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Do you know what I find really funny about the idea of the Nephandi being behind WWII and 9/11 is that if handled properly, which I assume it isn't, could actually be a col plot point. So going with the whole nihilism idea make it that they view living as suffering and so have dedicated themselves to putting humanity out of it's misery. So to do that they first need a tool capable of wiping out Humanity, and that is the atomic bomb. So they help start WWII but at most all they are doing is giving natural events a light push, and instead all their effort goes to developing nuclear weaponry and making sure that both the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. have them. So now the Cold War becomes a constant game of theirs to finally push in just the right place for the dominoes to fall and nuclear war to occur. Obviously that plan keeps on failing so eventually they push to break up the U.S.S.R. to create a power vacuum that would eventually lead to a new global crisis to take advantage off. By doing that the Nephandi benefit from not only having a clearer goal, but also become more interesting as instead of being evil for the sake of evil they instead view themselves as the people with the most noble intentions of stopping a dying animal from a prolonged and drawn out death.
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It seems kind of weird that the first real mention of the Protestant reformation is with Laurance.
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That makes it even more hilarious that the only French victories other England came from direct heavenly support.
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I would also like a continuation of the Superior series. It is proving to be quite interesting seeing the nuances of the major players of the setting.
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Mors Rattus posted:Sounds like Superiors is a hit! IMO the Princes don't get quite as good or nuanced a showing as the Archangels, but it's been a while since I read this stuff closely. In a weird way I actually kind of like that about him and in fact all of the Archangles covered so far. For all the pretenses they are as deeply flawed as the humans they are supposed to protect.
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I kind of like the idea that Kobal is just going through the motion now as the entire war has turned into a joke that is no longer funny any more. That could actually be a fun angle to play him, the comedian who has finally decided to end this war one way or another as the worst jokes are the ones that are dragged out for too long.
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Yeah, the peaceful version of Khalid is the only sane way to handle him. As in being scared by what the Crusades unleashed he has constantly struggled to help guide Islam away from the same type of dogma and faith that led to the corruption of the Crusades, but due to having all but cut off the other Archangels from interfering with Islam he has had to contend with a lot of infernal intention all by himself.
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What made me like Litheroy was his encounter with Andrealphus. Both the idea that he basically broke the Prince of Lust by pure curiosity and that Dominic upon hearing this encounter just started to laugh before warning him to be more careful next time.
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I feel that the whole wolf in sheep's clothing and visa versa could be quite good tools to be used once or twice to keep your party on their toes. As long as you give the party hints that the scenario will be more then meets the eye then it should be fine.
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Couldn't you still review it but instead take it from a designer perspective as in comment on why you made certain decisions and what systems you liked how they turned out and what you view as not quite meeting your original goal.
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Ratoslov posted:Yeah, I remember hearing about a 3,x game where the game master introduced a huge double-door made out of adamantine into a mid-level dungeon in order to minimize the players' ability to circumvent it via shenanigans. The players immediately absconded with the door, since it was more valuable than all the treasure in the rest of the dungeon combined by a factor of ten. That should have been the start of an epic quest as the monsters track the party down to get back their door.
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Man Whore posted:I can't tell if the soldier on the right is very concerned about the straw feminists nonchalantly walking towards him or is very unconcerned and just yelling things at people behind the camera. He looks like he is working in a fast food place and is yelling an order back into the kitchen.
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Count Chocula posted:This is like those gag comics of monsters playing Actuaries and Accountants. It's two paragraphs of how to act in a corporate setting, and as somebody who's just been exposed to that for the first time I can't tell if Angels working like that is sad or hilarious. If it's part of the satire it's brilliant: Angelic middle-managers! Heavenly KPIs! Dress codes for Vessels? It could be. Reading a lot of the content for the setting and it does really feel like the war between heaven and hell is a clash between two businesses
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Lynx Winters posted:As long as you don't include a sanity system of any sort, you're off to a good start. The concept of San could work if it is more like a stress meter. As in spend too long fighting off evil without having a chance to hang out with your friends or go watch a movie or whatever and you start to burn out.
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Alien Rope Burn posted:It wasn't so bad. There is something oddly human about that response.
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Kai Tave posted:There were only two human factions in VOR, actually. One was basically GI Joe USA with elite troops and sentry guns and stuff and the other were the Neo-Soviets comprised of every heartless ultra-communist Cold War stereotype you can think of mashed together...commissars executing deserters during human wave assaults comprised of poorly trained conscripts using lovely equipment, along with mutant monster shocktroops and heavy weapons teams using radioactive sludge-throwers. Everyone else was some kind of weird alien. My comment was about that even though it would be in every factions best interest to work together to try and escape, they are all too busy trying to kill everybody else.
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Young Freud posted:When you put it like this, I keep thinking that Beast is White Wolf's answer to Monsterhearts. Then it fails to get what makes Monsterhearts work.
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Maybe take the mother aspect of the monsters and add a paternal aspect to Hunters and it could become a metaphor for a disintegrating family and divorce. As in both parents try to play favorites in giving their children gifts but fail to grasp that these gifts and competition for attention are loving up the children that they claim to love.
