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Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



omg chael crash posted:

God drat, that monocle was worth a LOT of money.

I just did the dungeon under the pawn guild for the first time and had to run away from a bunch of weird tentacles. I like playing the Strider but I don’t feel like I’m doing a whole lot of damage — any tips?

switch to assassin

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Octo1
May 7, 2009

Shear Modulus posted:

switch to assassin

Don't do this

To actually raise your damage get better weapons and upgrade them, and eventually switch to warrior and grind discipline levels to unlock the skill that gives +20% strength.

The game should give you a quest to decipher a text, which will lead you to a hill with a figure drawn on it. Go search at the figure's spear for some good daggers.

Octo1 fucked around with this message at 06:15 on Feb 18, 2020

omg chael crash
Jul 8, 2012

Macys paid for this. Noodle Boy and Bonby are bad at video games and even worse friends.


Why?!

Octo1
May 7, 2009

Assassins have higher strength growth per level, but it's ultimately very small compared to what you get from weapons/skills. Just play what you want to play.

omg chael crash
Jul 8, 2012

Macys paid for this. Noodle Boy and Bonby are bad at video games and even worse friends.


I actually bought some new daggers as soon as I got to the big city and upgraded them

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Damage reduction in this game works in absolute terms, so if your damage is too low you will get nowhere against certain enemies no matter how 'well' you play. In some cases, when it looks like you're doing no damage at all, the best strategy might legitimately be to come back later.

Here is the list of goon pawns, by the way:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lUyXgocroAVa6dR06-6dO3NgWH44tBa_zzvQrargbKg/edit#gid=0

Just noticed that I'm still the only one with PC deets lol

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Basically, play Assassin if you want to use Assassin's abilities, not for the base state increase. Assassin's abilities rock, though; my first playthrough was as mainly an Assassin and it's fun as hell.

timn
Mar 16, 2010
I'm biased, but switching to ranger might be an actual good idea if you like the idea of strider but it feels gimpy to you in combat. Ranger still has basically all of the good dagger abilities that strider has on top of really good exclusive bow abilities (10 fold arrow!!). Strider by comparison has a lot of extra utility stuff of questionable usefulness.

In other words, ranger ends up being more like a combat fundamentals focused version of the strider instead of the range focused class it's portrayed as. At least that was my experience with it.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

The main reason I enjoyed Ranger is because you get a fuckoff huge bow that sends people flying.

Really any class with daggers and a bow was the class for me. If Warrior just had 6 active abilities like God intended I'd love Warrior too.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....
One of the few non-nude mods on Nexus is a mod to give the Warrior 6 abilities.

GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011

timn posted:

Or play on hard mode and rake in the 1k gold bags that everything drops with absurd frequency. :smaug:

Hard mode also gives you way more XP which means it actually gets easier towards the end, right? I might do that when I replay the game
How's BBI in it?

mdct
Sep 2, 2011

Tingle tingle kooloo limpah.
These are my magic words.

Don't steal them.

BexGu posted:

One of the few non-nude mods on Nexus is a mod to give the Warrior 6 abilities.

They finally managed to figure this out? Dang, that took a few years, but nice.

winterwerefox
Apr 23, 2010

The next movie better not make me shave anything :(

Phlegmish posted:

Here is the list of goon pawns, by the way:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lUyXgocroAVa6dR06-6dO3NgWH44tBa_zzvQrargbKg/edit#gid=0

Just noticed that I'm still the only one with PC deets lol

Added Rose to the PC section, for those not on consoles.

ed: forgot an ed

winterwerefox fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Feb 18, 2020

timn
Mar 16, 2010

GrossMurpel posted:

Hard mode also gives you way more XP which means it actually gets easier towards the end, right? I might do that when I replay the game
How's BBI in it?

Yes to the more XP, especially if you also run with pawns at least 25 levels lower than you.

