv screen and low fps stuff will look jerky. smoothed out like that, well, it does not look jerky...

Most films are actually made with those technical limitations in mind. Every time I visit a friend or relative and watching something with frame interpolation turned on, it takes me about 30 seconds to notice, then I politely ask for the TV remote so I can turn that option off.

It gets into uncanny valley territory. It looks almost normal, but my brain instantly triggers it as being wrong.

It took me a while to figure out why people showing off their 60" flatscreens were showing off movies that looked worse than they did on my old CRT TV.

thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 11:24 on Mar 31, 2016

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

Gonz posted:

Here's that excellent porn star bit from this week's Not Safe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojIaxxtWPjI

Is that really the best the show has?

I mean, if you're going to have porn stars saying silly things, you should maybe have pornstars saying sillier things than what is standard in porn.

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

muscles like this? posted:

Vernon Chatman (of Wonder Showzen/Xavier: Renegade Angel/The Heart, She Holler) did a thing where he sent in a bunch of weird scripts to one of those websites that custom makes fetish porn.

The last time we sent a goons out for fetish porn, we ended up with swap.avi aka 'Two Girls, one Cup'.

I think we would all like to avoid that.

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

muscles like this? posted:

Kind of funny how this week's episode of The 100 had a scene that they filmed but someone realized at the last second that they couldn't actually show it so the whole thing was awkwardly cut.

I didn't really see that as anything more than a violence discretionary cut. It was a bit awkward, I agree, but it wasn't like anybody watching that scene and the reaction to it didn't know what was happening. Everybody knew she was pulling 8 heads out of a dufflebag. We didn't need to see it to know what has happening.

thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 08:22 on Apr 3, 2016

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

muscles like this? posted:

Shadow isn't the characters real first name.


Yep, and the name of the guy he went to jail with was named Low Key. Let's not pretend that American Gods didn't have some really ridiculous names.

thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 09:40 on Apr 7, 2016

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

Tornhelm posted:

Two if you count Nathalie Emmanuel.

Three if you count Michelle Fairley, aka Caitlyn Stark, since she also played Nathan's mom on Misfits.

smg77 posted:

Sorry but Major Lilywhite will always be the worst character name from that show.

The show creators have admitted that they based the name on Major Applewhite, a former QB for the Texas Longhorns.

So while the name is kind of silly, it's only two syllables different from the name of a real guy who was up for Heisman trophy at one point.

thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 12:23 on Apr 8, 2016

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

Aphrodite posted:

iZombie constantly has characters talking about Liv's friend being a supermodel, and it's super weird.

It really only became an issue for like one episode when Liv ate rear end in a top hat relationship advisor brains that said that Peyton was too good for Ravi. Since Peyton is an attractive woman who gets hit on a lot by rich, successful men.

Ravi basically said gently caress you very much for your advice, and Peyton and Ravi have gone on to become a cute couple, and Peyton is usually the one dragging Ravi off to bed.

thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Apr 14, 2016

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

oshuaj posted:

I really enjoyed Kimmy Schmidt S2, maybe more than S1. Jeff Goldblum was a special surprise.

Finished up S2 of Kimmy Schmidt earlier tonight, and I thought it was much better than S1. Even the low points weren't anywhere near as bad as the bad parts from S1, like the OJ stuff, and Kimmy's dad. And the jokes seemed a bit funnier. I don't remember laughing as hard during S1 as I did at some of the better jokes in S2. (I giggle just thinking about Mike's grandma, and would love to have a copy of Now That Sounds Like Music.)

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

Xoidanor posted:

I would buy that argument if Daredevil's superpower wasn't being blind. No one held a gun to the writers head here, 2/3 of this season was about organized crime and so was the first season and those are antagonists that makes sense for a blind dude who's just really good at fighting. He's not a a literal god of Norwegian mythology, he does not need supernatural threats. Going more comic book was a horrible creative decision.

At that point you might as well start arguing wondering why the world's greatest detective, and one of the world's best hand to hand to hand fighters, is constantly fighting a guy a in a clown suit. Batman fights the Joker, Superman fights Lex Luthor, Spiderman fights the Green Goblin, and Daredevil fights ninjas. That's just how it goes.

