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Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Josh Lyman posted:

If Asscreed is good, it could supplant Mortal Kombat as the best video game adaptation.

If any video game adaptation was good, it could supplant Mortal Kombat as the best video game adaptation.

DrVenkman posted:

Both FANTASTIC FOUR and TOMORROWLAND did a lot better worldwide than what I thought they did.

Worldwide is a big place even though the US market is still the biggest single group of ticket buyers (China may catch up next year, but as pointed out at the end of the last thread, the financial numbers for movies in China are pretty much a complete fabrication). The thing to remember about worldwide grosses is that the studios get a fraction of a fraction of the gross in those other nations due to the various cuts taken by different organizations.

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Nov 27, 2009



Stayne Falls posted:

Hadn't even heard of this movie till now, really want this question answered. (I am bad at the Google.)

My overwhelming hatred of that book influenced the studio psychically and made them cancel it.

Or it's just a massive turd and they'll dump it out eventually (probably September since it's not on the January schedule).

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Alhazred posted:

Remember that the Lord of the Rings trilogy actually lost money because Hollywood accounting makes no sense at all.

That's not what was being talked about. Movies all "lose" money because studios set up a corporation for each separate film, feed money into it, and then that corporation loses money while the studio reaps all the cash. That's Hollywood accounting.

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Nov 27, 2009



computer parts posted:

There's nothing about a movie's finances that's known to the public. For example, that "1/3 of box office revenue = actual revenue" statistic above is the first time I've ever heard that number come up, and this discussion has been had many many times before.

Three times the production budget to be successful (not simply profitable) is a pretty common bit of shorthand.

Here's the thing: there's a fuckton of variables involved and every movie is contracted separately. The cut of the ticket prices, the affect of the drop off, how the marketing budget is handled, how much of a cut each of the multiple layers of distribution get, and that's just getting started. But these factors also not wildly all over the place; they follow some general patterns. So people have made some simple rules of thumb that are helpful for giving someone with an external view a general idea of how things turned out. Accurate? Hell no. But it's worlds better than looking at the total gross, comparing it to the production budget, and going, "That movie made a ton of money!"

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Tars Tarkas posted:

Besides all that, the entire accounting is purposefully a gigantic mess, and studios are constantly being sued, and constantly settling lawsuits so they don't have to open their books. Next time some hackers go after a studio's email, maybe they should take out their Quickbooks instead

I've heard some people think that their accounting practices will fall apart if someone manages to get them into court someplace other than California.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009




People suing studios for "stealing" their generic, obvious, and simple ideas is always funny. Doing it with something that you actually stole is hilarious.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009




Supa Bastard!



Young Freud posted:

If they're employing quadrotors in porn, then it's likely a lot of people are using them for aerial or crane shots nowadays, especially since they're cheap enough for independent filmmakers now.

I've heard that drone use for filmmaking has actually become a navigational hazard in LA.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



SomeJazzyRat posted:

Unless August has become the new February dumping ground, I would assume the changes in months might be due to a combination of the film needing a bit more time, and the studio suddenly gaining faith to release it in a busy time.

Unless it's last week of August, then ouch.

Early August gets the summer overflow. Late August is the beginning of the dump.

My suspicion on Ben Hur is that it's more of a sign that the film just isn't finished and they're going to do some reshoots.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Tars Tarkas posted:

So Kermit better help defeat Thanos in 2019.

If they take down Thanos by getting help from heroes throughout the multiverse and characters from everything that Disney owns appear to dog pile on him, I will be be there opening night.

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Nov 27, 2009



Random Stranger posted:

If they take down Thanos by getting help from heroes throughout the multiverse and characters from everything that Disney owns appear to dog pile on him, I will be be there opening night.

Called it. Guess I better preorder my tickets now:

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/646263-how-many-characters-will-appear-in-avengers-infinity-war

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009




It's like, I can appreciate that someone wants to document some interesting bits of commercial design that can go overlooked, but at some point they crossed the weird hobby event horizon into crazy town.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



:siren: The Razzie nominations are out! :siren:

And everyone shrugs and moves on.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Uncle Boogeyman posted:

for some reason, despite the fact that everyone in this forum and particularly this thread is totally okay making GBS threads on bad movies, every year when the Razzies do it it's suddenly Not Okay.

The problem is that the Razzies are pretty much the easiest targets gone after in the laziest way.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



computer parts posted:

Now Alan Rickman is dead? Also of cancer?

At this pace I've determined that every famous British person will be dead by July.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Your Gay Uncle posted:

Why does everyone just start raping and murdering during the Purge? I'd hole myself up in a secure spot and do a shitload of insider trading and stock manipulation and get filthy rich.

You've got like twelve hours and the markets aren't open. So much for your brilliant plan. It's more efficient to rent a dump truck at a time where you have to return it right after the purge, then steal it since you already have the keys, and drive it through the wall of a bank.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Skwirl posted:

Probably, I also think the reason no one cares is because no one knows why they should care. At least with the "9-11 was an inside job" nut jobs you know why it'd be a big deal if it was true, I'm still not sure what Republicans think the Obama administration did that was so wrong.