Difficulty wise it's all about how over leveled you are. Stacking the easily accessible damage reduction augments is a big help. They get a big boost in hard mode and are basically mandatory for a level 1 start to not get literally one shot by everything.

You'll also want to be cautious around certain things like trolls as they're a big difficulty spike relative to contemporary enemies and might surprise you. However with the extra XP you can eventually outpace the difficulty curve and kind of forget it's hard mode at all.

Do a level 1 hard mode start it's fun

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



winterwerefox posted:

Added Rose to the PC section, for those not on consoles.

ed: forgot an ed

:hfive:

Finally I'm no longer alone

omg chael crash
Jul 8, 2012

Macys paid for this. Noodle Boy and Bonby are bad at video games and even worse friends.


I might switch to Ranger just because sitting back and shooting dudes seems pretty fun and it’s mostly what I’m doing with my Strider anyway

K8.0
Feb 26, 2004

Her Majesty's 56th Regiment of Foot
What you should do is learn to play the game properly. Strider fuckin rules and whenever there's a big bad you should be climbing him and stabbing all up in his rear end.

Donkringel
Apr 22, 2008
Tooled up strider pawns are the absolute best in BBI. When I first started exploring I hired a twinked out pawn in full dragonforged gear not realizing what a boon that was. I got into a fight with a dragon that I was way underprepared for, then the pawn casually walks up, jumps, does a Sonic spindash impression and I'm hearing the victory music.

GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011

timn posted:

Yes to the more XP, especially if you also run with pawns at least 25 levels lower than you.

Difficulty wise it's all about how over leveled you are. Stacking the easily accessible damage reduction augments is a big help. They get a big boost in hard mode and are basically mandatory for a level 1 start to not get literally one shot by everything.

You'll also want to be cautious around certain things like trolls as they're a big difficulty spike relative to contemporary enemies and might surprise you. However with the extra XP you can eventually outpace the difficulty curve and kind of forget it's hard mode at all.

Do a level 1 hard mode start it's fun

Yes if I do replay it, it would not be NG+. So level 1 is exactly what I was asking about.
Also is there a completionist list of when to do which quests? I don't care about managing to get every escort mission right or whatever but it would be nice to actually manage to do anything at all in the Witchwood this time.

omg chael crash posted:

I might switch to Ranger just because sitting back and shooting dudes seems pretty fun and it’s mostly what I’m doing with my Strider anyway

Leaving aside the people saying you are playing Strider incorrectly (they are right :v:), yes you should absolutely definitely switch class whenever the gently caress you feel like it. Especially if you're like "wow I'm liking this playstyle", that's what the advanced classes are for.
The entire class system is about you switching whenever your heart desires and it's one of the most fun parts.

GrossMurpel fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Feb 19, 2020

K8.0
Feb 26, 2004

Her Majesty's 56th Regiment of Foot
Also the augments you can gain from other classes are incredibly powerful. It's a good idea to play every vocation to max rank to get a good feeling for what they all can do and unlock all the augments.

But Strider is the best and most fun.

timn
Mar 16, 2010

GrossMurpel posted:

Also is there a completionist list of when to do which quests?

I use this wiki page which is pretty clear cut and spoiler free as long as you don't go clicking into the main articles about each quest.

El Diablo Bob O
Sep 3, 2011

Hay nada mas,
Oh si' my way!
This game.

Back when PSN gave away Dark Arisen on PS3, I bounced off it pretty hard. "This isn't like Skyrim!" my stupid mind said and I put it down.

Years later I am now entering my pawn info for the PC and Switch versions on the Google doc. This is quite possibly one of my favorite games.

P.s.- Assassin 4 Lyfe

Oo Koo
Nov 19, 2012

omg chael crash posted:

Should I ever sell anything? I see things that say to store poo poo because I can use it for crafting maybe later, but is anything okay to sell?