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

Snak posted:

I don't think there's a single relationship that won't end with one or both parties dying, regardless of sexual orientation.

Monty's the only surviving main character of the original 100 who hasn't had an SO get killed off yet. And right now he's dating an extra who has been on the show since the beginning, she just didn't have any speaking parts.

So, he's basically dating O'Brien from Star Trek. I'm sure that this will have a happy ending.

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

Mu Zeta posted:

Everything about it sounds amazing.

So 2 seasons tops, right?

It's just a miniseries.

Even the sequel book is more of a spiritual successor, with pretty much none of the same cast of characters involved, outside of the occasional cameo.

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

blue squares posted:

it's also pretty clear that Shadow is the dumbest protagonist name possible

Nope, I'm pretty sure Hiro Protagonist still holds the heavyweight belt for dumbest protagonist name possible. OTOH, that one works in the ridiculously over the top setting of Snowcrash, where your pizza will be delivered in 30 minutes or less, or they execute the delivery driver.

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

blue squares posted:

Hiro Protagonist is funny and tongue in cheek. Shadow is something a 13 year old would come up with as a name for their totally badass character

Except Shadow is actually closer to an Arthur Dent type character in the book. He's just just an ex-con happy to take a job with a steady paycheck after getting out of prison.

All the crazy god stuff was a big surprise for him.

thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 11:35 on Jun 17, 2016

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

MacheteZombie posted:

Interesting. I thought it was a beloved thing by fringe fans. It's certainly not the best season, but it's miles ahead of most finale seasons, imo. I liked Walter's ending a lot.

The problem is that Fringe ended on a high note at the end of S4, since most of the big story threads were wrapped up. So S5 feels more like "Oh, poo poo, we got renewed, we really weren't expecting that, that's why we resolved the plot back in S4 finale. OK, so now here's a story about those observers."

It's not horrible, it's just there.

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

Snak posted:

I still don't understand how his car was in neutral. Like, if his car was in a steep driveway, and surely it would start rolling right away when it was put in neutral and there wouldn't be time to get out and get in front/behind it...

Regardless, it's real sad. He was a talented actor and seemed like a really nice guy.

Honestly, this whole story is kind of weird. I mean I've heard of people getting killed while working on their cars because of a jack slipping, and while that's always a horrible tragedy, it at least makes sense.

So he got out out of his car, and left it in neutral, and it didn't just roll down the hill. Instead, he left his car in neutral, without it going anywhere, and he walked down the hill to check his mail, and then suddenly car his car rolled down the hill, and crushed him to death. That seems like a thing that happens in Final Destination movies or Hitman games, that's not not a normal cause of death.

Then again, it's probably best I don't dwell on it before I start getting obsessed about deadly fires in Waterparks.

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

Metropolis posted:

I wanna watch something new but don't want to make a big time investment. What are some good miniseries/really short, complete shows I have missed? I liked Band of Brothers, both seasons of Fargo, the first season of True Detective, The Shadow Line, and I thought Sense8 was pretty alright.

A little bit late, but you might want to check out Top of of the Lake. It's a pretty good mini-series that might make you want to re-think whatever vacation plans you made in your head from watching Peter Jackson adapting Tolkien. There are some actual people living in New Zealand, and they tend more towards selling drugs than living in Bag End.

Snak posted:

And also half the time it only "looks weird" because you have a mental picture of what that person is "supposed to" look like and the fact that they look different makes you think they look weird.

Sometimes, too much plastic surgery just makes people look weird. A couple of facelifts and botox treatments don't make old women look younger. It just makes old women look like they've had work done by The Joker. Where they have to hold rictus grins, because they don't have an option to frown.

There is definitely an uncanny valley effect going on with too much plastic surgery.

That said, I've known a few women that have got a chin or tummy tuck without anybody really noticing.

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thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

MiddleOne posted:

I'm still not entirely sure why no one in this forum watches Empire but me.

There's an easy explanation for that one, we're all white people

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