I think (and this could just be my own reasonable interpretation of batshit insane ideas) that they claim to think that the administration should have done more to prevent the attack. "Claim to think" since obviously it's pretty much just been an excuse to talk poo poo because something bad happened on Obama's watch.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Hostile V posted:

Clone Emily Blunt a bunch of times and make an action movie where she plays the leader, the rear end-kicker, the wise-cracker, the quiet, intense one and the one who is tempted to go rogue and betray the others.

Blunt Force.

Only if they team up to stop an army of evil Emily Blunt clones.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Snowglobe of Doom posted:

At this point I'm assuming it was released on a dare or someone lost a bet or something.

It was probably a contractual release, actually. Some producer had something in the contract where they had to release the movie theatrically on a certain number of screens.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



DrVenkman posted:

Gallo. And then felt bad about it.

But Ebert did revise his position on THE BROWN BUNNY (The screening he attended was a rough cut) and talked about how important editing can be in making a movie.

Saying it was a rough cut is a bit disingenuous. Ebert reviewed the film screened at Cannes and after the extremely negative response Gallo went back and recut the film.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Tars Tarkas posted:

Asylum has moved to making animated mockbusters along with live-action mockbusters. This makes them equivalent to that awful Brazilian studio, so they got that going for them now.






http://variety.com/2016/film/news/the-asylum-animation-division-sharknado-1201684640/

You'd think they'd just buy some terrible animated kids movie from overseas and dube it rather than make their own.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



MonsieurChoc posted:

It did leave a big ark... in other countries.

Like these Palestinians protesting disguised as Navis and poo poo.

That was six years ago; where are they now? All of that excitement seems to have dried up as fast as it appeared. It could happen again, but the fact that the general public around the world seems to have stopped caring about Avatar about six months after it came out makes people go, "I don't think that's happening again."

It's the same thing that makes people suspect that Through the Looking Glass is going to fall flat.

Not that it should stop film execs in this case. It may be dubious that lightning could strike again, but if I was running a studio I'd be putting up lightning rods.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Snowman_McK posted:

It also stood out as being a dark, cyberpunk film that wasn't terrible. It was a strange fusion film that, whatever you think of it, leaves a distinct impression.

I just started taking a film course for my arts requirement and the professor claims that The Matrix was successful because it posited a world where technology took over and thus resonated with people's fears. I did not get a chance to point out the fact that "technology taking over" is the single most common theme in pop scifi, that there were multiple other scifi movies with the exact same themes as The Matrix released within two months of it that bombed, or that the success probably had more to do with incorporating a fresh visual style borrowed from Hong Kong cinema into the action genre that had been stalled out for a decade.

I've seen every single film we're watching this semester, I'm very familiar with more than half of them, and so far the professor has handed us the most staid, shallow possible interpretations of things while presenting them as concepts that would blow our minds. This is going to be a long semester.

Could be worse, though. I've seen the other film professor walking around campus wearing a beret (not a joke).

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Rageaholic Monkey posted:

Marlon Wayans was on Fallon the other night, and when Fallon asked him what the premise of the movie was, he straight up said they took the characters from the original and changed them because that's not how black people would've done things.

White dominatrixes are like this. :whip: Black dominatrixes are like this. :nyd:

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



The Saddest Rhino posted:

since the Disney furry movie has porn before it releases, would it have the ultimate cultural impact?

No, since by default everything has porn. That's just a sign of how marketing is included in that.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Tars Tarkas posted:

Anyone see The Boy and was it as hilarious as the trailer?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1U21VBSbSs

Would it really be too much trouble for the old couple to go, "Look, we know how crazy this is. We've been taking care of this evil murder doll for thirty years and need a vacation. The last time we tried to take a weekend off there were four dead hookers in the foyer waiting for us when we got home. So just follow this list of mildly inconvenient instructions, we'll lay on the beach in Spain, and nobody will get their soul devoured by the devil. Tootles. Oh, and there's some Oreos in the cupboard that you can help yourself to."

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



shadowvine118 posted:

I saw it. The twist is dumb and makes no sense. Basically, the old couple had a kid who was a sociopath or something. He ended killing a girl on his birthday, and getting caught in a fire. So to cover up that he did it, they fake his death and build an elaborate system of tunnels in their house for him to live in. They get a doll that looks like him and pretend it's his spirit or something. 20 years later they decide to leave and kill themselves, so they look for some woman to take care of him, and he goes around pretending to be a ghost.

That's almost exactly the plot twist I suspected the film might have even before they showed the doll. Evil doll is also a cliche, but at least playing it straight means that there isn't a terrible twist.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Some guys just have a good movie or two in them and then run things down. And some of them can just manage a production well even though they're not artistically talented and so they keep getting work. I suspect that Copala combined those two; he had a few great movies in him and then afterward he was able to manage a film well so people turned to him for pick up jobs (Supernova definitely sounds like a situation like that). John Frankenheimer is another director like that; note how he was brought in to try to save Island of Dr. Moreau.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Tars Tarkas posted:

Finally a way for bad film critics to write dumb thinkpieces that objectively rate if movies are better or worse than watching paint dry: http://www.bbfc.co.uk/releases/paint-drying-2016

I find it funnier that they submitted it for classification. Which means those board members had to sit there and watch paint dry for over ten hours.