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The joy of a F.A.T.A.L post is that everybody can unite in disgust at the unholy abomination of game. I actually remember trying to make a character for that game which was perhaps one of the most frustrating things I have ever tried to do.
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Nessus posted:The Italians are underutilized. Bellicose and warlike yet it would not even be too ahistorical for PCs, even low-powered PCs, to foil and defeat their armed forces. You mean that it would be very historical and accurate for the PCs to foil the Italian armed forces during WWII.
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Cythereal posted:My point was that there were many parts of the world during WW2 where "battlefield conditions" were goddamn everywhere and atrocities upon atrocities were common. Of course the concept of civilians still existed. There were the people you were trying to kill and/or do horrible things to who could not fight back.
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And how could we forget about the guard hive mind.
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That explains why the Gypsy splat never got redone, and also seems like inspiration for Beast.
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I have no direct sources but the idea of an entire band being used to tell everybody the time just sounds wrong. Especially because the issue then becomes how does anybody even remotely far away even hear them.
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Khorne until he was retconned was actually kind of interesting. Yes he was all about blood and skulls, but for them to have any meaning they had to come from strong foes. So in a weird way despite being part of Chaos, his warriors would actually kind of follow the rules of war regarding none combatants.
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Night10194 posted:In the End Times, 100%. That isn't even the worse part of the End Times.
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Night10194 posted:There were no good parts there. There are bad parts, horrible parts, and what on earth are they thinking parts.
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Kaza42 posted:This just seems like a strange reference to me. It's referring to the Ripley Scroll, right? It's about elemental symbolism and the philosopher stone, and contains the line "The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame", which is commonly seen as a reference to a stabilizing agent in an alchemical compound. It's just really weird to see Gangrel referencing a 15th century alchemical scroll, and it's not even really relevant? I think they might have been referencing Hellsing with that line.
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Night10194 posted:Rising is great because they actually let the translators translate properly and had actual writers, as opposed to whatever it is Kojima does to language. Wasn't Armstrong's speech so good that it was used in the Japanese version as well?
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Cythereal posted:Especially in the Greek myths, which are one of the go-to inspirations for "hero fighting monsters." Almost every Greek hero's story ends with "and then the hero pissed off someone powerful in a moment of hubris [a god more often than not] and died/was punished for all eternity." Or it was a big part of their story. Just look at Odysseus who in a moment of hubris ended up dooming his crew to die and himself to spend another ten years away from hell. Also going from Greek myths the closest you get to a hero sending others to go fight for him was Jason and that was because his crew was quite literally a dream team of heroes.
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Liquid Communism posted:Literally the only thing keeping 2e mages in check was that reality itself hated them. To be fair that does seem like a very good way to keep someone in check.
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Doresh posted:This adventure is less interactive than an overly long cutscene with Quick Time Events. Let that sink in for a moment. Done right that could actually be kind of cool. Give every player part of the mission brief then ask for them to plan out the mission in character.
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And don't forget to add multiple people shooting muskets. There is a certain practicality that the Empire takes to warfare that is always so appealing.
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LordAbaddon posted:See I always read the core joke of Chaos being that it might be a legit better alternative than the Imperium to drive home the Starship Troopers-esque fascism parody. I thought the joke was that in the setting the smartest thing to do was to kill yourself and get it over with.
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Doresh posted:Largest? That must've sprung from Matt Ward's fever dreams. Nobody has more dudes than the Ultramarines, especially not the most elite and elusive "Chapter". If push comes to shove they can call on a lot of the later founding chapters, but in terms of pure number of marines in a single chapter it is either the Black Templars or the Space Wolves. The Black Templars do this by a combination of being on a permanent crusade and making sure to never have too many of their chapter in one place. The Space Wolves just don't give a gently caress and are more then willing to gently caress with or gently caress up anyone who tries to call them out on this.
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SirPhoebos posted:I've been reading a bunch of Dominions LPs, and it got me wondering how to make an RPG in that setting that wasn't just a heartbreaker with an obscure license tie-in. It is easy. You just roleplay as a group much like Bogrus and his raiding party who are stuck in the middle of an apocalyptic war. As an added bonus you can have a player party which is made up of almost everything under the sun as a group of concerned citizens doing their part to stop the pretender gods from destroying everything.
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Halloween Jack posted:I didn't get into the T34 at all, despite its importance. That's another one of those forest-for-the-trees thing that the book misses by just putting lists of equipment. And the Germans only achieved that by taking basically this http://www.awkwardzombie.com/index.php?page=0&comic=010509 approach to weapon building.
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Davin Valkri posted:Eh...I'd put it more like "the war was won with Soviet rifles and tanks, brought to the front on US trucks and rolling stock." Remember that the supermajority of all military casualties occurred on the Russian front. That quote still has the Russians as able to put out a new tank at 1/10th of the time it would take the Germans.
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Is there even a point to the darkness or is it just some evil force that exists in service of plot?
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# ¿ Dec 5, 2023 11:48 |
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Including themselves.
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