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Shibawanko posted:for me, just all the natural parks and remote areas. this might not be particularly spectacular if you're from alaska or canada or something but to me it's probably one of the most beautiful places ive ever visited, especially shiretoko and that whole area. there's also more obscure places like rishiri and rebun islands and i liked abashiri prison museum. i like hokkaido because it feels pretty wild and remote, more like siberia than like japan peanut posted:There's a mountain in Aomori (Osore-san, Mt. Fear!!!). Hokkaido has huge volcanoes.
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Here are many jobs for computer touchers https://mixess.jp/s/y55/
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What's it like flying into Japan right now for people who are allowed to enter (Japanese nationals, residents etc.)? I looked on their Foreign Ministry website and it's saying there is a 14 day quarantine upon landing and that you cannot travel via public transport?
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Busy Bee posted:What's it like flying into Japan right now for people who are allowed to enter (Japanese nationals, residents etc.)? I looked on their Foreign Ministry website and it's saying there is a 14 day quarantine upon landing and that you cannot travel via public transport? You land, you have to take a test on-site, and wait for those results. I believe part of the wait is at Narita in those cardboard units. But then from there you’re not allowed to travel by public transit, so no train or bus. There are hotels nearby where you can also do the 14-day quarantine. Don’t think the government is covering that cost at all.
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Busy Bee posted:What's it like flying into Japan right now for people who are allowed to enter (Japanese nationals, residents etc.)? I looked on their Foreign Ministry website and it's saying there is a 14 day quarantine upon landing and that you cannot travel via public transport? Just FYI in case you missed it, but residents are still basically not allowed to enter unless they meet some special conditions.
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DiscoJ posted:Just FYI in case you missed it, but residents are still basically not allowed to enter unless they meet some special conditions. Any resident can get in starting in like 2 days from now as I recall
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harperdc posted:You land, you have to take a test on-site, and wait for those results. I believe part of the wait is at Narita in those cardboard units. But then from there you’re not allowed to travel by public transit, so no train or bus. There are hotels nearby where you can also do the 14-day quarantine. Don’t think the government is covering that cost at all. How long does the test take? So in theory one would have to take a taxi or be picked up to leave the airport if they want to quarantine at their home?
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harperdc posted:I believe part of the wait is at Narita in those cardboard units. There's homeless ppl at Narita now?
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Busy Bee posted:How long does the test take? So in theory one would have to take a taxi or be picked up to leave the airport if they want to quarantine at their home? idk exactly what test they're using but China had the same basic flow and it was like 5-6 hours for a result, this was in like late March tho so things might have sped up significantly.
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Stringent posted:There's homeless ppl at Narita now? News story from April and they were apparently still there in June when my BIL came back from the States. I’m sure they’re changed out regularly. I’m trying to remember how many tests there were - but I know he went Airport —> a hotel —> a second hotel where he stayed for 2 weeks.
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LimburgLimbo posted:Any resident can get in starting in like 2 days from now as I recall https://www.mofa.go.jp/ca/fna/page4e_001074.html has the details.
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Magna Kaser posted:idk exactly what test they're using but China had the same basic flow and it was like 5-6 hours for a result, this was in like late March tho so things might have sped up significantly. tests in Hawaii have results back in like 40 minutes or so, there may be ever faster out there somewhere else, idk The Great Autismo! fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Aug 3, 2020 |
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Mongoose posted:https://www.mofa.go.jp/ca/fna/page4e_001074.html has the details. - Applies to spouse, dependant, PR and long-term (work) visas - Applies to new entrants that qualify for those visa statuses - Applies to travelers who left Japan before the travel ban - Requires letter from JP consulate in foreign region - Requires negative covid test within 72 hours of flight In summary, casual re-entry is still not happening.
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mofa deez nutz
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Stringent posted:mofa deez nutz  And yeah that still doesn’t clearly extend things to those with all kinds of residence/work visas.
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Uh has Japan even considered me, the random tourist who wants to walk around Kyoto annoying the locals? It’s like they haven’t even taken my feelings into consideration.
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i reckon pretty much everyone in Kyoto that doesn't own an airbnb is over the moon about corona
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Stringent posted:i reckon pretty much everyone in Kyoto that doesn't own an airbnb is over the moon about corona Or a tourism business. But it’s a definite monkey-paw moment for all the locals that “didn’t like tourists.”
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harperdc posted:Or a tourism business. But it’s a definite monkey-paw moment for all the locals that “didn’t like tourists.” nah they're getting tons of business from the rest of japan
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Martytoof posted:Uh has Japan even considered me, the random tourist who wants to walk around Kyoto annoying the locals? It’s like they haven’t even taken my feelings into consideration. just watching this comment and thread through the lens of China LAN
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Just to be clear, in case it didn't come across, I was being super sarcastic. When I went last year the "over all these tourists" feeling was palpable  Still loved it though 
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Japanese locals are the biggest crybabies in Asia about tourism, no real surprises there.