If it was me, I'd throw in a sex scene at seven hours and twenty minutes just so I'd have to cut it out and then they'd have to watch the whole thing all over again.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Cacator posted:

Red Cliff was fun but in no universe is it superior to Hard Boiled.

Fifteen years on and I'm still pissed about someone stealing my Criterion Hard Boiled DVD.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



A Buttery Pastry posted:

The Birth of a Nation is funnily enough the title of both a movie that celebrates the KKK, and of a movie that celebrates a slave revolt. Clearly the creator of the latter is attempting to erase the former from public memory.

I don't think he's trying to erase it, since the only people who know Birth of a Nation are film nerds and they're still going to know. It's more of a talking point to use the name of an infamously racist movie that happens to also be the first major work of cinema.

I've always thought that Nat Turner would be a great subject for a movie so I'm looking forward to seeing this.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



TetsuoTW posted:

I can understand a writer being concerned about someone making a derivative work based on their writing doing something weird with the characters.

It's a problem when the writer doesn't understand a thing about the concept of adaptation and because their work was so popular that they actually got a lot of power in the film.

EL James is as if one of the really terrible comic book nerds somehow got some control in the production of a Superman movie.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



turtlecrunch posted:

Woo Superbowl spots...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S37sBYwlULs

Thanks for the dialogue.
e: If this is what gets a Superbowl spot I guess we can look forward to Warcraft spot too.

I know this phrase gets thrown around a lot, but Gods of Egypt really does look like a video game. It's got all the hallmarks of the terrible direction you see in video game cutscenes, though of course that's only judging it's appearance from trailers.

I'm kind of hoping it'll be a crazy lovely movie that's entertainly awful instead of a boring lovely movie...

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



GrandpaPants posted:

Should have just gotten Frank Welker to voice everything and everyone.

It's going to be a sad day when Frank Welker dies and every single director in Hollywood realizes they have no one to put animal noises in their movie.

muscles like this? posted:

They probably were stuck giving it some kind of subtitle to distinguish it from the Disney one.

And yet they didn't go with Jungle Book: The Ghost Dimension.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



muscles like this? posted:

Universal reportedly wants Johnny Depp for its Invisible Man part of their shared Universal Monsters universe.

Of course the Invisible Man will be mostly visible to take advantage of having a big star in the role.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009




I would fall to the ground sobbing, "Why!? Why?!" over and over again, but I already know the answer to that.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



J.A.B.C. posted:

She-Hulk is also good and deserves more recognition.

She-Hulk really needs a Harvey Birdman style series, though I think it would be even funnier if it was live action instead of a cartoon.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



MechanicalTomPetty posted:

Holy poo poo seriously? I thought they learned something after QoS but I guess not.

Is it just going to be a thing now that every odd(-numbered?) Bond film has to have a rushed production?

It seems like every other Bond film going back decades has had gigantic behind the scenes problems.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009




I am genuinely surprised that Valve did not protect the Half-Life trademark from film usage.

Then again, considering this is from "Epic Pictures Group" rather than a proper studio it may be a situation where someone just thought they could sneak a trademark violation by. Edit: Another option occurred to me, they may be stupid enough to think that the publicity they'll get from having a fuss made and changing the title is better promotion than they could do on their own.

The obligatory joke: "We'll get a Half-Life 3 from this sooner than the games. :v:"

Random Stranger fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Feb 18, 2016

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Corek posted:

Also half-life is a normal scientific term.

I dream of the day that whenever a discussion of trademarks comes up online I will no longer have to point out the hundreds of everyday companies and products whose name is a common English word that is also trademarked in that context.

Perhaps after that day comes, I won't have to explain to people that trademark and copyright aren't the same thing again... :allears:

Sir Kodiak posted:

Valve's Half-Life trademark is for "computer game software and instruction manuals sold therewith." Might be impractical for them to get broader trademark ownership when it's a preexisting term.

Weird. I would have thought they'd try to shop it around as a movie in which case they'd have no trouble getting the broader trademark. But it sounds like Epic Films has their ducks in a row on this one.

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Nov 27, 2009



FishBulb posted:

A company that produced a lot of genre films, and stuff in the 80s

The important thing about them is that they were the result of Roger Corman's evil Israeli clone trying to make big movies. Any child of the 80's would be well aware of their output (though not necessarily connect the name). As mentioned earlier, there's a great documentary on Netflix at the moment called Electric Boogaloo all about the studio's rise and fall.


Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

Does that mean at some point in the 2020's someone will bring Full Moon Cinemas back into the mainstream with a full range of horror movies? They can be whatever the 2020 equivalent of direct to VHS is, maybe beamed directly into your brain whether you want it or not.

The streaming services have resulted in a lot of small studios making that kind of stuff. Someone just needs to produce a popular documentary about Full Moon to make someone snatch up the name again. :v:

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