The way I generally deal with inventory management is to just stuff everything in storage, and forget about them. Then occasionally if I feel like buying something I can't currently afford, I look through my mountain of junk and bulk sell everything that exceeds an arbitrarily chosen limit, usually I aim for 15-30 of every non weapon/armor/accessory item and 2 for equipment. (enough to equip both arisen and main pawn.) Everything else gets sold. The only exception are the powerful or general purpose consumables, those I keep all of.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

timn posted:

I'm biased, but switching to ranger might be an actual good idea if you like the idea of strider but it feels gimpy to you in combat. Ranger still has basically all of the good dagger abilities that strider has on top of really good exclusive bow abilities (10 fold arrow!!).

The Longbow is significantly less mobile though. If the bow is an assault rifle, the longbow is a heavy machinegun.

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

None of the other classes can set themselves on fire before jumping on the monster so you should play Magik Archer.

haunted bong
Jun 24, 2007


omg chael crash posted:

Should I ever sell anything? I see things that say to store poo poo because I can use it for crafting maybe later, but is anything okay to sell?

give rotten fish away when you send pawns back


its the best way to make friends you see

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



I rarely get anything useful back when people use my pawn, and I don't really expect or need it. Best reward is just showing other people's pawns new tricks and quests

timn
Mar 16, 2010

The Lone Badger posted:

The Longbow is significantly less mobile though. If the bow is an assault rifle, the longbow is a heavy machinegun.

Thinking about my play style with Ranger this is actually a pretty apt description. Once your max stamina is decently high you spend a lot of time walking up on groups while mowing them down with an unending hail of arrows.

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat

big nipples big life posted:

I had it in my bookmarks and when it appeared at the top with a post I was like :eyepop:

I have this thread bookmarked because I swear I'm going to restart and not get locked out of those early quests that made me put the game down...last year? Two years ago?

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

Just follow that guide on the wiki, even doing every quest you can plow through the entire game in a few hours.

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat
I've had the wiki page for "which quests can I lock myself out of" open for almost that whole time! Just haven't mustered up the drive to actually do the faux NG+ with choosing Hard Mode and switching back, heh.

Also some minor screen-tearing(?) that I don't know how to fix because I'm not a power PC gamer.

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

turn on vsync

timn
Mar 16, 2010
Another neat tidbit in case people didn't know is that you can also do the prologue in hard mode. Just quit at the very start and switch to hard mode normally and it will load you into the autosave it created at the beginning.

Just watch out though cause the chimera hits like truck and you're stuck with the prologue character + pawns. Practice your timed blocks with the shield and know that dying early kicks you straight into the game proper without a chance to retry.

Inflammatory
Apr 22, 2014
got a craving to play this again so i got it on switch a few days ago. pawn's on the doc.

god i love this loving game.

Sylphosaurus
Sep 6, 2007
It´s a goddamn crime that Capcom never seems to get a sequel in the works.

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

I think Itsuno's secret project after DMC5 is going to be the sequel. Especially with the anime coming out.

Sylphosaurus
Sep 6, 2007

big nipples big life posted:

I think Itsuno's secret project after DMC5 is going to be the sequel. Especially with the anime coming out.
Oh gods, I sure hope that the anime doesn´t use the Dragon´s Dogma manga as basis.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Sylphosaurus posted:

Oh gods, I sure hope that the anime doesn´t use the Dragon´s Dogma manga as basis.
Due to a mixup, it will be based on the manga "Dragon's Dog"

K8.0
Feb 26, 2004

Her Majesty's 56th Regiment of Foot
It's actually Elder Scrolls 6 : Dagon's Dogma.

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galagazombie
Oct 31, 2011

A silly little mouse!

K8.0 posted:

Also the augments you can gain from other classes are incredibly powerful. It's a good idea to play every vocation to max rank to get a good feeling for what they all can do and unlock all the augments.

This is basically required if you play Magik Archer (the best class) because despite having an amazing playstyle, it's augments suuuck. They seriously don't synergize or d anything useful. "Make your map fill in a millimeter further" really?

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