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Sigma posted:So what happened to Tom Phillips? Is he ok? He entered a cocoon and emerged as Mauro Renallo
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Jesus how do they gently caress up the booking for the Rumble. It's the easiest match in the world to book.
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Sigma posted:So what happened to Tom Phillips? Is he ok? tom phillips stood in his interview stance for too long and his legs are stuck that way he needs surgery
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NickRoweFillea posted:So it's the 1992 rumble stip?
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Sigma posted:Brock wins the Rumble for the title, then Roman goes over at Mania clean as a sheet. down
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GrimGypsy posted:Right, it wasn't an extremely obvious 'THIS is the guy you'll cheer for, dammit!" situation Because he was a heel
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Luigi Thirty posted:So what's Shinsuke's stupid NXT name and ORIENT.MID theme going to be? Just one long loop of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap_NkPCkl4c For both his name and music
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Jan 5, 2016 06:20
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Same. Brock/Roman was a top 5 Maina ME and I'd love to see a rematch without Rollins involved (that finish looks so bad in retrospect)
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GrimGypsy posted:Right, it wasn't an extremely obvious 'THIS is the guy you'll cheer for, dammit!" situation, and the fans were already red hot for him by the time he was in the main event. He spent 5 minutes beating up a man with broken ribs and who didn't get a lick of offense because he was writhing in pain on a mat.
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Liquid Communism posted:Jesus how do they gently caress up the booking for the Rumble. Correction: it's the hardest match to book. It's the easiest match to gently caress up.
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Jan 5, 2016 06:24
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Kinda hosed up if you think that a heel beating up the valiant babyface is a situation the heel should ever be cheered in, tbh.
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ayn rand hand job posted:Kinda hosed up if you think that a heel beating up the valiant babyface is a situation the heel should ever be cheered in, tbh. What? He's right, Vince didn't want us to cheer Austin so it was organic
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Jetfire posted:Correction: it's the hardest match to book. It's the easiest match to gently caress up. yea in what world is the rumble easy to book. You have to manage both the 'stars' and the funny guys/veterans, you have to make sure the winner looks tough without making it not exciting, and no matter what you pick there's gonna be someone really pissed you didn't pick some random rear end in a top hat who's had like two matches
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Just one long loop of A marked improvement to his current theme.
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Ah yes, valiant babyface Jake Roberts, whom the company was surely ready to hitch their wagon to in the late '90s. Austin got over organically, over time, and the crowd was ready and willing to accept him as the top face by the time his inevitable turn came. Roman is beginning to get over now in the void of other top stars, but only after being slammed in our faces nonstop for a year or so.
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I hope Owens wins the Rumble because then my crazy prediction of Owens vs Reigns as the Mania Main Event will be right.
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Are they putting Reigns over the entire roster now? Hahahahaha
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We don't know that and you don't know that, but if it truly makes you so happy to imagine so, knock yourself out.
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I am free from the curse of watching WWE so really I just want them to take the funniest option.
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Chromatic posted:Are they putting Reigns over the entire roster now? Hahahahaha
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Alain Post posted:Same. Brock/Roman was a top 5 Maina ME and I'd love to see a rematch without Rollins involved (that finish looks so bad in retrospect) rollins reign may not have been great but it was better than giving roman the belt before he was actually hot
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:rollins reign may not have been great but it was better than giving roman the belt before he was actually hot I think the long heel reign that nobody was interested in was the biggest reason TV business was so bad. Plus it turns out that Seth wasn't good in that role anyway though it's not like we knew that at the time.