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Shammypants posted:Japanese locals are the biggest crybabies in Asia about tourism, no real surprises there. Tourism in Japan has increased a truly ridiculous amount though. From 8.4mm in 2012 to 31.9mm in 2019; I believe actually nowhere in the world increased that much as a percentage and very few increased anywhere near that in absolute numbers. There has absolutely been more strain put on tourism infrastructure than just about anywhere else and it’s not surprising there’s some.
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LimburgLimbo posted:Tourism in Japan has increased a truly ridiculous amount though. From 8.4mm in 2012 to 31.9mm in 2019; I believe actually nowhere in the world increased that much as a percentage and very few increased anywhere near that in absolute numbers. There has absolutely been more strain put on tourism infrastructure than just about anywhere else and it’s not surprising there’s some. They’re lucky they are able to see the exponential growth in profits from tourism and percentage of GDP contribution that other countries aren’t or can’t get. If they don’t want to just complain about tourism then they should establish policies and cultural practices that encourage their population to grow instead of decline and harbor innovation and retain highly skilled workers. Support younger people and workers and families better. Maybe change their ludicrous anti-foreigner worker policies. A lot of people are coming to Tokyo sky tree or the one or two blocks of Kyoto that tourists might find especially interesting. Okay, what can those areas do right now organically to grow economically or practically without tourists? Don’t say they don’t want to or don’t need to because they do and because there are towns across Japan dying off every year due to attrition and lack of interest. What I am saying is simple, it’s that Japanese policies at every level are leading them to being a country dependent on increasing tourism, so they should stop complaining about those tourists propping then up when there is no other choice.
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I brought up the idea of my company letting me work out of one of our Japanese offices with my manager and he was open to the idea. So that's cool. He proposed having me go over to Japan for a couple months on a tourist visa and try working remotely with my current team to see if it actually works out for me and for the team (I'd have to work 5AM to 1PM local time to have any significant overlap with my team). So now it's just a waiting game for when the border opens up to foreign nationals.
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captkirk posted:So now it's just a waiting game for when the border opens up to foreign nationals. i'm afraid i have some bad news regarding that
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Shammypants posted:They’re lucky they are able to see the exponential growth in profits from tourism and percentage of GDP contribution that other countries aren’t or can’t get. If they don’t want to just complain about tourism then they should establish policies and cultural practices that encourage their population to grow instead of decline and harbor innovation and retain highly skilled workers. Support younger people and workers and families better. Maybe change their ludicrous anti-foreigner worker policies. drat, all this time we've been worrying about earthquakes and godzilla, but really it's this rear end in a top hat not being able to come to japan when he wants that spells the end of the country. 
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Stringent posted:drat, all this time we've been worrying about earthquakes and godzilla, but really it's this rear end in a top hat not being able to come to japan when he wants that spells the end of the country. Yea if it weren’t for tourists Japan would be in real trouble you’re right
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yeah, i don't know how japan is going to weather this instagrammers posting ramen pictures gap. truly harrowing times.
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Shammypants posted:They’re lucky they are able to see the exponential growth in profits from tourism and percentage of GDP contribution that other countries aren’t or can’t get. If they don’t want to just complain about tourism then they should establish policies and cultural practices that encourage their population to grow instead of decline and harbor innovation and retain highly skilled workers. Support younger people and workers and families better. Maybe change their ludicrous anti-foreigner worker policies. drat you’re both impressively stupid and misinformed; do yourself and everyone a favor and just stay in the US which apparently has fantastic policies and politicians.
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LimburgLimbo posted:drat you’re both impressively stupid and misinformed; do yourself and everyone a favor and just stay in the US which apparently has fantastic policies and politicians. nice semicolon
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LimburgLimbo posted:drat you’re both impressively stupid and misinformed; do yourself and everyone a favor and just stay in the US which apparently has fantastic policies and politicians. Go on. Make sure to talk about how the Japanese government doesn't care about local complaints of incivility or noise and plans to forge ahead with 60 million visitors by 2030 whether you think it's not important to the country or not.
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abenomics 3.0: ham faced goons in airbnbs subsisting on Family Mart and Mr. Donut
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Stringent posted:abenomics 3.0: ham faced goons in airbnbs subsisting on Family Mart and Mr. Donut mods, thread title plx
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Shammypants posted:Go on. Make sure to talk about how the Japanese government doesn't care about local complaints of incivility or noise and plans to forge ahead with 60 million visitors by 2030 whether you think it's not important to the country or not. Nah. Your entire argument is just a rehash of the typical bitter expat/business traveler bullshit about how locals should grovel to you more and very much not worth addressing in detail
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Stringent posted:abenomics 3.0: ham faced goons in airbnbs subsisting on Family Mart and Mr. Donut im a lawson man
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Stringent posted:mods, thread title plx It happened!
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Midjack posted:It happened! \o/
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Stringent posted:i'm afraid i have some bad news regarding that They're *probably* going to re-open to foreign nationals sometime in 2021.
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