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GrimGypsy posted:Ah yes, valiant babyface Jake Roberts, whom the company was surely ready to hitch their wagon to in the late '90s. Austin got over organically, over time, and the crowd was ready and willing to accept him as the top face by the time his inevitable turn came. Roman is beginning to get over now in the void of other top stars, but only after being slammed in our faces nonstop for a year or so. The reality is that none of this is worth arguing over. WWE has made it completely clear that everything is The Roman Reigns Show for the foreseeable future and the fans can take it or leave it, they don't give a poo poo, it's just how it is. No one should be surprised at this point. gently caress, the return of John Cena last week was largely used to put over Roman, in a match that didn't even involve Reigns. Vince came out of TV retirement to put him over. Roman being the New Guy, consequences be damned, has been blatantly told to us for like a year now and as much as large chunks of the audience (including me) may have hoped they'd change course, it is set in absolute loving stone and has been ever since Vince decided Roman was pretty. The situation is just that if you aren't down with having this untalented lump be the dominant focus of the show, it's time to stop watching RAW and check out something else. There's plenty of good wrestling out there, check out ROH, keep watching NXT, watch NJPW until WWE raids it into the ground, get your hands on some PWG, check out LU when it comes back at the end of the month. Read WWE recaps in case some amazing thing happens and maybe check out the Rumble because that's usually fun regardless of how poo poo the ending may be, but there's a point where it's time to figure out that the weekly product may just not be for you and that isn't going to change. And I don't mean just because of Reigns, but look at all the other lovely lazy booking, the chronic misuse of talent, that everything still ends up being about the McMahons in some form or another...it goes on and on. I mean, judging from the fierce defense of the booking by some people in this thread, there are still some folks who are fully enjoying the product, but for me it's gotten to the point where it's not even entertaining enough to have fun heckling it and there's really no use fighting against it. Chris James 2 posted:
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Oh did Roman become a bad wrestler again, I had no idea he's had a lot of really good matches in a row
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Alain Post posted:I think the long heel reign that nobody was interested in was the biggest reason TV business was so bad. Plus it turns out that Seth wasn't good in that role anyway though it's not like we knew that at the time. Rollins was like, the only decent thing in this company for a year straight and it's a shame WWE completely forgot how to book not-terrible television during that time period and that had nothing to do with Rollins himself.
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Alain Post posted:I think the long heel reign that nobody was interested in was the biggest reason TV business was so bad. it was the booking yo, rollins was fine before it and cut off at the knees because they couldn't decide whether he should be a strong heel who also cheats or a coward so they switched back and forth. 2015 did nobody any favors. ratings didnt get really bad until he was feuding with kane and getting chumped out on a weekly basis
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Alain Post posted:I think the long heel reign that nobody was interested in was the biggest reason TV business was so bad. Plus it turns out that Seth wasn't good in that role anyway though it's not like we knew that at the time. Everyone wanted a long heel reign, they just wanted a heel that wasn't made to look like an idiot, a chump and inferior to every one of his opponents month after month so when he was finally beaten for the belt it would mean something. Rollins wasn't the best at WRESTLING like a heel, but he was kneecapped by his booking.
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:it was the booking yo, rollins was fine before it and cut off at the knees because they couldn't decide whether he should be a strong heel who also cheats or a coward so they switched back and forth. 2015 did nobody any favors i don't know, man, some of that was the booking (it's ridiculous that Rollins' strong babyface opponents were like, Sting and loving Kane), but a lot of that "can't decide what kind of heel he should be" would have been fixed if his matches were laid out better, and a lot of that is on him imo. Like the one time he faced a strong babyface in Cena in a PPV main event, and what does he do? He wrestles babyface and Cena wrestles heel. Like what the hell.
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It's kind of funny how, for as bad as Seth looked for a lot of his main event heel run, Sheamus' run has been so much worse.
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Luigi Thirty posted:So what's Shinsuke's stupid NXT name and ORIENT.MID theme going to be? Nakasuke Shinmura, Emperor of Powerful Form and his theme is BABYMETAL
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Rhonne posted:It's kind of funny how, for as bad as Seth looked for a lot of his main event heel run, Sheamus' run has been so much worse. At least Sheamus successfully put someone over.
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Sigma posted:Brock wins the Rumble for the title, then Roman goes over at Mania clean as a sheet. Roman Reigns is gonna beat Flair's number of title reigns by next Mania at this rate
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:it was the booking yo, rollins was fine before it and cut off at the knees because they couldn't decide whether he should be a strong heel who also cheats or a coward so they switched back and forth. 2015 did nobody any favors. ratings didnt get really bad until he was feuding with kane and getting chumped out on a weekly basis The best part of all that was that month long Kane feud where Seth got his rear end kicked week after week, then won cleanly at the PPV. It would have made perfect sense...if the heel/face roles were reversed.
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Guys I'm gonna say something you all are gonna hate. I don't particularly care for Shinsuke Nakamura. He's a good wrestler and all that but I don't get a "stylish" vibe off him so much as a "sleezy weirdo" vibe
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I don't see Haitch passing up the opportunity to 1. win a third Rumble and 2. be the only other guy besides Flair to win the title in the Rumble. Or, for that matter, another Mania main event.
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Shinsuke Saotome, representing the Saotome School of Anything-Goes Martial Arts.
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Alain Post posted:Like the one time he faced a strong babyface in Cena in a PPV main event, and what does he do? He wrestles babyface and Cena wrestles heel. Like what the hell. Imagine the Brooklyn crowd if Cena had done his usual type of act. For what they had at Summerslam this was probably the better option and I'm sure Cena was part of the reason why they did the match like that.
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